Dance Music Sucks Ass!!!

Fat Sunny

It's Terrible!! How the **** did it get its own forum??!?! All it is, is a few jack asses who push a few buttins and let their computers conjur up some mindless thudding sound that is custom built for 'E' heads!!

Seriously, This forum should be abolished!

Lenny

Ok, I get your point, you obivously don't like dance music, but are you blaming the music industy for people taking 'yokes' or vice versa?

Its not crap, there is a serious ammount of money to be made in the electronic music industy, it takes a lot of skill and many years of training.
Just wondering what type of music do you like?
I'll also leave the topic open in case others want to discuss it..

seamus

I hate dance music too, but **** it, some people like it, so leave them at it. This forum is here, it's not bothering you, just ignore it. I do

OJ - 'years of training'?? Rofl.

Fat Sunny - I know plenty of metallers that pop yokes and go to metal bars, so.......

Fat Sunny

Ok, I get your point, you obivously don't like dance music,

No u don't. You are right, i don't like dance music, i despise it infact but my point is, is that it doesn't deserve its own forum and it is simplistic and easily manufactured music.

but are you blaming the music industy for people taking 'yokes' or vice versa?

Yes, I am. No dance music would mean less 'e' users.

Its not crap, there is a serious ammount of money to be made in the electronic music industy,

Theres serious money made in drug trafficing. Should it have its own forum?

it takes a lot of skill and many years of training.

"ok listen up, u push this button." How exactly can u stretch that over years?

Just wondering what type of music do you like?

Mostly rock, punk or irish ballads.

Lenny

I don't know were you're getting the idea of "pushing one button to be a Dj" sort of thing,
DJ's don't use things like AtomixMP3,They may use computers from time to time, to add in beats and remix the song, but its not a one button thing.. hence, thats why you don't have lots and lots and lots (well maybe yea do, but I'm talking figures of millions) of brillant Dj's

seamus

It looks like this may be needed soon:


Sunny, you're doing your best to start a flame war with OJ aren't ya??

Lenny

Was thinking that too seamus,
He doesn't like Dance music, hes entitled to make his sa.. but by the way he is going on by mega quoting, lol
What more can I do but be tempted to close this topic

Fat Sunny

I don't know were you're getting the idea of "pushing one button to be a Dj" sort of thing,

Just listen to the songs ffs, they are repetative, boring and if they did require any more than one button being pushed its a waste of kinetic energy.

DJ's don't use things like AtomixMP3,They may use computers from time to time, to add in beats and remix the song, but its not a one button thing.. hence, thats why you don't have lots and lots and lots

Remix? Cop on they just turn the RPM's on their record players up to 45 for them. So they need one button and a knob to change the rpm.

(well maybe yea do, but I'm talking figures of millions) of brillant Dj's

Brilliant DJ's? And how are they decided? By the way they scratch their ass after putting their records on? By the way they address the crowd in that god awful generic DJ "all royt its toym to gesh on the florr"

Gimme a break!

Lenny

Stop with all the quoting, I'm not even going to bother to quote you and have an answer up for them :rolleyes:

Mercury_Tilt

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Karl Hungus

*In voice of Tim the conjurer from Monty Python: "I WARNED YOU!"



Only a matter of time before this kind of thing comes along.
But it's actualy quite a good call on OJ's part to leave this thread open.
It's a very good topic for discussion.


Anyway...
"Fat Sunny"?
You say that it's all simply, and just press of the button?

Well, ever seen who drums with Basement Jaxx live?
No?
It's Dave Herschheimer from Cradle Of Filth/Infestation/Obsidian.
Going to tell me he's a crap drummer now?

You know a lot of those bands actualy use REAL instruments.
Take Moby for example.
All his stuff is created by 'real' means.
So is any Depeche Mode, KMFDM, Skinny Puppy and so on...

I'm getting the vibe that you're only thinking of the usual "Untz Untz Untz" tripe, yes?

There's much, much more than that irritant chart music ****.
I personaly doubt you'll find that many people here would actualy listen to that.
Which is also a good idea why they changed the name of the board to Dance/Electronic.


