Mordern Movies that will be classics in 60+ years

ccd

Meet the Perants WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED A COMIC CLASSIC. FACT. However ANCHORMAN will be the defining Comedy of the 00's. Gladiator walks all over Bravehart. I have already forgot about the Hurricane so lord only knows about a few years doen the line. But I'do agree with you about Zorro and Gattaca.

I also wanna add a few more titles

Oldboy

Fight Club

Downfall

missingtime

scouser.tommy wrote:

I believe that Gattaca will be something of a sci-fi classic.

Thats a good un alright.

Did someone mention Seven? Hmm What else...?

Road Trip I think will do better than Meet The Parents.
Anchorman had better become a classic.
Since there has been so many bad comic book movie adaptations and there will probably be more, the original Batman movie should stand out.

d-arke

ccd wrote:

Meet the Perants WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED A COMIC CLASSIC. FACT. However ANCHORMAN will be the defining Comedy of the 00's. Gladiator walks all over Bravehart. I have already forgot about the Hurricane so lord only knows about a few years doen the line.

I also wanna add a few more titles

Oldboy

Fight Club

Downfall

I've never even heard of Anchorman or Oldboy, though I'll admit my knowledge of film isnt great.

Downfall would be a good shout.

If I had to pick a modern film to be a classic in 60years time and it had to be a comedy, where better to look than Dumb and Dumber. But to be honest, I don't think many comedies will become classics.

d-arke

missingtime wrote:

Since there has been so many bad comic book movie adaptations and there will probably be more, the original Batman movie should stand out.

Good call!!!


As for Momento, can't really think why it wouldn't be a classic, still trying to decide whether it was a good film or not. It doesnt really get that much attention now so I don't think it would get sufficient coverage in the future to gain the recognition of being a classic. Could maybe become a classic simply because of the way its filmed.

Goodfellas??? I only say this cause I love the Joe Pesci line, "I'm funny how...."

Hugh Hefner

ccd wrote:

Oldboy

Fight Club

Downfall

Oldboy? Not in the West. A cult classic maybe.

Fight Club? I think so.

Downfall? Never. It's just not well known.

d-arke wrote:

Goodfellas??? I only say this cause I love the Joe Pesci line, "I'm funny how...."

Already a classic and rightly so.

d-arke

Hugh Hefner wrote:

Oldboy? Not in the West. A cult classic maybe.

Fight Club? I think so.

Downfall? Never. It's just not well known.

I'd agree with FightClub, its got a good chance of being a classic. But then see the definition below, would it be considered a universal favourite?

"Downfall? Its just not well known." Thats rubbish, its one of Michael Douglas' best films. Though in fairness it wont be well known with todays youth as it came out in the eighties but it is worth a shout.

Ps. Can I just ask what everyones definition of what a classic is??

I just came across this definition, "classic films are often distinguished or unique works of cinema that have transcended time and trends, with indefinable quality. Classic are often universal favourites that hold up after repeated rescreenings"

ccd

I was refering to Der Untergang [Downfall]. I think you might be refering to Falling Down, Sorry to be so anal but it was actually made in the 90's

lodgepole

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/

You're mixing up Downfall with Falling Down.

Karl Hungus

Hugh Hefner wrote:

Oldboy? Not in the West. A cult classic maybe.

Not in the West? What sort of talk is that? Are you trying to suggest that any Asian film would not be considered a classic in "The West"? Hmm... Seven Samurai? Yojimbo? Anything Kurosawa ever made? Hey, how about some Bruce Lee films?

d-arke

ccd wrote:

I was refering to Der Untergang [Downfall]. I think you might be refering to Falling Down, Sorry to be so anal but it was actually made in the 90's

Ah sorry for the mix up, my knowledge of films isnt the best. Falling Down was the one i was thinking of alright. So as for your shout on Downfall being a classic, I'll agree with you simply cause I was in the wrong and never heard of it.

Be as anal as you want.

Thanks Lodgepole as well.

D'Oh!!!!

Roar

"classic films are often distinguished or unique works of cinema that have transcended time and trends, with indefinable quality. Classic are often universal favourites that hold up after repeated rescreenings"

right thats anything with will ferrell so..

me thinks shawshank for sure anyway..

beauty and the beast too...

Plankmonkey

Erm I seriously doubt they'll be watching todays movies in 60+ years except to laugh at the special effects....and you only need to wait 6 years to do that!

Karl Hungus

Plankmonkey wrote:

Erm I seriously doubt they'll be watching todays movies in 60+ years except to laugh at the special effects....and you only need to wait 6 years to do that!

Assuming that all everybody watched was big Blockbusters with loads of SFX?

Or dare I suggest that someone out there would watch a movie without special effects? Yeah, some radical thinking there.

lodgepole

Plankmonkey wrote:

Erm I seriously doubt they'll be watching todays movies in 60+ years except to laugh at the special effects....and you only need to wait 6 years to do that!

We're still watching films made sixty years ago today. And considerably older.

Hugh Hefner

Plankmonkey wrote:

Erm I seriously doubt they'll be watching todays movies in 60+ years except to laugh at the special effects....and you only need to wait 6 years to do that!

Riiiiiiight, because we don't watch films that are 60+ years old today. :rolleyes:

Edit:

Lodgepole wrote:

We're still watching films made sixty years ago today. And considerably older.

Heh.

Karl Hungus

Getting back on topic, I think The Big Lebowski will be as legendary a comedy as Some Like It Hot.

Hugh Hefner

Karl Hungus wrote:

Not in the West? What sort of talk is that? Are you trying to suggest that any Asian film would not be considered a classic in "The West"? Hmm... Seven Samurai? Yojimbo? Anything Kurosawa ever made? Hey, how about some Bruce Lee films?

No, I'm not saying that any Asian film would not be considered a classic in the West. But Oldboy wouldn't be. It's a great film, don't get me wrong. Min-sik Choi acted so brilliantly. But most people have never heard of it. People know Seven Samurai, people know Enter The Dragon, people do not know Oldboy. Not enough people anyway. And Oldboy hasn't worked it's way into the public mind like, say, Darko has. It's a pity, but I just don't think it's going to become recognised on a wide enough basis.

On the bright side I could be wrong and it'll be the re-released hit of the sixties.


Not to be completely off topic...

I saw watching The Matrix last night and for the first time it didn't look modern to me. If I had been watching it for the first time, without any prior knowledge, I would have thought it was made in the 80s. The subtle green wash didn't help that either. That said, I think The Matrix will become a classic.

Tusky

Hugh Hefner wrote:

No, I'm not saying that any Asian film would not be considered a classic in the West. But Oldboy wouldn't be. It's a great film, don't get me wrong. Min-sik Choi acted so brilliantly. But most people have never heard of it. People know Seven Samurai, people know Enter The Dragon, people do not know Oldboy. Not enough people anyway. And Oldboy hasn't worked it's way into the public mind like, say, Darko has. It's a pity, but I just don't think it's going to become recognised on a wide enough basis.

On the bright side I could be wrong and it'll be the re-released hit of the sixties.


Not to be completely off topic...

I saw watching The Matrix last night and for the first time it didn't look modern to me. If I had been watching it for the first time, without any prior knowledge, I would have thought it was made in the 80s. The subtle green wash didn't help that either. That said, I think The Matrix will become a classic.

Often, things that arent wildly successful when they are first released become classics. Just because its not all that well known now doesnt mean it wont become a classic.

Karl Hungus

Hugh Hefner wrote:

No, I'm not saying that any Asian film would not be considered a classic in the West. But Oldboy wouldn't be. It's a great film, don't get me wrong. Min-sik Choi acted so brilliantly. But most people have never heard of it. People know Seven Samurai, people know Enter The Dragon, people do not know Oldboy. Not enough people anyway. And Oldboy hasn't worked it's way into the public mind like, say, Darko has. It's a pity, but I just don't think it's going to become recognised on a wide enough basis.

On the bright side I could be wrong and it'll be the re-released hit of the sixties.

Ok, so you're trying to suggest that a film must have mass-appeal from the moment it was released in order to be a classic? Sorry, but that's just wrong. Honestly, in it's time, The Seven Samurai was unheard of, and it only came into public knowledge via how many film-makers were influenced by it, and other Kurosawa films.

