DARTH MAUL v DARTH VADER

The Reaper · 17-02-2003 11:53am #1

WHO WUD WIN A FIGHT BETWEEN THESE 2!
id say Darth vader, even though darth maul is fast Darth vader has a stronger force!

kingconor · 19-02-2003 10:38am

Vader could choke him from across the room!!! However, Maul is not without his "charm", i mean he has a double sided light sabre!!
Close, but vader to edge it!

Zaphod B · 23-02-2003 7:03pm

WAHT

No contest. Maul wouldn't have a chance. Vader is just cool, he's just... Vader! Vader tbh

The Reaper · 24-02-2003 11:52am

darth maul has got a class look maybe his beauty over darth vader could win it!!!:D

lol

Tusky · 01-03-2003 3:45pm

id go for Maul -hes young fast strong etc ... and looks cool

i mean Luke who was pretty much a newbie with the light sabre beat him

(not a newbie but hadnt been in the buisness that long ) !

King of Arrakis · 14-03-2003 10:12pm

Vader would easily win! the man is THE MOST FEARED JEDI KILLER OF ALL TIME!!!

kingconor · 15-03-2003 1:13am

Maul wouldnt win, we are forgettin, he was only an apprentice! Still a little boy really!

Dooom · 21-03-2003 3:30am

aw cmon!!! vader would whoop mauls ass from here to kashyyk. he's the original and best bad-ass umm bad jedi.

-No contest vader

RexLupus · 23-03-2003 3:33am

Vader was an apprentice aswell, he was apprenticed to the emperor.

But still, you dont see maul being able to use choking and stuff like vader. Vader would woop him.

][cEMAN** · 24-03-2003 10:47am

But then you also didn't see Vader using lightning like Dooku.

To be honest do you really think in the middle of a saber battle, stopping and holding your hand up to choke 1 person is a good idea when there is another one attacking you as well?

Think about it as well. For the age and the training he had, Anakin faught Dooku and lost. Got his ass kicked. So did Obi wan.

Obi wan killed Maul even though it was still 2 on 1 for most of that battle.

Vader only killed Obi cause he let him.

So add Dooku up there as a third option.....see how many votes he'd get!

The Reaper · 01-04-2003 11:11am

Originally posted by ][cEMAN**

Vader only killed Obi cause he let him.

that doesnt mean that obi would of won!
infact im sure Vader would of won!

jonno · 01-04-2003 11:31am

Vadar - hands down

][cEMAN** · 02-04-2003 5:47pm

If Obi had killed Vader then the emperor would have been forced to look for another sith to train.

As it was Obi let himself get killed so that Luke could continue his training with Yoda but find out through time that Vader was his father and mainly use Vader as an example of what not to become. If he had beaten Vader then i'd say Luke wouldn't have had any kind of example of what not to become and would then have turned to the dark side.

Think about it - it was only after he had his hand chopped off that luke remembered this in the final scenes of return of the jedi. When he thought of Vader he looked at his own hand and realised - I am becoming this man and that's bad. He resisted his hatred and in the end forgave and tried to save Vader.

It also gave Vader the opertunity to repent and come back to the good side of the force. If he had been struck down he would never have had that chance and he would have been lost forever.

Vader was powerful - but it takes more than power to be a jedi. Look at the size of yoda.....looks can be deceiving.

Sarky · 02-04-2003 6:00pm

Maul and Vader were both trained by the same man. Vader was also trained in the normal jedi school. More experience, see.

Maul screwed up his first mission and died.

Vader went on to hunt down and kill most of the Jedi (it never mentioned it, but at least some of them had to be in personal combat). Even Yoda hid from him.

Vader also ended up taking out the Emperor, the guy who showed him how to use his powers.

Vader would win.

GreenHell · 04-04-2003 12:18pm

Vader no contest.

Maul just looked angry and you don't need force powers to look angry. Oh ya and he could dance.

stira64 · 09-04-2003 8:20pm

yes, yes , all valid points.......
BUT YOU PEOPLE SERIOUSLY HAVE TO GET OUT MORE!
WHATS NEXT, CAPT PICARD VS CAPT KIRK???!!!
THERES A WHOLE WORLD OUT THERE, SO GO OUT INTO IT, YOU PIMPLY MISFITS!!!

NA-HOIN
KER-GLAIVIN!
GLAIVIN HAIVIN!!!!

Dooom · 09-04-2003 8:26pm

bets on how long stira'll be here before he's kicked/banned/banished to the nether realms?

stira64 · 10-04-2003 8:51pm

ahh now, calm down gandalf. i was only jokin. im quite fond of lord of the rings and the whole dice rolling scene. im actually a wizard level 12. in fact im playing dungeons and dragons right now, so if youll excuse theres a dwarf with the golden condom of antioch who is threatening to steal my elf princess away from me.

ettak that attick leis an stira!:

Pugsley · 22-04-2003 1:22am

Originally posted by Aragorn
bets on how long stira'll be here before he's kicked/banned/banished to the nether realms?

By the time you read this he will probably be banned.

stira64 · 22-04-2003 7:59pm

still here. ill be nice from now on

Drazhar · 26-04-2003 5:27pm

That fight took place in the latest Star Wars Tales comic. Vader won. Was very cool. Dark Side worshippers brought Maul back from the dead somehow before you all ask

[Iramus] · 22-05-2003 6:55pm

pffft, vader definately, Maul was a wimp

Scarinae · 27-05-2003 9:59pm

Even if you think of them solely in the way they were portrayed in the movies, Vader had far more presence. Darth Maul may have had a cool lightsaber and been quite fast, but Darth Vader always appeared to be more powerful, more intelligent, more threatening. It is no contest at all.

de5p0i1er · 17-06-2003 3:54am

Vader's the man, no contest.

Kalina · 30-07-2003 2:12pm

I'd have to say Vader, he's the ultimate evil!!

slave1 · 31-07-2003 12:41pm

Please,

This is not even close

Anakin/Vader is the chosen one who will bring the balance of life and death to the force, he is surrounded by a vergence in the force and to quote from AOTC will in time "stop people dying", remember OB1 in ANH "If YOU strike me down....."

he who cannot be sruck down will victor

all will be revealed in Ep 3

avatar · 19-08-2003 1:33pm

Yeah, while the loyalty to the helmeted one is very touching, it must be said that Maul is FAR faster.... I'm going with Maul on this one, if Obi-wan hadn't used that sucker-punch tactic....

Mick L · 19-08-2003 1:44pm

MAUL!!! No way, Vader would beat him hands down, I doubt he'd even need a lightsaber. I wouldn't call Vader an apprentice, he was apprenticed to the Emporer, but he was also apprenticed to Obi Wan. They were all apprentices at some stage. Maul on the other hand was a definite apprentice, a newbie. He was a newbie beaten by a newbie.

Now before you go shouting about Darth Vader being killed by a newbie answer this, was Vader killed by Luke or by the Emporer in the end?

IMO the Emporer. So Maul taken out by a newbie, Vader killed by the Emporer. VADER would kick Maul's butt any day

Kold · 28-08-2003 7:56pm

Erm, Anakin was compared to Master Yoda at swordplay. Yoda is LEET, Yoda wupped Dooku. Anakan also has more mididchloriants than Yoda. Lets face it, when it comes to the force, aint noone stronger than Vader.

Maul is a strong Sith but nowhere near the capabilities of Vader.

slave1 · 29-08-2003 3:39pm

Mick L

"was Vader killed by Luke or by the Emporer in the end?"

You're off the mark here, Vader was killed by Anakin, Anakin was then fatally wounded by the Emperor's fully charged force lightning.

Luke didn't kill anyone of importance, wuss

Mick L · 29-08-2003 3:45pm

Vader was killed by Anakin, Anakin was then fatally wounded by the Emperor's fully charged force lightning

Well if you take it that Anakin and Vader were two different people then you may have a point butI'd argue that they were the same person, just at different times of their/his life.

Anyway my point was that yes it took the Emporer to kill Vader/Anakin and not Luke.

btw if you read the novels there are plenty of instances of Luke killing a lot of mean folk, he's well able look after himself in the end.

AL][EN · 26-09-2003 12:27am

Oh vader would so kick his @ss the only reason why Vader wasnt really scary in the 3 star wars films is there werent very good speical effects im dying to see how they do vader in the suit in epp 3

anyway back on topic vader is stronger in the force and has move experience than maul my vote goes to Vader

spooiirt!! · 26-09-2003 11:09am

to be honest i thought vader was scary as hell. granted i was 6 when i first saw the films, but even aftér that i thought vader was scary. especially when he chokes his own subbordinates!!
that always freaked me out. haha

AL][EN · 26-09-2003 8:31pm

true spooiirt very true and there's always the heavy breathing too if some bloke walked up to me in a big black suit breathing heavily id be scared too

i suppose when i was a kid i found vader scary alright but now that im all grown up its more amusing than funny

The_Goose · 27-11-2003 4:35pm

Vader would whoop his ass, he s he s vader for gods sake the most evil jedi killing thing the universe has ever seen!

episode 3 should fantastic

Creamy Goodness · 27-11-2003 4:37pm

the 9 people who voted for maul should be turned into soup by being chopped up by a light sabre

Vader · 01-01-2004 11:30pm

Mick L your way wrong. Luke bested Vader, had him defeated and choose not to kill him.

Vader would have killed obiwan wether he let him or not.

As for Dooku that lightning shít wasnt worth a piddle'n'crap against yoda. Its just like mindtricks or choaking ppl.

Vader was more in touch with the force with yoda but an inferior swordsman (according to obi wan). Lighsaber duelling isnt just about the force.

Not everyone is an apprentice, the council trains ppl collectivly as well. Ye all seem to be confused between apprentice and padwan. Vader was the emperors apprentice but maul was still a padwan. The comparison can only really be made between the two while both are still padwans. While a padwan anikan does better against Dooku than obiwan(despit an initial setback), obiwan killed maul while he was technically still a padwan. Maul was useless.

Vader would win, he whipped out nearly all the Jedi order

bluedaemon · 07-01-2004 5:06pm

Maul got beaten by a padawan - he is nothing.

TheSonOfBattles · 10-01-2004 3:51am

Originally posted by slave1
Mick L

"was Vader killed by Luke or by the Emporer in the end?"

You're off the mark here, Vader was killed by Anakin, Anakin was then fatally wounded by the Emperor's fully charged force lightning.

Actually your both off the mark here. Vader was killed by the injuries sustained in his fight against Obi-Wan years ago(back in episode 3, whenever it's gonna be released). He was using the Dark Side to keep himself alive for those years, thus when he turned to the Light Side again, he died. The suit wasn't keeping him alive, it was just a crutch, by wearing the suit, he was able to concentrate his Dark Force powers on keeping the more serious injuries from killing him. IIf you watch the Episode 6, you'll notice Vaders never actually hurt by the emporer, or by Luke in any life threatening way. This confused me for years, until I learned the above.

As for who would have won, Vader, seen my 3 page explanation in the "Best Swordsman" thread to find out why. I can't be arsed explaining it again.

Originally posted by Slave1
Luke didn't kill anyone of importance, wuss

God you couldn't be more wrong. Mick L was right, Luke kills loads of important people in the Expanded Universe books and comics. Hell he even turns to the Dark Side in them. Better explanation in the "Best Swordsman" thread again tbh.

User45701 · 22-01-2004 2:58am

Vader, it has to be

Yoda or emperor?

Vader · 22-01-2004 1:03pm

Good Q. Id say yoda cause in episode 2 the lightening sht had no effect on him. Its hard though cause we never really see the emperor fight, Dooku seemed very surprised that the lightening thing had no effect on yoda

purplemonkey · 12-02-2004 10:05pm

Oh c'mon, there can't be any competition. Vader wins it by miles. Vader only died because of the Emporer's power, while Maul died at the hands of Obi-Wan. If a good jedi can beat a bad one, then how can the bad one really beat the best baddie of all Star Wars time? It's not possible.

Metaloverlord · 15-02-2004 6:18pm

VADER ALL THE WAY BEY-BA!!!!!!!!!

Creon · 20-03-2004 10:48pm

There's not much of a contest, it's got to be Vader.

More interestingly is the question that User45701 posed and for me Yoda's Gotta win, come on it's Yoda!!!

McClane · 15-04-2004 8:23pm

Theres absolutely no contest. Darth Vader would wipe the floor with him.

And Luke DIDN'T beat Vader. IMO Vader beat himself because he couldn't kill his own son. Vaders conscience beat him, not Luke.

joshcork · 21-04-2004 1:27pm

Anyway back on topic before a moderator gets here i'd say maul would win as vader did go round killing a load of jedi but he probly had a shot of stormtroopers lending a hand. Aswell he's gotten old and even with the force tricks maul would just be too fast and agile

Fuhrio · 25-04-2004 12:08am

Maul would get his ass kicked by vadar ay day, he wasnt nearly as powerful as vadar was, and he was far lamer, as was every aspect of the pantom menace to the other movies