Scotch Hall

Bluetonic

Is it just me or is Scotch Hall going to open a lot sooner than Nov 10th if that timer doesn't slow down....

http://www.scotch-hall.com/

Cute_Mandy

I would love for it to open sonner but i cant see if even open in novemeber 05

eamoss

Bit wired 'The Marshes' shopping centre in Dundalk which is costing the same and looks a lot smaller then Scotch Hall and will have most of the same shops in it. It is opening on the 3rd of November.

Anyone think the same?

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bopper

JESUS! Could they not have gotten a prettier model? If "she" is coming, i'll be running in the opposite direction!

MonkeyTennis

Id do her

eamoss

eamoss wrote:

Bit wired 'The Marshes' shopping centre in Dundalk which is costing the same and looks a lot smaller then Scotch Hall and will have most of the same shops in it. It is opening on the 3rd of November.[/url]

Anyone see the plan of it in the Dundalk Demo? Had something like 40 shops. Can anyone upload to the web?(dont have scanner )

See they have a website www.themarshesshopping.com

stclarke

I have heard a rumour that Hickeys are opening a pharmacy in Scotch Hall, not BOOTS. Does Drogheda really need a 3rd Hickeys?? With what they offer on there West Street store i think not. There is no pharmacy confirmed yet, but there is no large units left, is Drogheda going to be left without a Boots Pharmacy. Navan has one, and Dundalk's getting one, Why not Drogheda.

Bluetonic

Two articles from todays Irish Times property section.

~Leanne~

Yea it should be open 10th alright. Im starting work in it then! :P

Guv

Working where if one may ask?
It looks like it will be good. 1m sq ft, how big is dundrum sc?

Bluetonic

Dundrum is apparently 850,000 sq ft with a further 399,986 sq ft beign developed at the moment.

Jervis Shopping centre is around 1.2million sq ft.

Edited to say that Guv's post above qoutes the floor space of Scotch Hall at 1million sq feet. This is however the sq ft of the combined project appartments, hotel, offices etc..,

The retail sq ft of Sctoch Hall is only 200,000 sq feet.

nj23

The Scotch Hall floor plans are printed in the local papers this week showing the different shops. there's no boots or hickeys. there doesnt seem to be a pharmacy at all actually.

~Leanne~

@ Guv - Pulse Accessories.

Yea im disappointed that we have no Boots. For the size of the town - one is needed,both Dundalk and Navan have one.

Bluetonic

Why the big call to have a Boots in Drogheda?

Nothing special, overpriced.

Guv

Bluetonic wrote:

Dundrum is apparently 850,000 sq ft with a further 399,986 sq ft beign developed at the moment.

Jervis Shopping centre is around 1.2million sq ft.

Edited to say that Guv's post above qoutes the floor space of Scotch Hall at 1million sq feet. This is however the sq ft of the combined project appartments, hotel, offices etc..,

The retail sq ft of Sctoch Hall is only 200,000 sq feet.

Surprised that Jervis is in fact bigger than Dundrum. I read so many figures for Scotch Hall - good to finally get the facts. Is it already 1m or will that be when phase two comes on board?

Cheers Leanne! Is Pulse like those Claire's shops?

positron

Traffic on Dublin road is already quite heavy – now with an extra set of traffic lights, and people coming out of Scotch Hall car park, I am not looking forward to driving in that part of the town at all!

They should really consider roundabout or fly-over or something like that there, or may be a slip road to Scotch Hall or something!

~Leanne~

@ Bluetonic - i like the 3 for 2 offers hehe!!
@ Guv - yep im pressuming they are pretty similar altho Pulse wouldnt be aimed at kiddie stuff as much.

Red Fan X5

nj23 wrote:

The Scotch Hall floor plans are printed in the local papers this week showing the different shops. there's no boots or hickeys. there doesnt seem to be a pharmacy at all actually.

I'm glad they're getting a decent bookshop "Waterstones" instead of that crappy "Easons" and that "HMV" are opening (beside "Waterstones") instead of that dive "The Sound Shop". At least people won't be stuck for a Xmas pressie.
As for Boots, tis a pity they're not in there.

Bluetonic

No surprise that Waterstone are opening up beside HMV, I suspect they'll be sharing much of the backroom floorspace considering they are the same company (well HMV own Waterstones)

klong

Red Fan X5 wrote:

I'm glad they're getting a decent bookshop "Waterstones" instead of that crappy "Easons" and that "HMV" are opening (beside "Waterstones") instead of that dive "The Sound Shop". At least people won't be stuck for a Xmas pressie.

Excellent

Dingatron

Well two days to go. Handbags ready! Looking forward to having a mooch around the new centre but what impact is it going to have on the Dublin Road? I think we all know the answer to this already. This might be alleviated a bit by opening of the new road through Bryanstown up through Meadow View. Also if the NRA removed the ridiculous toll on the Donore Road we'd all be a lot better off. Anyway shop till you drop!

gonker

Yeah cant wait...pity its going to be pay parking though. I was talking to the manager the other day and was asking him were they going to do a deal ie spend €50 in Dunnes get an hours free parking but he said no the council sets the parking but if supervalu can do it surely everyone can
I cant see people just popping in to get a loaf of bread and having to pay for their parking. The traffic is mental in the town during the last week to two weeks since they put up those new lights????? I thought they were going to syncronise the lights so you would get a straight run right through the town but I think it is worse now....Aw well I think I will be walking down......