Hope this helps the subject a little.

Anima

pld Angelwhore

Mr .Bungle

I'm not a fan of the dance music scene either but i will admit there are some talented artists Moby being one of em, but i'm afraid the **** far outweighs talented dance music. Remember Manic 2000? Should have been called mangey knack

The Dubliner

if you dont like dance why bother with it??!!!
you dont like it so stay away from it.

and dont class people who are into electonic music as 'E' heads!!
most of the people who are into this music (me included) arent into any drugs or ****!!

The Dubliner

if you dont like dance why bother with it??!!!
you dont like it so stay away from it.

and dont class people who are into electonic music as 'E' heads!!
most of the people who are into this music (me included) arent into any drugs or ****!!

we could say the same about rock and associate the people that listen to it as goths or maybe sadist some of the rock out now is alot more head recking than any dance out!!






:mad: :mad:

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by The Dubliner
we could say the same about rock and associate the people that listen to it as goths

'Scuse me!?

The Dubliner

i meant no disrespect or anything its just you could.
some rockers do dress like goths.

and thats the same with people into electronic music, people class us as 'E' heads etc! MOST OF US ARENT!!!!!
its only an small amount that are into that ****

Asok

Personally I like most dance and will gladly admit that there is an awful alot of tack in circulation however there are alot of good dance artists.I take exception that dance music is only there for people to buy drugs and use them ok there is alot of drugs in use but isnt that an upward social trend as well?,i`m sure that the heavy metal or rap scenes are not exactly drug free?.

Anyways thats my two cent

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by The Dubliner
i meant no disrespect or anything its just you could.
some rockers do dress like goths.

and thats the same with people into electronic music, people class us as 'E' heads etc! MOST OF US ARENT!!!!!
its only an small amount that are into that ****

Again...

'Scuse me!?


What the hell's wrong with being Goth?

The Dubliner

there's nothing wrong with them!!!!
and eh i never said there was anything wrong with them!!!!

stereo_steve

It really irritates me to hear people slagging dance music. I personally love it. Its not just a person flicking a few switches to create a song. You have to be very talented to produce a quality tune. You obviously don't know very much about the whole dance scene and should stay away from it.

I hate rock music. I think they all sound the same an electric guitar and some drums drowning out a singer. All the same. So you know what I do? I stay well away from the phantom board.

Fat Sunny why don't you piss off. No one that comes to this board wants to hear from you. As for people taking E tablets, I've been offered them all over the place in town. Its a problem with the young scene in Ireland not the dance scene! Grow up

Karl Hungus

You're saying it's the Rock equivelant of being an E-head!?!

Ruu_Old

Drugs started off in the rock or roll era anyway lets keep a cool head ppl

saik

that the dubliner is saying, if you make generalisations about electronic music fans, it is the same as making generalisations about rock music fans!!!!11111111111111111.

Lenny

I'm still intrested in what music Sunny is into...

Asok

Originally posted by OJ
I'm still intrested in what music Sunny is into...

perhaps its richie kavanagh :P:p

Fat Sunny

Try adding "in my opinion".

In my opinion, the dreadfulness of dance music IS fact.

I'm getting the vibe that you're only thinking of the usual "Untz Untz Untz" tripe, yes?

That is the target area of my hatred, yes.

but i will admit there are some talented artists Moby being one of em

Iwould not classify Moby as being strictly dance.

and dont class people who are into electonic music as 'E' heads!!

Sorry, you are right. It shouldn't just be 'E' heads. I forgot, speed, gear, ice and acid heads.

we could say the same about rock and associate the people that listen to it as goths or maybe sadist some of the rock out now is alot more head recking than any dance out!!

I would not try comparing dance to rock. If you look at any of the quality rock bands who have been around for years, had countless albums to their names along with world tours and who's members have more talent in their pubic hair than any of these "disc jockeys" who stick on a record and scratch their ass while shouting "oggy oggy oggy.... " into a mic.

I take exception that dance music is only there for people to buy drugs and use them ok there is alot of drugs in use but isnt that an upward social trend as well?,i`m sure that the heavy metal or rap scenes are not exactly drug free?.

