Bishop Comiskey should..

Neil3030

Does anyone know if RTE are still not allowed show The Life of Brian?

dahamsta

Originally posted by The Gopher
I actually feel a bit sorry for the bishop.As usual in Ireland somebody mistakenly yet again put the village idiot in a position of power.Sure he did wrong but that c.unt fortune was blackmailing him over his alcoholism.Comiskey is alot like Liam Lawlor-hes either a total idiot or just acts like one whenever hes in front of a camera for sympathy.

"Stupidity is the weakest of defenses."

"When you fall off the wall, there's only one thing you can be."

Who said that?

adam

Excelsior

I have been buried under rocks for the last few weeks. Can some kind soul explain what Comiskey did to cover up Fortune's actions?
I know about Fortune's crimes and I have heard about Comiskey's resignation but what of these conspiracies to protect Fortune? What happened there?

jd

Five impressive people say it's time to come out now
By Patsy McGarry, Religious Affairs Correspondent



Ernest Hemmingway described courage as "grace under pressure". That quality was much in evidence at yesterday's press conference by victims of clerical sex abuse in Ferns.

Mr Colm O'Gorman, Mr Donnacha McGloinn and Mr Pat Jackman, who were abused by Father Seán Fortune, along with Jim and Josie Gahan, whose daughter was abused by Father Jim Grennan at Monageer, were articulate, dignified, generous, even funny.

They were also spontaneous, honest, and forthcoming in a way the church authorities are not. They wanted no heads on a plate, did not seek and had never sought any resignations, and they were "not interested in attacking anybody", as Mr O'Gorman put it.

What they did want was "a full and frank inquiry" because "we can't heal the wound unless it (the abuse) is acknowledged".

Mr McGloinn called on all who had been abused, and relatives of those who may have taken their lives because of abuse, to "come out now".

He knew this would be very hard, especially on families, but people had to "come forward now". They could do so by contacting www.oneinfour.org - a new website they have set up.

He had only told his own family last Christmas about the rape by Father Fortune in 1988. That was after he agreed to take part in the BBC Suing The Pope programme. His family had been devastated, especially his mother, a devout Catholic.

It was only when they talked about their families that the men became emotional. Mr O'Gorman remembered his late father's "huge support" as "the big reason why I'm here today".

And Mr Jackman spoke of his love for the church, his local choir he sang in, and the "four wonderful, young, strong, dynamic priests" in his parish.

He had had to give up his bar job in Wexford town. It had become "untenable" as more and more people came to him, after the first screening of Suing the Pope, with tales of their own abuse. He has his own "demons" to deal with.

Nevertheless, yesterday it was not anger that was evident, just five very impressive people.

Biffa Bacon

Here's a thought:
I wouldn't be surprised if sexual abuse on the scale we have seen in Ireland, the US, Australia, Canada is going on also in other parts of the world like South America and Africa. Now that the Church has been forced to recognise that this sort of thing does happen, they really should be making a huge effort to make sure it is stamped out totally in the Church throughout the world. Of course this isn't going to happen, so who knows how many more kids will be needlessly abused throughout the world over how many years before they are forced to confront the problem again?

Victor

Originally posted by Xterminator
If the actions of Comesky or other were found to be reckess, and endangered others needlessy, then pehaps the hurch should look at its Canon Law, which has been percived by some as a shield for the Guilty, rather than a code of behaviour.

Well the offenders face the direct descendant of the Spanish Inquisition, is that enough?

Victor

Originally posted by Neil3030
Ive had it with The Cathoic Church. They rape kids, they lie, they cover up, they brainwash and they are above the ****ing law.

While I don't agree and indeed condemn the actions of a few hundred criminals, I don't think blaming a few million Catholics solves anything.

jd

Originally posted by Neil3030
Ive had it with The Cathoic Church. They rape kids, they lie, they cover up, they brainwash and they are above the ****ing law. **** them. They should lob that Comiskey prick into a cell with some dude twice his size and let him feel what it was like for those poor kids at the hands of that demon.

Please excuse my language but i'm too enraged to bother being tactful.

Im an agnostic but bear in mind this

"And Mr Jackman spoke of his love for the church, his local choir he sang in, and the "four wonderful, young, strong, dynamic priests" in his parish. "

I thought myself that Comiskey should resign,for one because it was quite obvious that his "flock" had no faith in him, but I am thinking again about it. He was obviously a weak man, to allow Fortune and other priests to push him around.

However he did do some good in Wexford, where he helped bridge the gap between communities that had existed in Fethard since the 1950's. Rev Ruddock (leader of the C of I community in Wexford) was crying as Comiskey announced his resignation.

Comiskey screwed up majorly, and in the best interests of the victims of Child Abuse in Wexford he resignation should be refused by the Vatican.

I went to St Peters College in Wexford as well, and my belief is that the Seminary attached to it should have been closed down years ago.
I think that when vocations started decreasing they laxed their controls-ie it became a numbers game to keep the seminary open.
The culture was appalling amongst the authourities-we all knew that certain priests were "bent-"but who were we going to tell.
One Priest (since convicted) started asking me about my physical development while I was trying to ask advise about a scientifc project I was pursuing.
I walked out -saying my mother was waiting in the car outside..
The college had two "Deans of Discipline".
One of whom was in the lay part of the College while the aforementioned "priest" was a teacher. My abiding memory of him is going out with the other DOD and beating my brother and a friend out of a bush with hurls for trying to mitch mass (the other DOD had loads of practice-(removed as could be libellous jd)-now hes a parish priest)"..
I could go on-
anyway
what needs to be examined
Wexford garda Records
Ferns Dicese Records
St Peters College Records (whole institution-both Seminary and Secondary School)
before they burn them