~Leanne~

Heading down tonight to stock up the shop - ill be there till well after 12 id say as the contractors havent even left the shop itself yet!!
Ill be parking over at bus depot, place is hectic! Id hate to see it 2moro night and all weekend!!!!!

maximus02

Is it just me or does anyone else think that there is going to be traffic chaos at the entrance to Scotch Hall?

I don't just mean for the opening, I mean at all peak shopping times.......permantly!!

gonker

Yes def.... Its getting worser and worser:D every day......

delly

Don't worry people, cause there going to be building a massive motorway to bypass the town which should help the traffic.
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Whats that?

You say there is already a motorway :eek: ?

gonker

No really where.....oh is that that big black strip of tarmac with the people in the middle who keep taking money off me for driving on it?????:D

eth0_

Bluetonic wrote:

Dundrum is apparently 850,000 sq ft with a further 399,986 sq ft beign developed at the moment.

Jervis Shopping centre is around 1.2million sq ft.

Edited to say that Guv's post above qoutes the floor space of Scotch Hall at 1million sq feet. This is however the sq ft of the combined project appartments, hotel, offices etc..,

The retail sq ft of Sctoch Hall is only 200,000 sq feet.

Where do you get these figures? There is no WAY Jervis is bigger than Dundrum. Dundrum is one of the biggest shopping centres in Europe. Jervis is just a mall in the city centre.

I have to say, there must have been some serious pushing of brown envelopes to get the monstrosity that is Scotch Hall passed by the planning authorities. What an EYESORE! I know Drogheda isn't the prettiest town by a long shot but my god SH looks awful.

They didn't even do a proper survey of the land, as was shown when the supporting wall between the Marsh Road and the Dublin road started crumbling last year!

Driving in Drogheda is crappy at the best of times but it's going to be absolutely unbearable with the fantastically intelligent decision to have the car park exit directly onto the Dublin road at the junction where traffic from Donore/Navan etc enters Drogheda.

One the one hand, it's great Drogheda will finally have some decent shops, we've been ripped off with crappy shops for too long. But OTOH, the location and design of SH is an absolute disgrace.

Irjudge1

eth0_ wrote:

What an EYESORE! I know Drogheda isn't the prettiest town by a long shot but my god SH looks awful.

They didn't even do a proper survey of the land, as was shown when the supporting wall between the Marsh Road and the Dublin road started crumbling last year!
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Nah, I don't agree I the design is Ok. It's a bit stark on the Dublin Road side but I think the elevation onto the riverfront is alright. OK I'm not in love with it but there are worse developments about. If they get the go ahead for the Teracotta tower in phase 2 now that will be a disgrace at least the original proposal tied in with the existing scheme.

As far as I'm aware the subsidence of the wall on the Dublin Road was down to a contractor firing ahead without proper permission.

gonker

And to Bluetronic the OP look at the website now its on minus figures and it hasnt opened yet.....
I have to do a few jobs down the town this morning so Ill be having a look as soon as I can:D

positron

I have to say the design isn’t the most original idea if they wanted to improve the look of the town. There must have been other ideas or suggestions to look it slightly better to blend in with rest of the town, but its clear someone thinks modern means just straight grey walls and glass!

At the same time, its great – all new jobs, new shops, more choice etc etc, fantastic!

Bluetonic

eth0_ wrote:

Where do you get these figures? There is no WAY Jervis is bigger than Dundrum. Dundrum is one of the biggest shopping centres in Europe. Jervis is just a mall in the city centre.

....of the retail space in the 78,965 sq m (850,000 sq ft) has already been committed and there is considerably competition for the remaining units. In addition to the shopping, the centre will have a wide range of facilities including civic buildings, a 200-seater theatre, 78 bedroom hotel, 17,651 sq m (189,993 sq ft) of offices, 59 apartments and a car-park with 2,900 spaces.

With planning permission for 37,160 sq m (399,986 sq ft) of shopping, there are likely to be about 80 individual stores, making it slightly bigger than Jervis Centre.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/2004/0204/287937874CPDUNDRUMZARA.html

Don't forget Jervis includes the Large 4 story M & S building in it's remit.

sandyg

Must say driving past it last night its not the most inviting looking shopping centre ive seen. I notice that driving into it and out of it will be some fun especially in the run up to xmas and over the next few weeks with everyone going in to have a look. The traffic will by mental just like it was before the motorway came in. We shall be going back to long delays both in and out of drogheda. Dont think much planning went into the carparking of it as when you exit (heading for dundalk) you have to cross over lane with the traffic lights just a few yards away (I can see complete mayhem with it). Im dreading it. :mad:

~Leanne~

Went in today - looks really well inside, nearly all the shops are open. Didnt park in the carpark though, id say its pretty awkward!!

gonker

Just returned from it....Its lovely a bit packed to say the least and a lot of the shops are not open. Hey Leanne what happened saw you all packing but the doors werent open. Ceiling is a bit low when you walk in but when you get into the shops its better. NIce mix of old and new materials where they incorporated some of the old buildings into the design looks good. No coffee place open yet could have done with one:D . Off now to bring the kids down :eek: .