They are not drug free, i'll giove you that but the music was not spawned from the effects of the drugs.

It really irritates me to hear people slagging dance music.

Dance music really irritates me.

Its not just a person flicking a few switches to create a song.

I suppose they have to plug in the gear aswell.

You have to be very talented to produce a quality tune. You obviously don't know very much about the whole dance scene and should stay away from it.

Talent can be possessed in many obscure forms but putting a needle on a record?? I do know a fair bit about the dance scene to come to the assumption of how mind numbingly repetitive and unimaginative it is.

I hate rock music. I think they all sound the same an electric guitar and some drums drowning out a singer. All the same.

Gimme a break. Rock music being all the same ?!?!? And i suppose dance is an endless pick n mix of musical variety eh?

So you know what I do? I stay well away from the phantom board. Fat Sunny why don't you piss off. No one that comes to this board wants to hear from you.

This forum was created to discuss dance music and i am doing just that. I am just as entitled to my opinion as anyone else. Just a word of advice. To use the term "no-one" is stating in the favour of the majority which should not be done with out facts and statistics to back up.

Grow up

Oh yes. I'll go and grow up eh? Maybe my musical tastebuds will mature to a state where "thud thud thud thud thud thud thud" is an appealing tune?

Drugs started off in the rock or roll era

But the music can still be enjoyed soberly which is more than i can say for dance music.

Ruu_Old

i'll give ya credit where its due , uve got valid responses for everything

Giblet

I have to agree with sunny on some things. Dance music is easier to create than people believe, and there should be no illusions about that. I do appreciate some Djs than can come up with a good beat, not standard 4/4 crap, something that has some thought put into it. But I'm afraid this quality is far outweighed by rubbish "untz" music. And one thing I can't understand is why do people listen to the crap stuff on headphones. It's not like theres much to dissect from most of the songs I overhear. I'd hate to have to listen to the same repeatitive crap for 20 mins, especially when it's full volume in my ear on a bus! Some DJs have no imagination, but credit to them as they probably get a lot of money for it.

Fat Sunny

Originally posted by OJ
I'm still intrested in what music Sunny is into...

erm... posted a while ago....

Mostly rock, punk or irish ballads.

Harmo

Sunny we can see wat kinda person u are from this picture of u a something I shouldn't have said so would you kindly leave the board and get a life.......



P.S Stop Quoting ASSWIPE

Typedef

Originally posted by Fat Sunny
Dance Music Sucks Ass!!!

Obviously this is the sort of thing only the most demented rockers who wish it was still the 70's would say.

You know the sort, who still have thier Iron Maiden haircuts... long hair, short fringe, smell of cheap beer and vomit can preform 21 hammeron pulloffs in one second... but couldn't tell you the first thing about the mixolydian scale?

A plage on their house.

Realise that rock music is so old now that it is drawing a pension and get over it......................

Karl Hungus

Not gonna ****ing bother quoting the whole thing here, definetly NOT worth it.

Originally posted by Fat Sunny
Iwould not classify Moby as being strictly dance.

No, Moby wouldn't be dance as such, but his style is "Electronic" yes?
And since this is a Dance/Electronic board.
So therefor, it's a good arguement, and it wouldn't matter if you don't class him as a dance artist.

Originally posted by Fat Sunny

Talent can be possessed in many obscure forms but putting a needle on a record?? I do know a fair bit about the dance scene to come to the assumption of how mind numbingly repetitive and unimaginative it is.

Like I said in my first post on this subject (But what you've seemed to have ignored), that there's many artists out there using proper live instruments, bass, keyboards, drums, strings and all that.

Originally posted by Fat Sunny
Oh yes. I'll go and grow up eh? Maybe my musical tastebuds will mature to a state where "thud thud thud thud thud thud thud" is an appealing tune?

Well, you don't seem to get that everyone here isn't some tripped-out E-head listening to yer average chart topping "Phat Beat" that goes UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ!!
There's a lot more to it than the commercial junk you find in the charts, and played at your local ****e club.

Do me a favour, before you reply, ok?

