WINLinux 2000

kayos

ok I know this is against the whole point of linux but anyway Has anyone tried it yet. Seemingly its a version of liunux you launch from within windoze which just boots into linux it shares your existing HD (no dodgy repartioning) I just wondering what its like since its about 130MB which is a big thing over a 56k modem.

KaYoS

SantaHoe

Huh...dunno....
I tried Linux(2.5) before and it didn't have support for modems and I had to screw around with the Kernel just to get a soundcard working... Has it gotten any better yet?

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Karla

I recently upgraded from RH 5.2 to SuSE 6.2 and it's ****ing brilliant!

Everything I need is there, lots of editors for HTML and programming, The GIMP for graphics and MySQL for databases, Netscape, ICQ and Real Player too.

It's well worth forking out £31 for, you get 6 CD's packed with apps.

Peeople say the installation for SuSE is one of the hardest around, but I found it fairly straight forward. Just follow the manual.

Go for it.

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A buddy of mine d'loaded WinLinux and has yet to get it working. That was about two weeks ago.

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SantaHoe

Another issue I found disturbing was that of the file structure...
Say I wanted to access files on the CD Rom... I'd go to http://nosever.nowhere/dev/mscx
...Bloody confusing for us Win/Dos-heads.
I like the idea of a more stable and powerful OS, and I'd realy like to support Linux, but I recon I'll wait until a better interface comes out. (KDE tried but failed IMAG)

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Karla

It's way better now, seriously.

There are hundreds of really cool little apps for KDE, as well as the bigger ones like Office apps.

You should get a good book on Linux if you want to support it. I recommend O'Reillys' 'Running Linux' book. It's only about £20. The third edition is out now.

You don't have to be a guru or anything and you can get by with knowing only a few basic commands which aren't that different to DOS commands.

Why were you using the http server to get to the CD anyways?

SantaHoe

ROFL, I dunno what the hell I was doing!
All I know is that it was bloody scary!!

When I was instaling it, I selected the 'Home User' option... can't think of any reason why a home user would need a web server, but there you go...

As exiting as it is to learn all about a new OS, what I'd like is a Win98 clone running on the Linux core.
I'm not sure what the interface is like in the newer releases, but I think you'd see a lot more people converting from Win9x to Linux if their was a more win-like GUI.

BTW how easy is it to set up an internet connection in Linux? Is their any difficulty connecting Linux to a Windows NT server with PPP and all that? Eh?

SantaHoe

right, I'm downloading WinLinux2000 at the moment...(11%)...I reccon it'll be finished in a few days.

Karla

Hmmmm, I wouldn't personally recommend WinLinux after what happened to my buddy, (he still can't get it working) but it's up to you of course.

BTW. There's a Linux Day in UCC tomorrow, check out cork.linux.ie for info.

About the Internet connection? I've never done it, piece of sheeet Winmodem . I'm told it's not too difficult tho. ( Of course 'difficult' is used as a relative term )

anyhooo keep us informed as to how you get on with WinLinux.




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SantaHoe

Phew! Cork Uni is a little out of my way (Dublin).

I'm currently at 23%, sweet holy cr@p!



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Karla

Why is it saying I edited that message?
Weird....

Anyway, LAID was pretty cool. Corel were there with a sneak preview of their version of Linux and Red Hat donated 200 box sets of RH 6.0 which would have been great only I had to work this morning and I missed out

Lord Khan

winlinuts isn't bad once you over come the download (10 hrs ) but installation is so simple even the newest luser could install it all the setup features are wizards :-)
the only problem is that if you have every installed a pre dos 7 on a machine you'll know all the names become shortened

but wl doesn't actually shorten them it just displays them as shorter but weirdly if it's say a tar.gz once you uncompress it the dir is find ( even if it is a long name )

pretty easy to use two but you'll probaly need to install extra files anyway but if you have a lunix libary cd's hand you're fine

the biggest problem I had was just setting up my modem. still trying :-)

although I do know several people who have had problem with the graphic cards ( some support issues :-)

SantaHoe

((Sigh))
Yeah, tell me about it!
76% complete....

