networking society

leeroybrown

Well, I suppose if the people in Carlow feel that the best way to get a proper NetSoc is to set up a seperate Society then that's probably the way to go.

I get this impression that some people think that a NetSoc should have full acces to a lab. Really, to begin with all you need is some interested people to get it rolling and a well looked after server.

The other reason for having a seperate Netsoc that I can see would be the possibility of getting reasonably strong departmental support for a Netsoc.

Ivan

Originally posted by leeroybrown
Well, I suppose if the people in Carlow feel that the best way to get a proper NetSoc is to set up a seperate Society then that's probably the way to go.

I get this impression that some people think that a NetSoc should have full acces to a lab. Really, to begin with all you need is some interested people to get it rolling and a well looked after server.

The other reason for having a seperate Netsoc that I can see would be the possibility of getting reasonably strong departmental support for a Netsoc.

If all thats needed is a few interested people then your probably better off trying to set it up with compsoc. You have interested people to get it rolling and we're due some more funding next year with which we were supposed to get a game or memory card for the PS2 but if there is the demand then we'll try get a box set up at some location.

Snowball

Originally posted by loismustdie
snowball, if you want to do something other than games why don't you set up your own society and stop criticising the one that ciaran set up and that you've been a part of all year

I'm not criticising just stating the reality of it. its not criticising. Also as much as Ciaran has done for CompSoc he did not set it up. its been around for years.

Gerry

Reading the other thread about "the future of compsoc", it seems another main use for compsoc is warez. Well, its completely idiotic to expect computer services to help you out, if you intend on using their resources for warezing, as part of a college society. If you are setting up this netsoc, you need to make it clear that the server will not be used for storing warez on, that you will not allow people to put it on their webpage, etc.

I think you should setup a netsoc as a separate society, and break completely with the warez, and almost completely with the games. For games, you could organise byopc lans, or lans in netcafes or something. It is very important to keep games to a small part of your society though. You need to think about a reasonably broad membership, not of all of whom are into games.

While our society in maynooth was off the network ( for about a year and a half ), one of the only things we did was organise lans. Now while some of these were good fun, there were **** all people there normally, and it was always the same old people. I made the point several times that there was no point in having the lans under the banner of the networking society, since it was doing the society no good whatsoever, ordinary members weren't interested in going, and if they did go, they were pretty much ignored.

You need to start looking now for people who are interested in computers, in learning more about operating systems, programming, and helping other people. Your society needs to be a helpful environment, where people can login, learn and get help if they need it. You need to organise interesting tutorials and talks, and promote the hell out of the whole enterprise. Get some non-nerds on boards, sell it to the non-nerds also.

Snowball

Originally posted by Gerry
Reading the other thread about "the future of compsoc", it seems another main use for compsoc is warez. Well, its completely idiotic to expect computer services to help you out

I think ur right but also the fact that CompSoc is all about games at the mo. thats also a big problem probably

Originally posted by Gerry
I think you should setup a netsoc as a separate society, and break completely with the warez, and almost completely with the games.

I think completly from games. I recon (personaly) no games in the society room at all.

Originally posted by Gerry
You need to start looking now for people who are interested in computers, in learning more about operating systems, programming, and helping other people. Your society needs to be a helpful environment, where people can login, learn and get help if they need it. You need to organise interesting tutorials and talks, and promote the hell out of the whole enterprise. Get some non-nerds on boards, sell it to the non-nerds also.

Off the top of my head I can think of 10 ppl that would be faithfull members and there is 2 networking courses so... there would be a nice membership. Also other computer courses would probably have a mild interest. The computer app course might be interested.
Lulu?? Gogo?? what do u 2 think? would ur course be interested??

Rew

Originally posted by Gerry
Heres some links to irish netsocs:

http://minds.may.ie
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie
http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie
http://www.skynet.ie
http://netsoc.ucd.ie
http://netsoc.tcd.ie

Eh dont forget us in WIT...

http://snet.wit.ie

We have run off a very low spec machine for a while now with no problems (bit slow at times) so i wouldn't get too hung up on hardware you can work on that once you have a base.

We run OpenBSD. Theses daya we have several machines (including an E450) membership was slow for a while but recently we have been in demand (esp for 4th year projects)

ratman

Originally posted by loismustdie
snowball, if you want to do something other than games why don't you set up your own society and stop criticising the one that ciaran set up and that you've been a part of all year

don't know how i never copped this until now hahahaha you ****ing dumbass

loismustdie

as you know i never listen to anything that comes out of his mouth because whether or not it's over boards it's spam spam spam spam spam so i just posted back for the sake of it ratman

ratman

you'd hear me if i was saying " i found 4 bars"

loismustdie

did you read my post?
did you think about your answer?
do you know what you're talking about?
did you look up whether or not i'd hear you or not?

some people are just unbearable to listen to, others aren't

Headcase

Rat i think every1 would of heard you if u found 4bars.
but we can't talk about that.
As for the NetSoc, its not a matter of joining or not joining it to CompSoc, they will be seperate, there will be a demand, esp from networking students.
and doubtfull that any of us will have a say in it.