Download the song: [/b]Assimilate (Chris Vrenna Remix)[/b] origianly by Skinny Puppy.

And then tell me if it sounds ANYTHING like that dumbassed chart DJ "Maniac 2000" bull**** you seem to have everyone here pinned with.

Originally posted by Fat Sunny
But the music can still be enjoyed soberly which is more than i can say for dance music.

*Cough* Stoner Rock? *Cough*


And BTW, you others here, don't bother replying if all you can do is insult Iron Maiden.
They were always cool, and always will be.
And the fact that the arguement would then just be a rather purile "Yeah, well yours sucks more than mine" "No, yours sucks more!" style arguement.
It's pointless.

stu_69

Originally posted by stereo_steve


I hate rock music. I think they all sound the same an electric guitar and some drums drowning out a singer. All the same. So you know what I do? I stay well away from the phantom board.

Good argument that you have won me over.

adeypius

to me "dance" or electronic music is closer to jazz, without the limitations to guitar, bass and drums. With any type of music there will be pap, but to those who just call all electronic music as the same, seem singleminded, living in a cul-de-sac of the music world. All modern artists draw influences from all different music styles and genres. Do rockers cringe when a rock band plays a ballad. Or Dance fans when a song is based around a guitar riff.

Karl Hungus

This is the kind of idiot crap that comes from posts like this:


A topic called: If sunny can slag Dance Muzik i can slag rock

Originally posted by Harmo
Rock Muzik is sad,

Sum guy with long hair screaming down a microphone wit a few other guys jumpin around wit behind him wit guitars in there hands come face it, its depressing :mad:

That cannot be classed as good muzik

I decided to post this here to prove a point.
And because that topic will be deleted in a bit, so a link would be useless.


Good reply though from Anotal:

Originally posted by atonal
Harmo - I read sunny's post (my first and probably last foray into the Dance forum) it is absolutely stupid but that in no reason to make an equally ill-infomed and narrowminded statement.

Also, this is a good idea not to descend this into a 8 year old kid's Slagging match.
Which is already starting to show on this thread with posts like Typedef's and Harmo's.

Let's not, ok lads?

Cake Fiend

Prime candidate for Idiotic Post of the Month.

First of all, please read the boards FAQ - it's common curtesy on these boards to place your posts in an articulate and informed manner, not in the "DANSHE MUSIC IS FOOKIN SHOIH" thug manner you favour. If a rock music board existed, anyone posting such moronic statemets would have disappeared pretty damn quick - I think it's a credit to Oj that he has the patience and preserve to leave your post unedited, flame-bait that it is.

Fat (greasy rocker) Sunny, have you ever tried creating an electronic tune? You seem to think it's a talentless trade - why aren't you out there making millions scamming the poor idiot e-head ravers with your button-pressing skills? Your idea that any sod with the intelligence to lay down a beat and put some whiney bleepy noises over the top can hit the big-time in the dance music field is as laughable as the phrase 'anyone can play guitar' when it comes to rock industry success. Of course anyone can make a dance tune, just as anyone can make a rock song. It's only those with talent, however, that get recognition for it.

It's also not clever to tar the entire range of electronically-created music with the same brush. 'Electronic music' encompasses many very different genres and hybrid-genres. Showing automatic hostility toward a track by the likes of Groove Armada, Massive Attack or Moby based on opinions formed about the likes of that Maniac 2000 muppet is a quick display of both a closed mind and an ill-informed opinion.



Just as a bit of flame-bait, what exactly is wrong with 'e-heads' anyway? In what way do they impede on your life?

blue moon fever

what a load of crap you fools write how can you make jugement,im not really a indie fan its for issue fuled students, but i wont say its all crap, there must be some decent stuff about ,but i wouldn't be bothered...( it dont float my boat)

havok*

*sigh*

Fat Sunny,
Most commercial "dance" is complete tripe, i'll give you that.

I listen to mainly electronic music because i find its a hell of a lot more creative. I dont see any expeirimental rock bands about?

If your talking about the cheapy "Untz Untz Untz" they mainly play in energy and the like i'd have to agree with you, i cant listen to it either.

