**** nas

chiller

xxxxxx[colour=darkolivegreen]xxx[/colour] nas is an idioit who can not rap two words together unlike fifty who is up there with the likes of big hova. the only good thing nas has in his life is his wife kelise the stupid ho :mad: :mad:

Klimseven

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh,
you straight burned him yo!

Makaveli

blah, blah, blah, blah

Klimseven

naw son, that cat got served, straight up and down. Did 50 pay you for the post son, on the real?

AARRRGH

Most rappers are highly overrated.

Anyone remember NWA? Now THEY could rap.

Klimseven

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holy jesus

chillywilly

moo

peepsbates

ure an idiot if u rekon nas cant rap.jeeeess

yak_kadafi

chiller wrote:

xxxxxx[colour=darkolivegreen]xxx[/colour] nas is an idioit who can not rap two words together unlike fifty who is up there with the likes of big hova. the only good thing nas has in his life is his wife kelise the stupid ho :mad: :mad:

no man **** u....go suck 50's u know what

scuba steve

dublindude wrote:

Most rappers are highly overrated.

Anyone remember NWA? Now THEY could rap.

Great music came from them. Nas is a great rapper

Makaveli

Yak_Kadafi you are just back from a ban for personal abuse and this is what you post?
Banned again. Let's say for a month this time.

chern0byl

chiller wrote:

I ****ed nas

You did. Im so jealous. Always wanted to get into the groupie game. /word

billstraighten

freee posting thread...lol

just coz 50 sold more doesnt make him a better rapper

Dutchboy

I think NaS is Decent, his new stuff isnt as good as his old stuff though!

Id prefer 'God's Son' to his most recent double album

ubu

Man you so right, i was just thinking how NaS doesnt compare lyrically to 50 Cent, hes so shít, and 50 is so sexxy and the way he talks/mumbles all his words coz he got shot that makes him soo ghetto, i wish i was as real as him...............blah blah blah i could go on, shouldnt really bother responding to these trolls but what the hell its fun to laugh at these people.

Orizio

Nas definetly fell off badly after IWW.To me I am and Nostradamus were trash of the highest order.He has had two 5 mic albums(illmatic and the lost tapes)but really profuction wise his work,besides illmatic,never matches his lyrical skill and flow.Seriously Salaam Remi?Painfully inconsistent.The Alchemist?Overrated.Stillmatic was not a 5 mic album,whatever the source says,there was plenty of filler on it and the same can be said for SD(would have been a classic if it was a single disc album) and Gods Son(Made you look and Get down are two true classics-rest of the album is pretty forgetable).Still the GOAT though,in front of Ghostface and Kane.

Besides that verse on Hate it or Love it,50 makes pop purely for 15 year old teenage girls.

Stompbox

Nas is excellent. Halftime is the greatest Hip Hop song ever.

MikeTyson

chiller what ur u talking about u fanny!! nas is class i went to his concert in dublin. not many people were der which was better cus i was dancing around with the black guys and tryn to sell them some smoke it was daycent... he played songs from all his albums even his first one the best songs being It Aint Hard To Tell , The World Is Mine, One Mic all from his first album!!! chiller suck my d!k

Kristok

^^^^^

Stop with the txt speak you have a full keyboard.

Nas is great although i agree with what ubu said, he dosnt compare lyrically to 50 Cent

Orizio

One Mic was from Stillmatic,not Illmatic.

Halftime like soooo clearly doesn't compare to that classic in lyrical complexites,50's Candy Shop...

Stompbox

In Da Club still kicks ass. And when it does actually come on in the club its class

hiphopfanno1

I loved Gods Son but Streets Disciple was quite weak for Nas the only decent songs were Bridging the Gap,War,Reason and Just a Moment. No offense to any Nas fans or anything its just Nas is starting to get kinda boring and runnig out of decent rhymes. I think 50's lyrics are stronger and that he'll be around for a lot longer than Nas, he is known EVERYWHERE it's scary.

ubu

hiphopfanno1 wrote:

I loved Gods Son but Streets Disciple was quite weak for Nas the only decent songs were Bridging the Gap,War,Reason and Just a Moment. No offense to any Nas fans or anything its just Nas is starting to get kinda boring and runnig out of decent rhymes. I think 50's lyrics are stronger and that he'll be around for a lot longer than Nas, he is known EVERYWHERE it's scary.