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SantaHoe

Alright, I've got it installed and it works... but it doesn't support my Voodoo3, it has detected my modem, but it sais that my modem is busy!(?)

I tried to setup my internet account, I can't find PPP, the closest thing I've got is PAP(?!)

Any ideas?

Lord Khan

Same problem :-) modem's there but nobody is answering :-)

SantaHoe

Busy doing what?
That's what I wanna' know!

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I'd use Linux more, if only I could see it in more that 16-colours, 640x480.
A bloody internet connection wouldn't be half bad either!
And as for my soundcard, don't get me started!

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Now I can see a lot of Linux-Lovers frowning @ this post, but its hard for Linux-newbies to get started with setting up all the hardware.
(Those "How To's" don't realy help much)

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Stephen

I downloaded WinLinux 2000 a while ago too. I had the same "busy modem" problems. Fortunately I was able to get my graphics card running fine in 800x600 16k colours. (cheap dodgy Cirrus Logic 5446 2mb). KDE seemed *very* slow though (and a bit clunky too... it looks like the ba$tard child of Win95/98 and MacOS). I never could get the modem to work in WinLinux, and have since uninstalled it... I'm downloading RedHat 6.1 now - 130mb to go...Fortunately, I have a second hard drive (2gb) which I'll install RedHat on (No idea how to do this yet - I'm a linux newbie )

- |IAR|Munch
- www.iar.netgames.org.uk

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Karla

Don't worry about installing on to a second hard drive, it's a cinch. I managed to do it and I didn't have a ****ing clue
Just remember to partition hdb1 not hda1

Canaboid

Winlinux is pretty cool. Installed on PC and laptop - No probs. Sound card/graphics card detected okay. Modem detected but busy........ Bah. Anyone any ideas ?

P.s. Download took 43 mins. Heh heh heh

SantaHoe

Ere Steve, let us know how you get on with Redhat.
If the modem problem is fixed, I might just download it...
Oooh, and check if it has Voodoo3 support.

(BTW, is it free to d/l?)

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Stephen

Yeah, RedHat is free to download (It's fu<king massive though - about 600 mb) I have no idea how to check what it supports - but I think I'm safe - I have bog standard equipment - Crappy 2mb cirrus logic graphics card + Voodoo2 8mb, original SoundBlaster 16 (It must be at least 5 years old), dodgy 24x CDROM. One thing I must know - does RedHat have any CD burning software installed? I'm waiting for my shiny new CDRW to arrive

- |IAR|Munch
- http://www.iar.netgames.org.uk

SantaHoe

Holy phuck!
What kind of connection do you have, that you can d/l that kinda' thing?

Stephen

I'm on a regular old 56k modem... on Esat NoLimits - It's been downloading all week - 70 mb to go...

- |IAR|Munch
- http://iarclan.cjb.net

SantaHoe

Oh, LOL!
I know that feeling...
Using 'GetRight' or 'GoZilla' or something?

I'd laugh if it didn't work after all this downloading! (- naw, probably wouldn't laugh -)

Stephen

Nah, I'm using BulletProof FTP - It can resume FTP downloads, and download entire directories - it would be a real pain in the ar$e to download a few thousand files through GetRight... Apparently, I have 25 days left to "evaluate" the program

- |IAR|Munch
- iarclan.cjb.net


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SantaHoe

Think you'll get it downloaded in time?

Stephen

Yeah, only a few megs left Should be done by tomorrow.

- |IAR|Munch
- www.iar.netgames.org.uk


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Stephen

Well, I got a reply from Winlinux tech support today, about the modem busy problem - They had attached a file to the email to replace one of the existing WinLinux files... I'm off to test it now...

::fingers crossed::

- |IAR|Munch
- http://iarclan.cjb.net

Canaboid

Any chance you could mail it to me stephen.

Cheers

Stephen

...Done...

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SantaHoe

Did it work?

Karla

WinLinux 2000 Final BETA is on the DVD issue of PC Format ATM. I just installed it and it's cack! Well I did only play with it for 10 mins but as far as I could make out there was no http server and **** all useful applications, oh and Netscape chucked out about 40 errors before it opened and then crashed.

Is deleting WinLinux just a matter of deleting C:\Linux?