I also listen to Rock, R&B, Classical, Indie and find the best electronic artists out @ the mo easily tops there stuff.

With the amount of class Electronic acts, Aphex Twin, Daft punk, Orbital etc i cant see how u can mount the argument that its all just "pressing a button"

Not all dace music is the same. Try educating your self b4 posting some igronant dribble :rolleyes:

azezil

i used listen to dance music, its gone too pop like, or commercial or something now-a-days... so now i listen to trance. (dance without the words, what little words there were )

Fat Sunny

Sunny we can see wat kinda person u are from this picture of u a something I shouldn't have said so would you kindly leave the board and get a life.......

Well Harmo, your English seems to be flawless. I can hardly make out what point you are trying to make. And i suppose that by posting a picture of some overweight person and claiming it's me, that i am to be in some way offended? You are really insulting yourself if you think that. I wonder what sort of person you are.

P.S Stop Quoting ASSWIPE

Oh and now the namecalling begins! "Teacher, teacher that boy called me a name" I'm glad to see your insulting methods are not just in your ability to "slam" someone with your artistic genious. Your verbrosity is outstanding! Fair play my son.

Obviously this is the sort of thing only the most demented rockers who wish it was still the 70's would say.

No, this was posted by the kind of person who possesses two ears that function properly.

Realise that rock music is so old now that it is drawing a pension and get over it......................

If it aint broke, don't fix it. The wheel was invented some time ago. Should we rid ourselves of it? Your logic insinuates that old = bad.

No, Moby wouldn't be dance as such, but his style is "Electronic" yes?

Yes it is. But i never commented on electronic music. Also, when i started this thread, there was no mention of electronic in its title.

Like I said in my first post on this subject (But what you've seemed to have ignored), that there's many artists out there using proper live instruments, bass, keyboards, drums, strings and all that.

Doesn't make them good though. I have two words for you : "THE" "CORRS"

Well, you don't seem to get that everyone here isn't some tripped-out E-head listening to yer average chart topping "Phat Beat" that goes UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ!!

Only the people that feel the need to conform to the "skang"

With any type of music there will be pap, but to those who just call all electronic music as the same, seem singleminded, living in a cul-de-sac of the music world.

Once again, i never mentioned electronic music.

First of all, please read the boards FAQ - it's common curtesy on these boards to place your posts in an articulate and informed manner, not in the "DANSHE MUSIC IS FOOKIN SHOIH"

I never onced used the words "DANSHE MUSIC IS FOOKIN SHOIH"

Fat (greasy rocker) Sunny

Once again the ability to sink to the level of childish insults amazes me.

why aren't you out there making millions scamming the poor idiot e-head ravers with your button-pressing skills?

Dance ejay was sold out last time i checked. Once it's back in stock I'll be topping the charts.

It's also not clever to tar the entire range of electronically-created music with the same brush. 'Electronic music' encompasses many very different genres and hybrid-genres. Showing automatic hostility toward a track by the likes of Groove Armada, Massive Attack or Moby based on opinions formed about the likes of that Maniac 2000 muppet is a quick display of both a closed mind and an ill-informed opinion.

Ok. I'll try and make this as crystal clear as possibe :
I NEVER ONCE MENTIONED ELECTRONIC MUSIC.

Just as a bit of flame-bait, what exactly is wrong with 'e-heads' anyway? In what way do they impede on your life?

Hold on a minute. Are you that uncivilised that you need me to explain to you whats bad about drugs??

FatB

Imo, I do dj, not only do i mix tunes, but i also produce sounds using my synthisiser. Sure...you can say that its all pressing one button and whatever but I would love to see you try to do what i do! I mean, can you even think how complicated something with over 90 buttons and 18 knobs can be? You have to have a really good ear to pick out where the realry hard part of any song is......its mainly in the end production!

And for reference sake's, I personnally have NEVER took any drugs (apart from tabacco and alcohol), can you say the same?

Karl Hungus

Ok, I'm not prepared to quote through all that junk.

Just one simple question.

WHO THE **** ARE YOU ARGUEING WITH!?!?!?

You're pretty clear to state that you're only dismissing the useless chart rubbish.
So who, in fact, are you preaching this to?

I can't vouch for everyone in this forum, but as I see it, the majority definetly DOESN'T listen to that crap.


But I will agree with you that quite a few here are just making childish insults.

Neil3030

Yeh. I agree with Angelwhore.(:eek:) Your just needlessly nit picking on everyone's comments in order to get yourself over but you are lowering our opinion of you with every letter you type.

We get it. You don't like dance music. The forum is here. DEAL WITH IT.

And for someone who hates dance music, you spend a lot of time in its forum.

Cake Fiend

Originally posted by Fat Sunny

I never onced used the words "DANSHE MUSIC IS FOOKIN SHOIH"

Anyone with a functional brain can see that wasn't a direct quote.

Once again the ability to sink to the level of childish insults amazes me.

This coming from someone who uses the phrase "Dance Music Sucks Ass!!!" looking for a mature argument? That's rich.

Hold on a minute. Are you that uncivilised that you need me to explain to you whats bad about drugs??

No, I asked how other people taking ecstasy affected you personally.

Dazzer

All this from someone with ten posts :rolleyes:
It would seem you just signed up to express how much you hate dance music ...

Rave on.

TwoShedsJackson

FatSunny, you hate Dance because it's repetitive yet you like Irish ballads? They're about as repetitive (and $hite) as it gets :rolleyes:

JustHalf

Mister Sunny, please stop.

You are being purposely argumentative, and the level of cognitive dissonance you have displayed is shocking.

You started off wrong, and you know it; and yet you won't STOP arguing from your original flawed base.

Stop this pseudo-intellectual crap. You're clearly either purposely being a muppet for your own amusement (in which case you're acting the retard) or you are a retard.

Also, all 3 of the Corrs are fantastic eye candy. This cannot be denied.

And
Mostly rock, punk or irish ballads.
Linkin Park ruleZ, eh? Or Sun41? Excellent.

MASTER BLASTER

Havok

I listen to mainly electronic music because i find its a hell of a lot more creative. I dont see any expeirimental rock bands about?

Try listening to spineshank they experiment with electronic dance beats and stuff like that

havok*

Originally posted by Fat Sunny

Once again, i never mentioned electronic music.

Dance music contains electonic music. And tbh alot of ppl (who dont listen to the stuff) dont differentiate between the two.
Try to be more precise, stating "Dance Music Sucks Ass!!!" dos'nt validate an agrument just a rant...

Originally posted by Fat Sunny

Hold on a minute. Are you that uncivilised that you need me to explain to you whats bad about drugs??

This is not a drug realted topic. And as Sico's arleady said I fail to see how clubbers who reguraly take pills has any effect on you? its there own lifes they can abuse it as the see fit.

Originally posted by AngelWhore

WHO THE **** ARE YOU ARGUEING WITH!?!?!?

You're pretty clear to state that you're only dismissing the useless chart rubbish.
So who, in fact, are you preaching this to?

I can't vouch for everyone in this forum, but as I see it, the majority definetly DOESN'T listen to that crap.

This pretty much sums all this up in a nutshell.

Dustaz

Lads, cop on. This is a particularly transparent troll.
Exhibit A:

Originally posted by Fat Sunny Dance Music Sucks Ass!!!
It's Terrible!! How the **** did it get its own forum??!?! All it is, is a few jack asses who push a few buttins and let their computers conjur up some mindless thudding sound that is custom built for 'E' heads!!

Note the low brow prose, bad spelling and excessive punctuation

And now Exhibit B:

Originally posted by Fat Sunny

Well Harmo, your English seems to be flawless. I can hardly make out what point you are trying to make. And i suppose that by posting a picture of some overweight person and claiming it's me, that i am to be in some way offended? You are really insulting yourself if you think that. I wonder what sort of person you are.

Is this a different person? nope. Hes trolling. He knows full well that drugs play a large part in all music, that there are good and bad exponents of every form of music and that dance music is just another branching off of Popular Music. Hes just got nothing better to do with his time