Hugh Hefner

It doesn't have to have mass appeal but that certainly helps. I just don't envision it gaining such appeal within the next 60 years. But like I said, I could be very wrong.

Tusky wrote:

Often, things that arent wildly successful when they are first released become classics. Just because its not all that well known now doesnt mean it wont become a classic.

I completely agree, and I hope great things do happen for this film because it's very deserving.



You're right, The Seven Samurai did become a classic but I think it's also fair to say that such a thing is rare enough. I mean for every The Seven Samurai there's probably 20 great films that never arrive to such esteem. Sad but true.

Tusky

Hugh Hefner wrote:

It doesn't have to have mass appeal but that certainly helps. I just don't envision it gaining such appeal within the next 60 years. But like I said, I could be very wrong.



I completely agree, and I hope great things do happen for this film because it's very deserving.



You're right, The Seven Samurai did become a classic but I think it's also fair to say that such a thing is rare enough. I mean for every Seven Samurai there's probably 20 great films that never arrive to such esteem. Sad but true.

I dunno....I think if its a really good movie and deserves peoples attention, overtime, it will get it. It may not be hugely well known now but I bet over time it will grow in popoularity. Most good films do.

Jimi-Spandex

I'm going to have to go for,

Donnie Darko
Big Lebowski
Old Boy
Sin City (For the visual style methinks)
City of God
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Amelie
Spirited Away
Memento

And just because people haven't heard about old boy doesn't mean it's not a classic. Every single one of my subtitle-phobic friends who I've forced to watch it have loved it.

It will be considered classic, given time.

And that ridiculous statement about not watching today's movies in 60yrs time because of special effects, wtf? Does the lack of flashy lights and realistic spaceships affect Casablanca, Citizen Kane or the maltese falcon?

lodgepole

Tusky wrote:

I dunno....I think if its a really good movie and deserves peoples attention, overtime, it will get it. It may not be hugely well known now but I bet over time it will grow in popoularity. Most good films do.

I think you'd be surprised at how many slip under the rader. Take the recently discussed Life & Death of Colonel Blimp, which was practically unheard of in Britain until recently. People had just forgotten about it...

Personally, while I loved Oldboy, I don't think it's particularly worthy of being called a "classic" in sixty years time. Very few of the films mentioned do.

I think Reservoir Dogs will be looked at for many years to come, while I think Pulp Fiction won't. Shawshank will too because it's just superb. I've never met a person who didn't like Shawshank.

Jimi-Spandex

Karl Hungus wrote:

Ok, so you're trying to suggest that a film must have mass-appeal from the moment it was released in order to be a classic? Sorry, but that's just wrong. Honestly, in it's time, The Seven Samurai was unheard of, and it only came into public knowledge via how many film-makers were influenced by it, and other Kurosawa films.

Well, in fairness Rashomon did win the Oscar for best foreign film in 1950, so it's not like he was completely obscure in his day. But in terms of commercial success and public recognition you are right.

missingtime

Just thought of another one there. Wonderland, i thought it was excellent. If ye haven't seen it its the real story that Boogie Nights is based on. Class soundtrack aswell.


The Motorcycle Diaries - too soon mabye. Its very good though.

ccd

Not to sure about THE BIG LABOWSKI. Personally I feel that O Brother Where art hou, has a lot more going in the classic stakes and is a much better film in every way.




Well Pete, I figured it should be the one with the capacity for abstract thought. But if that ain't the consensus view, then hell, let's put it to a vote.

StonedParadoX

requiem for a dream?
Blow?
Aliens?
trainspotting?

ccd

Requim for a dream was more style over substance. Leaving Las Vagas is a much better film about damaged people

The Troll

Endurance Man wrote:

Why Butterfly Affect , wasnt that great.
I would say Lord Of The Rings will be a classic watched for hundreds of years . Thats all i can think of.

Butterfly "Effect" is superior to the LOTR in every way.

The LOTR trilogy is the most overrated piece of garbage known to mankind. It'll go down in softcore gay porn classic guides. Certainly not a movie classic.