GrumPy

Yeah, was in there twice today once at lunch, then again after school, it's nice and hmv is cool, but the ****ing heat:o gr8 shop, i think ill be spending a bit more time in drogheda from now on, the shop only opened today and it was packed with woman:D:D sexy women;)

Red Fan X5

Just back from the Hall. Good mix of Shops but it does need a BOOTS. I've to agree with Irish Grumpy, the heat was stifling. Not one of the shop had their air conditioning on.:o

delly

I was there about 7:30 or so and it was very cool, so they must have turned the AC on. Be careful of the carpark entrance ramp when its raining, as when i started to move from my position halfway up it, my wheels just kept skidding. The guy behind me nearly had a heart attack :v:.

gonker

When I was there at 11 o'clock when it opened it was freezing...
Disapointed in the Dunnes drapery it looks as if half the stock is missing. Kids clothes very bad selection. I was in swords the other day and it is so much better.
The Waterstones is fantastic. Good bargains to be had there.

Went down at 4 o'clock and had no problem finding parking or getting through the town. Left at 7 very mindful of the price of parking (its a disgrace) and had no problem getting out. Traffic lights coming out of the centre to let you out on to the road. The only problem I had was going to the car park and not being able to find my car:eek: There is two different car parks and I went to a different one had a little panic attack and frightened a "courting" :eek: couple well I dont know who was more surprised me or them:eek: .

GrumPy

lol? wtf? in the car park? haha, well i (when i say i, i mean my sister) had to pay €13.50 for parking, like WTF

gonker

Just inside the doors from the car park:D ...Hey its warm and dry....:D
Yes I agree the parking is a disgrace. I was in Marshes in Dundalk and Dunnes give you two hours free with every €20 spent.....cant see why they cant do it here:mad:

Dingatron

Jesus €13.50 for parking? How long was that for?

Guv

Different management company. I find that paying for parking is a real p1ss take. You go into the shops with the intention of buying items and I am sure some spend a few hundred euros surely a sensible thing to do would be to encourage the shopper to linger in the centre for longer rather than jack them on the parking. Sure you might get window shoppers but these people may buy items as well on impulse.

When did we start as a nation accepting that paying for parking in a sc is normal, this would never happen in the US.

Is the surface of the carpark easy on the tyres or is it the same garbage as in Dundrum?

Dunnes open to midnight for food in scotch hall?

Bluetonic

Guv wrote:

When did we start as a nation accepting that paying for parking in a sc is normal, this would never happen in the US.

Totally irrelevant comparison comparison, we're not in the US.

Who needs to spend more than one to two hours in there anyhow?

There is also the risk that if it is free parking then it would be used as an over flow by rail users.

gonker

Well its 1.20 an hour for the first three hours so 3.60 then wait for it :eek: :eek: €5 something an hour after that so 5 hours.....:eek: I havent been in the Dundrum Centre yet so dont know what the surface is like it seems to be kinda rubbery if you know what I mean...well my heels didnt "click" on them

delly

Dunnes is open M-F until 12.

Car park isn't painted like Dundrum.

Bluetonic

gonker wrote:

Well its 1.20 an hour for the first three hours so 3.60 then wait for it :eek: :eek: €5 something an hour after that so 5 hours.....:eek: I havent been in the Dundrum Centre yet so dont know what the surface is like it seems to be kinda rubbery if you know what I mean...well my heels didnt "click" on them

If, and by God I don't know how anyone could spend three hours shopping in Scotch Hal, but if you you need to spend over three hours shopping then on the third hour pay for your parking and exit and then reenter the car park immediately.

~Leanne~

The car park prices are a joke! I have to park at bus depot and walk over! Althought if you were shopping, you would get everything done within 3 hours!

gonker

I have two daughters who love to try on clothes.....:D I spent one hour in New Look last night outside the dressing rooms saying how gorgeous they looked in stuff.....:D Also if you wanted to have a cup of coffee do your grocery shopping and go clothes and shoe shopping the time would add up I can tell you:D

GrumPy

gonker wrote:

I have two daughters who love to try on clothes.....:D I spent one hour in New Look last night outside the dressing rooms saying how gorgeous they looked in stuff.....:D Also if you wanted to have a cup of coffee do your grocery shopping and go clothes and shoe shopping the time would add up I can tell you:D

what ages are we talkin bout here?

gonker

13 in a few days....and 10.......

Just down there again...If you go into carpark 2 there is no way to the shopping bar the lift which is very very packed....not a good design.....There was queues of people waiting to get to the shopping area and people going down the up travelator which could be dangerous...:eek: