RTE-Time Keeping/Channel content and Rte , Net2 , Tv3 , Fta?

Elmo

Ok i am just going to point out all the TV shows that TV3 make discluding News:-

Ireland AM * 5
The Weakest Link
Adgenda
The Week In Review (Not Sure if i should give them that as it is the news, but anyway)
Sports Tonight * 5
Links and Comentary to Soccer.

RTE make:-

Open House * 5
The Late Late Show
Fair City * 4
Bachlores Walk
No Tears
Our House
Beyond the Hall Door
WWTBAM?
Treasure Island
GAA Comentary, Cameras and Links
The Den
Custard's Last Stand Up
The View
FISH
Top 30 hits
The Jason Byrne Show
Xit Polls
Bull Island
Nationwide * 3
State Of the Nation
Prime Time *3
True Lives
WYB
The Cassidy's
Podge And Rodge
Questions and Answers
Telly Bingo
Garden Heaven
No Frontiers
Ireland Uncovered
House Hunters
Mono
Green And Red
Ear To The Ground
No Disco

TG4
Ros Na Run * 2
Sin e
Pop TV
Ceol Tire
Amu I....
Cleamhnas
Fir Na hEireann
Nuabhia Gaelach
Seidean Staire
RiRa
Agus alan rud eile

Do I need to go on, so which is better cheap imports on TV3 which makes them lots of money or orginal Irish Programming and cheap imports on RTE and TG4. So who is sitting on their asses now. TV3 need to do alot more producing and alot less buying.

Also the RTESO, COR NA OG, RTE string quartet, etc is proable the governments idea, RTE would let them go in a minute if it was up to them, can you amagine and company in their right mind wanting them, Maybe our friends in TV3 will take the over.

Well done Elmo,thats telling everybody!
(They cancelled Bull island by the way;) -big mistake)
RTÉ are a pub. ser. broadcaster, and they do the job well in my opinion.
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jez

Its not a good idea to praise an organisation too freely. Especially an average set up like RTE. People in the UK give out like hell about their services and we all bend over backwards to get decoders etc to view them.The criticism of the BBC has worked .Don't be too kind to RTE. I mean are we seriously saying that most of their output is great. Telly Bingo, Winning Streak now there's quality, I don't think. We need to pressurise not praise.

triple-play

So Elmo -that's what 100m euro to RTE gives me?
Why does RTE get money to produce Prime Time when TV3's Agenda doesn't get a cent?
Why does Radio One news get money when Newstalk doesn't?

And by the way, lots of those RTE programmes you mentioned are joint productions with independent producers -RTE can't claim all the 'credit'.

And I am sure if you gave TV3 100m euro every year they too would invest a lot more money in Irish programming. But since they don't get a single euro they have to fund everything out of advertising revenue. And of course, RTE as well as getting the licence fee also get to compete in the advertising market.

I believe in Public Service Broadcasting. RTE should receive funds form the licence fee but are you honestly saying that the current system of funding is 100% fair to TV3, Today FM and the local radio stations?

Elmo

Its not a good idea to praise an organisation too freely. Especially an average set up like RTE. People in the UK give out like hell about their services and we all bend over backwards to get decoders etc to view them.The criticism of the BBC has worked .Don't be too kind to RTE. I mean are we seriously saying that most of their output is great. Telly Bingo, Winning Streak now there's quality, I don't think. We need to pressurise not praise.

Okay i am not praising RTE what i am saying is that they produce alot of great programming you point out Winning Streak and Telly Bingo as bad shows out of how many, TV three have Ireland AM and The Weakest Link out of how many shows. What i am trying to say is that TV3 should not be praised for providing a service that was on RTE 2 years ago. Its not orginal stealing programmes from other stations. Yes most of RTE's output is good and TV3 have a very good show in Adgenda as does TG4 in many of its programmes it makes, Irish TV is underrate and TV3 should be just as critises as RTE and TG4.

Why does RTE get money to produce Prime Time when TV3's Agenda doesn't get a cent?

Adgenda goes out Once a week and also Not in a prime time slot as TV3 go for the 15-45 age group.

Why does Radio One news get money when Newstalk doesn't?

RTE News runs on both TV and Radio. They have to imploy news people for RTE Radio 1, 2fm, lyric fm, RnaG, N2 RTE1 and TG4. Its a reason.

And by the way, lots of those RTE programmes you mentioned are joint productions with independent producers -RTE can't claim all the 'credit'.

No true alot of them are Joint co-productions but were do you thing the independents get the money from trees or the 20,000,000 Euros that RTE invest in them.

And I am sure if you gave TV3 100m euro every year they too would invest a lot more money in Irish programming

TG4 get €6,000,000 worth of TV from RTE, €16,000,000 from the government and a tiny amount from Advertising Revenue. And yet TG4 provide a better service then TV3 that have Canwest and Granada as backers of their station plus all the advertisement revenue they have for Champions League and Corronation Street which all together is proable worth more then €23,000,000.

I believe in Public Service Broadcasting. RTE should receive funds form the licence fee but are you honestly saying that the current system of funding is 100% fair to TV3, Today FM and the local radio stations?

I dont think it is fair to private Radio stations a i feel that Radio Stations can just provide the service of Advertising Revenue, 2FM is not funded by the Lience Fee it gets all its funding from advertising Revenue alone, however Lyric and RnaG could not.

If TV3 want to get on RTE's back about its funding it should start to make Irish TV programmes for Prime Time TV and not just show everything that is shown on ITV at the same time.

Elmo

TV3 should note that Ireland is not a british region, also that morning TV is a waste of time, money and efford.

RTE should note that it was a big mistake to buy EastEnders and not invest money into shows like Bull Island and Glenroe.

TG4 should note that they have done very well for themselves without major investment from anyone.

Irish viewers have to realise that TV3 wont provide GAA coverage as it is too expencive, wont provide Drama as it is too expencive, wont be happy until it is making lots of money without the hassel of Irish Programming, and they will only produce the require amount. RTE only provide 6mins of advertising on TV and Radio, the independents provide 9 mins of advertising. TG4 is underrate as a television channel.

RTE and TV3 have to look at what the viewer wants not what they want.

icdg

Originally posted by triple-play
Everytime you pay your licence fee you are helping to put TV3, Today FM and all the local radio stations out of business.
RTE gets all the licence fee but they also get to tap the advertising market. They should not have it both ways.
Why is RTE's News public service broadcasting and TV3's isn't?

RTE provide a news service of hourly bulittens across four radio stations, five hours of in depth news bulittens on Radio 1, two hours of news on RTE One a day, Prime Time an hour a week, News 2, Nuacht TG4...RTE News Online

And to this what do TV3 match? Fifteen minutes of news at 5:30 (the second half is all entertainment, sport, and weather), the same at 6:30pm and twenty-odd at 11pm. TV3 provide no peak time news bulitten. In short, they do the minimum for their contract and no more. Agenda may be good, but its buried in a Sunday lunchtime slot, and would probably never have survived had it not been for the demise of 20/20. It also goes off air for the summer.

There is no comparsion between the comprehensive news service provided by RTE and the bare-minimum provided by TV3.

The same incidently goes for Dublin ILR. Remember these are the people who put their "current affairs" (aka shock radio in their case) programmes on at 2am originally because they thought there was no audience. They only do news because the BCI requires it as a condition of their contract. Newstalk 106 obviously is the exception but it took thirteen years of the current regime to materialise.

Why is 2FM public service broadcasting and Newstalk 106 isn't?
The licence fee should go into a central fund where programme makers (including those in RTE, TV3 and indies) can apply for funding based on the merits of their concept. RTE should be trimmed back to pure public service broadcasting with an emphasis on Irish made programming -with no advertising.

They should forget about doing dodgy digital channels and focus on getting the quality of RTE1 and Net2 to the level it should be at.

Pure public service broadcasting? Like the Australian and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporations, perhaps? News, childrens output, and current affairs. Then there would be no Irish drama, no Irish music, nothing as Gaelige.

Remember TV3 is not an Irish broadcaster, it is a Canadian-British broadcaster.

Sure why bother with having an Irish broadcaster in the first place. Maybe we are just a region of England???????????