OK, 50's lyrics stronger? Rapping about candy shops and lollipops isn't exactly ground breaking is it? NaS is consistently on a (much) higher level when it comes to subject matter over 95% of other MC's out there. Prove me wrong.

As regards Streets Disciple, i agree it wasn't as strong as his other albums but i think that due to the fact that he made it a double album, if he had put the best material from the two discs onto one its would have been much better received.

NaS has been around alot long than 50, illmatic dropped in 1994, 50 is known everywhere because he is much more of a commercial success than NaS, commercial success cannot be associated with talent. i think 50 has already run out of things to say, although he probably has an army of writers working for him aswell. To me, NaS will stay relevant alot longer that 50 ever has or will.

Orizio

I loved Gods Son but Streets Disciple was quite weak for Nas the only decent songs were Bridging the Gap,War,Reason and Just a Moment.

Listen to Virgo,(the brilliant)Disciple or Streets Disciple any time lately.Actually I agree it was a bit boring,especially beat wise,but lyrical Nas was as strong as ever.As Ubu said,it would have been a true classic if it was a single cd.

No offense to any Nas fans or anything its just Nas is starting to get kinda boring and runnig out of decent rhymes.

Boring possibly but running out of decent rhymes?Never.

I think 50's lyrics are stronger and that he'll be around for a lot longer than Nas, he is known EVERYWHERE it's scary.

Nas has been known for a decade plus,ever since live at the barboque.50 simply can't compare to that.50 has never,and never will make an album close to Illmatic,Stillmatic,etc(in fact that whole Nas catalogue) lyrical.I mean compare trash like Candy Shop to Nas is like or Made you look.Really,theres no comparison.

Orizio

At the end of the day,we all know who is going to be a possible canditate for the GOAT along with Rakim,Ghostface,Kane,Chuck etc.And it ain't 50.Frankly he is one of the weakest rappers in the G-Unit.

LegacyUser

50 Cent was around too...except he was an underground mc and the best one at that. Every mixtape ny had that was popular basically had 50 cent on it.

Makaveli

The best underground mc? I seriously doubt 50 Cent would have ever been considered the best underground mc.

Kristok

If you had listened to mixtapes for a year or or so before 50 signed to shady/aftermath you would know he was considered the biggest underground artist around.

Stompbox

Best Nas song ever,guys?

Kristok

id say ether

Stompbox

I have to say Halftime. Bursting at the seams with style.

LegacyUser

Makaveli wrote:

The best underground mc? I seriously doubt 50 Cent would have ever been considered the best underground mc.

Well he was....every single mixtape released was 50 cent basically week in week out.

Orizio

Made you Look,The World is Yours and Nas is Like.Just shows how incredible he can be with decent production.

Fidelis

Illmatic is fantastic!

dubfire

ha ha im in absolute convultions laughing at this thread,anyone who says 50 cent is a better rapper then nas needs there head examined and needs to just stick to there cheasy night club,to tell u the thruth i dont really regard 50 cent as a rapper he ,s more pop music,few catchy tunes.

im not even that mad into nas but i know he,s a legend in the rap game and he with fck 50 up in a battle r antin and that he,s a whole different class to 50 cent,its like saying puff daddy s a better rapper than tupac,there s no comparison. l8r.

COCK

Illmatic is the best rap album of all time, so dont say **** about nas, for that one album, he was the best lyric writer, rapper, and everything else in the world, and then he fukced up and sold out, so now hes ****

50 is so 5hit its not even funny, hes worse than kanye west

Kristok

Nas only half filled the point and 50 sold it out 3 times, maby some of you lot shoud get past illmatic and move on cause it seems the rest of ireland has. There both good rappers and if you dont like one fine but seriously getting all worked up over 50 being rubbish is really getting old at this stage.

hiphopfanno1

COCK wrote:

Illmatic is the best rap album of all time, so dont say **** about nas, for that one album, he was the best lyric writer, rapper, and everything else in the world, and then he fukced up and sold out, so now hes ****

50 is so 5hit its not even funny, hes worse than kanye west

Since when is Kanye bad???If you think Kanye is bad then you really are messed up let alone for thinking 50 is a bad rapper

ubu

Seriously, how many times does it have to be said that just because 50 appeals to the masses doesnt mean he's better, yea NaS didnt fill the point but so what, he will still always be better than 50. maybe you should get past the fact that 50 makes more money and listen to the lyrics in songs.

COCK wrote:

llmatic is the best rap album of all time, so dont say **** about nas, for that one album, he was the best lyric writer, rapper, and everything else in the world, and then he fukced up and sold out, so now hes ****

as for that, have you ever listened to Stillmatic, Gods Son or The Lost Tapes?

Kristok

ubu wrote:

he will still always be better than 50. maybe you should get past the fact that 50 makes more money and listen to the lyrics in songs

If you think nas is better than 50 then thats your opinion. Whats nas done thats so much better than 50. I personally dont really like illmatic as ive already stated I think hes done much better albums. I like 50's early stuff and his first album. Has nothing to do with money I and allot of people just like him as an artist and thats our opinion which is just as valid as yours but you dont see us going around slaging off what you like just because were not into it.

Makaveli

Nas has lasted in a fickle industry for 11 years, something I don't honestly see 50 Cent doing. When 50 Cent has been around that long and has released a few more albums then maybe there will be more grounds for comparison.
As things stand there is no point comparing the two.

Kristok

50 isnt new hes been around since 1999 with how to rob. In that "short" 6 year period he has managed to become the biggest name bar none in rap right now and developed a record label thats actually releasing albums that sell and signing people that fans want to hear and hes creating a movement on par with death row and bad boy and things like that dont just disapear (well not unless he gets shot or something).

Yes nas has been around longer and its a good thing that he has been able to keep up with trends but all he does is keep himself going, he has tried and failed to get a label going and any artists like jungle and the bravehearts he has tried to push have failed big time. People give nas all this mad respect like he invented rap himself rather than he released a hot album but no matter who else he is compared to its always nas made illmatic bla bla bla.

The past is the past if you want to compare the present then personally I think nas and 50 are not at their best I havnt bought either of their last albums due to the fact that I downloaded them and found them both to be pretty bad. The albums before that 50's get rich was by far better than gods son and before that nas did stillmatic which was a great album and way better than the indi album 50 released but again thats then and this is now and right now nas is rubbish and as far as rapping is concerned so is 50.

Makaveli

What has starting succesful labels got to do with rapping ability? Nothing, so why bring something irrelevant up. We are not discussing what they have done in rap as a whole rather what they have released.
But as for your comment about things like that not just disappearing. Nobody cares about Death Row or Bad Boy anymore, they aren't relevant to the present in terms of album releases.
50 Cent is a lyrically poor rapper. His delivery is poor and his lyrics are poor. Had it not been for Eminem do you really think he would be this big world wide? No, more than likely not, so he has ridden the backs of others fame to get his name known outside of the underground scene.
Nas hasn't needed any of that. He's done it himself, with help from some great producers, but he didn't need someone like Eminem. His lyrical content destroys 50 Cent's. His flow and delivery are far better. At least you can understand him, 50 mumbles his words (shot in the mouth yeah so what, when your profession is music you need to be able to understand the words they say).

Also, God's Son and Get Rich are not the same type of album. Get Rich is appealing to clubs where as God's Son isn't a club album. 50 Cent makes pop songs that sell well, Nas makes the songs that he wants to and obviously the club songs appeal less to him. Just because 50 is played more doesn't make him a better artist.

Nas is not rubbish now. He is mediocre. I'm not his biggest fan, I like three or four of his albums, but I still think he's a great lyricist. 50 Cent is mediocre at best. His G-Unit/Aftremath albums are not good. He is rubbish, maybe he should focus less on record labels and more on his own music.

Orizio

SD was hardly 'bad',it should have been a 12 track album,while some of the beats were boring.But Nas' ability on the mic is strong and obvious throughout the album.Ultimately Nas has had his slump and came back with stillmatic,lets see whether 50 lasts in the industry so long.

Besides on rap ability,we all know that there is no comparison.50 tends to have the better beats but that doesn't make him a better rapper then Nas.Hell look at Outta Control-a past it Mobb Deep humiliated the in prime 50.

Kristok

Death row and bad boy are very relevent allot of artists who are still big today started with them labels or moved to them and became bigger. Gunit has the ability to bring mob and mobb deep into the mainstream and make new artists that will be around for a very long time. It has nothing to do with how good a rapper 50 cent is it has to do with how long he lasts in the industry which you said you dont think he will.

Ok I know allot of people outside of the states think 50 only started with get rich but I expect people on this board who claim to be all knowing about rap to know that he was around long before he inked a deal with shady records and regardless of who he signed to his buzz was already massive and he could have released an album with any label and been as big as he is now. 50 cent is self made, when his album came out people knew about him from mixtapes that was it eminem had nothing to do with his initial success. You claim he is riding the coat tails of eminem well the same can be said about eminem with dre but it dosnt make him any less of a credible artist.

Right now nas is not the rapper he was when he released stillmatic his two albums since then have got worse and worse. I am personally a big nas fan but im a critical about him just as I am about any other artist. As an artist 50 is pretty rubbish right now as ive said many times already but right now so is nas and untill he comes out of his slump hes still a rubbish artist who in the past had some good albums.

Anyway typical snobish attitude around here that the majority of us around here have become all too accustomed to.

Makaveli

How is it snobish to think 50 Cent is rubbish?
Typical defensive attitude around here that to knock a commercially successful rapper means you're being a snob that the majority of us around here have become all too accustomed to.

You were the one that said let's not bring up the past, so how are Death Row and Bad Boy relevant in todays industry with regards to releasing albums? They're not as I said. You are basically saying 50 Cent is only going to last in this industry if he focuses on breaking other artists and promoting his label. My point was Nas has lasted this long as an artist, you appear to have missed my intention.

As for 50 being self made, as I said he is a worldwide success because he signed with Eminem and Dr Dre. Do you think if Jermain Dupri signed him he would be as big as he is now? Doubtful. 50 Cent needed their faces to gain air play etc, I never said he started with Get Rich. I also never said he was in any way less credible because of the contract he signed I just said it's thanks to who he signed with that he is as popular as he is now.

You seem to either be making assumption or putting words in my mouth. I stated the main reason 50 is as big as he is today is because he signed with Shady Records meaning he was connected to Eminem and because Eminem sells records by the bucket load radio/tv/magazines are interested in who he has signed, who they can make money off. That's why 50 is as big as he is worldwide. Do you think little Paddy from the back arse of nowhere knew about 50 before the deal? Doubtful.

So, we have 50 being huge worldwide for this, not for his lyrical ability. Nas however, is known worldwide for his ability. He is self made. That's why their is no comparison between the two. That's why 50 Cent needs to release more albums and needs to be around longer before we can compare properly, and running a label isn't being a rapper.

ubu

Yea, there was a big buzz about 50 before he signed to shady, there was a bit of a bidding war going on iirc, anyway how to rob was good, he had hunger back then, now i really dont think he gives a shít how good/bad his music is because he has reached a level where it doesn't matter if it's utter poo or not, it will still sell as long as his name's attached to it, which is a shame, the general commercial rap buying public should be a lot more critical and have higher standards it would encourage some artists to actually put in some effort into their records.

In relation to NaS, Stillmatic was the highlight of his recent albums, but it sets a very high standard, just as illmatic did when it came out, so it was gonna be almost impossible to come out with 2 more albums on the same level as it, saying that he also had a reason to make an album of stillmatics standards with the whole Jay-Z thing going on at the time, so it goes back to the hunger to do your best, but it is very mis-guided of you to say he is a rubbish artist, i think NaS could have done better with SD, i also think he didn't need to make it a double album, but saying that he is still better than any commercial rapper, his track record speaks for itself, any artist would kill to have the back catalogue that NaS has, and i have a feeling his new album should once again do him justice and re-affirm his status as one of the GOAT.

Makaveli

You know, I have only just realised that Chiller started this thread, and he was the one that accussed me of knowing nothing about rap and that I must only like 50 Cent.
:boggle:

chiller

sorry but is my opinion and i dont like nas i dont think he is a good rapper sorry

Makaveli

You don't have to apologise.

Seaneh

Nas basically invented the style of rapping most popular today.

Jigga stole his flow, and just about everyone from the east coast in the last 10 years stole from jigga or nas' style.

"All I did was give you a style for you to run with" was the most honest line from ether.