Who are the most arrogant drivers?

PaulieC

Just a bit of fun, but who are the most arrogant drivers ? I've never really noticed before (maybe I was too arrogant?), but in the last month or so, I've been using a moped to travel in and out of work and have tended to keep my eye on what other drivers are doing, for safety reasons.
I always thought it a terrible cliche, probably because I like them, but I think in general, drivers of 5-series BMWs are the most arrogant. I don't know if they bought the cars because they were arrogant, or are they arrogant because they have the cars, but from what I've seen over the last few weeks, they certainly have the lest driving manners of all drivers.
This is, of course, in general and I know they're not all like that.

Followed closely by E-Class Merc drivers

WhiteWashMan

cambo_gueno wrote:

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I always thought it a terrible cliche, probably because I like them, but I think in general, drivers of 5-series BMWs are the most arrogant. I don't know if they bought the cars because they were arrogant, or are they arrogant because they have the cars, but from what I've seen over the last few weeks, they certainly have the lest driving manners of all drivers.
This is, of course, in general and I know they're not all like that.

Followed closely by E-Class Merc drivers

thats funny, i was going to start the post with 'you know, most people would say merc or MWB drivers....

my old company car was a BMW 318 touring.
nice car.

as soon as i started driving i noticed that more people started giving me guff on the road.
i soon found out that its not actually that Beemer drivers are more arrogant, they are actually just crapper drivers

you know when they over take you on a windy road and scare the crap out of you. its not coz they know they have the power under the hood. they really are just crap drivers.
id put myself in that catagory too

of course, now that i own a sensible mondeo Si, i am obviously a more sensible driver

xzodia

Id have to say taxi drivers in general no matter what there driving they seem to think they owned the roads

unkel

cambo_gueno wrote:

drivers of 5-series BMWs are the most arrogant

Indeed, all BMW drivers really. They never ever indicate either

prospect

In no particular order:

1. 17-21 year old male drivers: - Look at me bud, oim a bleedin rapid driver oi am, much better dan dat Shoemakker bloke...

2. 28-32 year old female drivers, particularly professionals: - I'll just tear along here ignoring most of the rules of the road, like indicating. What do you mean I am wrong? My insurance is cheaper than yours so I am obviously a better driver...

3. Middle aged women, esp in 4wd vehicles: I will absoloutly not let you out in front of me, I am an independent woman and I don't have to be courteous to anyone.

4. Middle to Old aged men: Look how fast I can go, I am still young, I swear...

**Disclaimer - Please note I am not referring to ALL people who fall into the above catagories, just what I deem to be the vast proportion of them! **

PaulieC

just to clarify a bit...
I don't think this applies to all BMW drivers. 7-series drivers seem to be a bit more mature and 3-series aren't quite there yet.
Same applies to Mercs - S-class are fine and c-class are still jsut up-and-comers
Audi drivers seem to be OK

Kersh

I agree with prospect here.
I find most women drivers NEVER let you out in front of them. And I honestly reckon old men 65+ are just as bad.
As for particular makes of car - the BMW 5 series drivers are by far the worst, most arrogant drivers on the roads, and new shape 3 series drivers arent that far back.
The most annoying drivers are Starlet gt turbo, and Lancer 1.8 gsr drivers. I know your car has a turbo, ok, but its 1.5 litres and a turbo short to be annoying me on the road, ok.

eth0_

Taxi drivers are DEFINITELY the worst, most arrogant drivers out there. Just because they work 12 hour shifts it's no excuse for their blase attitude on the road, not indicating, hopping across lanes when it's not safe to do so, sitting in bus stops etc etc.

Then the middle aged (mostly) men driving BMW/Merc/Jag, they show no respect or courtesy to other drivers or pedestrians.

Boy racers generally just look stupid. I haven't had any run-ins with them in terms of being cut up or anything like that.

saobh_ie

I think prospect has things pinned down pretty good, its not about the type of car people drive it’s the type of people and while its true those groups do tend to buy the same type of car there are an awful lot of good drivers out there in every type of car.

(Except five series BMW’s of course because they have considerably better lawyers on retainer.)

Personally I hate older women who live in Malahide in s40 Volvos… they’re murders.

$lash

Merc drivers in their fifties tend to be the most arrogant in my non-stereotypical opinion

The Clown Man

prospect wrote:

In no particular order:

1. 17-21 year old male drivers: - Look at me bud, oim a bleedin rapid driver oi am, much better dan dat Shoemakker bloke...

2. 28-32 year old female drivers, particularly professionals: - I'll just tear along here ignoring most of the rules of the road, like indicating. What do you mean I am wrong? My insurance is cheaper than yours so I am obviously a better driver...

3. Middle aged women, esp in 4wd vehicles: I will absoloutly not let you out in front of me, I am an independent woman and I don't have to be courteous to anyone.

4. Middle to Old aged men: Look how fast I can go, I am still young, I swear...

**Disclaimer - Please note I am not referring to ALL people who fall into the above catagories, just what I deem to be the vast proportion of them! **

Something about a head and a nail ... too late to remember.

AlienGav

BLACK DRIVERS!

Just a gerenal observsation, I'm in no way being racist, but they're so bad it's not even funny.

And to a lesser extent, Taxi drivers.

20 Times 20 Times

I think that post will get you a ban ! if not a harsh warning , it is racist lets be honest , i think anyone that gets behind the wheel of a car is arrogant , you kinda have to be especially to drive in dublin.

Macy

saobh_ie wrote:

I think prospect has things pinned down pretty good, its not about the type of car people drive it’s the type of people and while its true those groups do tend to buy the same type of car there are an awful lot of good drivers out there in every type of car.

Don't really agree. I think the type of car people drive says a lot. e.g. Micra's and Volvo's for the "I'm in safe car, I can do what I want" whilst driving annoyingly a few mph below the speed limit, between gears. Merc's and Beemers for the "I'm so much better than you, I have a small dick, but look at my car" arrogant tossers.

In a totally no sterotypical way obviously, except for volvo drivers obviously -they're all crap.

dahamsta

unkel wrote:

Indeed, all BMW drivers really. They never ever indicate either

Absolutely unkel. One doesn't know why BMW's are fitted with indicators at all, haw haw.

whippet

with regards to the post about 'black' drivers, I must admit that I have come across a very high proportion of bad driving from this demographic. I don't know if it is to do with the standard of driving in their 'home' countries or that they learn to drive by 'trial and error' in Ireland because of the provisional licence system. AlienGav may have sounded racist in his manner of making a point but I would have to agree with the underlying opinion.

I find that they tend to have very bad lane disipline and are very prone to tailgating.

I believe that sterotypes are formed for a reason and not made up.

magpie

1. 17-21 year old male drivers: - Look at me bud, oim a bleedin rapid driver oi am, much better dan dat Shoemakker bloke...

2. 28-32 year old female drivers, particularly professionals: - I'll just tear along here ignoring most of the rules of the road, like indicating. What do you mean I am wrong? My insurance is cheaper than yours so I am obviously a better driver...

3. Middle aged women, esp in 4wd vehicles: I will absoloutly not let you out in front of me, I am an independent woman and I don't have to be courteous to anyone.

4. Middle to Old aged men: Look how fast I can go, I am still young, I swear...

Bang on the money. I salute you.

Big Nelly

Who are the most arrogant drivers? Well to be honest I am.....so get the f**k out of my way because I am in a hurry!!!!!

Enii

whippet wrote:

with regards to the post about 'black' drivers, I must admit that I have come across a very high proportion of bad driving from this demographic. I don't know if it is to do with the standard of driving in their 'home' countries or that they learn to drive by 'trial and error' in Ireland because of the provisional licence system. QUOTE]

How do you know from looking at a black driver where their "home" country is? Do you mean you can tell just from looking at someone that they were not born and bred in Ireland and that this is not their "home" country? That is quite an amazing talent you have there, Whippet.


Personally I have found taxi drivers to be the most arrogant. Yesterday I saw a taxi driver overtake a lane of cars because the person at the front wasn't taking the turn quick enough. The taxi driver undertook to drive on the wrong side of the road for the lenght of the 5 cars and take the turn faster himself. Needless to say the person taking the turn nearly drove into the back of him as he was turning.

whippet

Enii .. I used commas around the word home to illustrate the point that we can't be sure. But I can be sure that the majority of black people who are driving on irish roads were not born in ireland.

Stephen

Taxi drivers, closely followed by muppets in 4x4's (usually the soccer mom type) that have never been driven anywhere remotely close to "off road".

Johnny Storm

Lay off the middle aged men, ya pack a' bowzies!!!
We're the REAL victims here ......

stevenmu

IMO BMW drivers are the most arrogant, they see other cars around them but just pull out, pull in, stop, go where ever and whenever they like, they just seem to think that driving a beemer means they have some kind of God given right. Merc drivers drive as bad, but I don't think they actually realise there are other cars on the road, so it's more ignorance than arrogance really

Lemming

People.

Seth Brundle

unkel wrote:

Indeed, all BMW drivers really. They never ever indicate either

Ken Shabby wrote:

Absolutely unkel. One doesn't know why BMW's are fitted with indicators at all, haw haw.

Yeah - BMW drivers [especially 5 series drivers] are all ignorant wánkers and everyone else is better, blah, blah
Still generalising is good for us all.
Hmmm, maybe we should castigate black BMW drivers.
:rolleyes:


I fairness, I find that the majority will not be couretous to a me (E39 5 series driver) on the road. If they do let me change lane, pull out or whatever, then I am couretous back to them - always. However, I frequently come across others who will be deliberatly akward - e.g. I daily find cars speeding up if I consider moving across in front of them (on dual carriageways).

prospect

kbannon wrote:

however, I frequently come across others who will be deliberatly akward - e.g. I daily find cars speeding up if I consider moving across in front of them (on dual carriageways).

That happens to all of us, so don't feel to victimised.

I tend to drive, and have driven an awful lot of different cars, vans etc and I have to say, I have never noticed any particular 'improvement' in other drivers attitude to me in any particular car.
The only differnece I ever experienced was when my Dad got his 406 coupe. They were fairly new, and a rather imposing sight at the time, and when I drove it up the Naas road, the people in the outside lane, (I refuse to call it the overtaking lane as very few people will know what i am referring to), used to pull in out of my way automatically, I wasn't going particularly fast or anything , but I also wasn't complaining

PaulieC

Macy, how dare you accuse all Volvo drivers of being crap. How can you possibly generalise like that ? I drive a Volvo and am easily the best driver I know

Big Nelly

cambo_gueno wrote:

Macy, how dare you accuse all Volvo drivers of being crap. How can you possibly generalise like that ? I drive a Volvo and am easily the best driver I know

Self praise is no praise!!

prospect

cambo_gueno wrote:

Macy, how dare you accuse all Volvo drivers of being crap. How can you possibly generalise like that ? I drive a Volvo and am easily the best driver I know

Should there be a ' ' or a ' ' or maybe even a ' ' at the end of that message?

Big Nelly

prospect wrote:

Should there be a ' ' or a ' ' or maybe even a ' ' at the end of that message?

I think he was actually serious..... :eek:

PaulieC

Big Nelly wrote:

I think he was actually serious..... :eek:

hmmmm...I thought it would've been pretty obvious that I was being facetious...though I do drive a Volvo...

Apologies...I've just discovered the sarcastic smiley.. :rolleyes:

Gatster

Do you mean you can tell just from looking at someone that they were not born and bred in Ireland and that this is not their "home" country? That is quite an amazing talent you have there, Whippet.

Anybody from this demographic (well put previously) that I know that was born in Ireland does not wear what appears to be some sort of national dress when shopping in Spar, which can give it away when spotted behind the wheel. A guy who used to work for me 4 years ago from Ghana had NEVER sat behind the wheel of a car before he came here, but was going around in a large-ish late '80's dangerously knackered Toyota in an alarmingly unpredictable manner.

All irrelavant really, a lot of Micra drivers (not just with 'L' plates) and some E46 318ci drivers have no lane discipline, tailgate or go too slow (only for Micra drivers). Keep seeing lovely new-shape 5's careering across the bridge near the West-Link trying to decide which lane, always driven by women.

Paul (MN)

gardai?

Sleepy

Is there even a question about this? Beyond a shadow of a doubt it's the 4x4 drivers. They're so safe in their tanks that they completely forget that anyone else could be endangered by the fact they can't handle a vehicle that's obviously too big, too heavy and too dangerous for Irish roads.

We really should follow the Parisiennes and ban them from the roads for all but commercial use.

[/rant]

mike65

AlienGav wrote:

BLACK DRIVERS!

Just a gerenal observsation, I'm in no way being racist, but they're so bad it's not even funny.

This has been reported to the Mods, now I'm not going to ban you (though Borzoi might want to) cos I doubt you are racist unless I can find more evidence to prove it!

Are 'black' drivers the worst? Are Paddies the worst? Proberly as there are all lot more of you in this country! My own experience of "dem funny foreigners" is that they tend to drive a bit too slowly and lack some confidence. Not the worst sin in my book (if annoying at the time).

We could all do with fewer generalisations and more thinking time methinks.

Mike.

PS its Polish left hookers who are the worst drivers simply cos they can't see where the hell they're going!

sharkman

mike65 wrote:

This has been reported to the Mods, now I'm not going to ban you (though Borzoi might want to) cos I doubt you are racist unless I can find more evidence to prove it!

Are 'black' drivers the worst? Are Paddies the worst? Proberly as there are all lot more of you in this country! My own experience of "dem funny foreigners" is that they tend to drive a bit too slowly and lack some confidence. Not the worst sin in my book (if annoying at the time).

We could all do with fewer generalisations and more thinking time methinks.

Mike.

PS its Polish left hookers who are the worst drivers simply cos they can't see where the hell they're going!

You cant ban him for that ! Can you ? I would have thought that Hookers from the left of Poland were too busy to be driving !

blastman

Sorry, but I think that PCness gone mad has reached this thread. I can't see how the generalisation about black drivers was any more offensive than any of the others in a thread that is about generalisations, let's face it (and not particularly serious ones at that).

mike65

Call it a pre-emptive nudge away from a trolling abysss, last thing I want is Stormfronters chiming in.

Mike.

junkyard

It looks like its time to set up BMW 5-SERIES VICTIM SUPPORT GROUP here. We CANNOT tolerate this kind of thing! This BMW bashing has to stop. Yer only jealous, secretly ye all want to own one and yes they really are the best car on the road.

unkel

Nice momo, yunkyard

What engine / spec?

69 mustang

I'd have to say ALL of us at some time.
I've done stuff in the passed that I would thought after dust settling and all was not the right way to handle a situation IE fighting arrogants with arrogants.

{Going forwards not backwards upwards not downwards but constantly whirling whirling whiririririrling]

junkyard

M5, 5 litre, V8, 400bhp. The ultimate 5 series, we only use the roads for landing!

unkel

junkyard wrote:

M5, 5 litre, V8, 400bhp

junkyard wrote:

The ultimate 5 series

Until the current one if one can get to peace with its looks. I know it's possible, it will just take time...

69 mustang

junkyard wrote:

M5, 5 litre, V8, 400bhp. The ultimate 5 series, we only use the roads for landing!

I'd run that one by the motor tax office and see if you can get a discount maybe even motor bike tax if you tell them only 2 of your wheels are only ever using the road at any one time.

pontovic

Im surprised no one has mentioned truck drivers here. I find them to be the most arrogant and aggressive drivers on the road. I drive 50 miles to work everyday on the m50 and the naas road and I see them shooting in and out of lanes and tailgating all the time. Scary thing really considering their size. One of them even went into the side of my car in the city center and fled the scene and Im still trying to chase him up on it.
Today i was driving on the naas road into work just coming up to the exit for citywest, and i must have been driving at 45mph, which was the general speed of ther traffic at that time. A truck is behind me right up my ass flashing me, and he lets out a blast of the horn at me. I take my exit and he follows me up to the roundabout, where he decided to give me another blast of the horn for not going ( there were other cars on the roundabout ). What an arrogant prick I hope he doesnt kill someone. !!!

Borzoi

mike65 wrote:

This has been reported to the Mods, now I'm not going to ban you (though Borzoi might want to) cos I doubt you are racist unless I can find more evidence to prove it!

I thought about it - but I'm too busy watching out for the black Polish driver in her BMW Taxi

prospect

Borzoi wrote:

I thought about it - but I'm too busy watching out for the black Polish driver in her BMW Taxi

Oh you sexist pig!!!!!!!!!

NUTLEY BOY

1. Little twerps driving company cars who don't care about those cars or anyone else.

2. Idiots talking on mobile telephones whilst driving.

3. A slight variation on 2. being those safe drivers who pull over and stop to take a call by picking the most dangerous places to park themselves !

4. Very young males who have confidence that is light years beyond their actual abilities behind the wheel.