US: Lost Theories... *Spoilers*

trishw78

Theories as discussed on 'Lost Reveled' on E4 on Saturday nite:

1) Plane crash was a wormhole that lead to a different planet.
2) Island is like "Jurassic Park" and the surviviors are part of an experiment
3) Survivors are actually dead and are in purgatory.


I was just wondering if anyone else had any ideas or theories. I must admitt All 3 above have at some point past through my mind. But on watching the reveled show the writers said something interesting in every episode there are suttle clues from the books to the comic. I then watched the first episode on E4 and noticed something I hadn't before as we hear the 'Gaint' destroying the forest a random woman says "I recognise that sound I've lived in the Bronks all my life and I know that sound" which also made me think why is it we only ever see it or here it in the rain... So heres my latest theory

Its a machine like a digger or something and it's the tracks on it grating against metal.

So that's my latest theory anyone else have any intersting thoughts ...

Kazaanova

The purgatory theory is the stupidest theory I've ever heard. Even for a TV show. Its not that it doesnt make sense that bothers me, its that its been blatantly, straight out, denied by nearly everyone whos been asked about it.

JP Mulvano

trishw78 wrote:

3) Survivors are actually dead and are in purgatory.
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Its a machine like a digger or something and it's the tracks on it grating against metal.

So that's my latest theory anyone else have any intersting thoughts ...

I think the purgatory thing, although I'll admit it does make sense, has been discounted a number of times including JJ Abrams the creator of the show. Like it said though it does make sense. I woulndn't rule it out.

also I think someone else on boards said that the mechanical noises were traps or something setup so that the lostie's couldnt get to the inside of the island.

Also I think that we'll see michelle rodigruez again. I can't see them introducing her for only a few minutes and then bogging off.

Cracker of a show though!!

trishw78

I think Naveen said on the reveled show that'd it be stupid if was... That they'd been through all that only to wake up and it be a dream... I think I saw something like a trap going off in the background of that reveled show...

monkeyfudge

How many episodes have you seen, trishw78?

It would be a shame if things were spoiled for you... There is a bit more of Lostzilla shown in the last episodes of season 1... but I'd only want discuss it if you've seen that far..

JP Mulvano

Another Bobby Ewing in Dallas, **** that would be frustrating.

I think there's plenty of theories about wormholes and alternative universies and etc etc. But I think in the end it will turn out to be fairly mundane. Well maybe not mundane but certainly not off the wall science fiction crazy explanation.

Maybe some secret government expiriment or something like. I say this because I don't think a mainstream prime time show will ever be something off the wall. I think they'll not want to alienate a prime time audience by going all bizzarre. But hey I could be wrong.

In fact I'd like to be wrong.

monkeyfudge

Anyway... my latest idea about Lostzilla is this:

(don't read this if you haven't seen episode 24 and 25)

We definitely hear mechanical noises from Lostzilla... but then we also have that strange smoke. So perhaps Lostzilla is both mechanical and ethereal. This would tie in with the whole theme of faith versus science that seems to be developing in the show. Perhaps when Locke saw the Lostzilla first he only saw the ethereal part of Lostzilla as he is the person with faith in the island. But when Jack and Locke were there together in episode 25 it was both mechanical and ethereal, which is brought about by Jack's belief in science. This would mean that it's the mechanical part that is evil as Locke was scared in his second encounter with Lostzilla as it wasn't quite the same as before

trishw78

monkeyfudge wrote:

How many episodes have you seen, trishw78?
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I've seen pretty much all of them except for last monday's (N2) & I missed the repeat due to BB Final... But I like your theory about faith verus science its very interesting... and I did notice that Locke was suddenly scared of Lostzilla most perplexing ...

well if all else fails we'll have to wait only 4 years to see how it all ends and it's probably a very simple reasonable explaination that we've all over looked due to the human imagination running wild...

I've just had another WILD Theroy... What if they are in a Virtual Reality Game... The year could be sometime in the not to distant future...

Its WILD I know but Human Imagination strikes again I can't help it it won't stop...

steveland?

I've just had another WILD Theroy... What if they are in a Virtual Reality Game... The year could be sometime in the not to distant future...

Haha, like Back To Reality in Red Dwarf

horseflesh

trishw78 wrote:

Theories as discussed on 'Lost Reveled' on E4 on Saturday nite:

1) Plane crash was a wormhole that lead to a different planet.
2) Island is like "Jurassic Park" and the surviviors are part of an experiment
3) Survivors are actually dead and are in purgatory.

Not sure about travelling to a different planet, but what about some sort of time travel???

trishw78 wrote:

a random woman says "I recognise that sound I've lived in the Bronks all my life and I know that sound"

Could she have been referring to the Bronx Zoo, and the familiar sound of one of the animals? Is the Bronz Zoo famous for any particular animal(s)?? I've been there, but I don't recall specific animals being more associated with it more than others.

stevoslice

maybe she was there in a past life?

the island i mean, not the zoo...

madrab

trishw78 wrote:

I then watched the first episode on E4 and noticed something I hadn't before as we hear the 'Gaint' destroying the forest a random woman says "I recognise that sound I've lived in the Bronks all my life and I know that sound" which also made me think why is it we only ever see it or here it in the rain... So heres my latest theory

Its a machine like a digger or something and it's the tracks on it grating against metal.

So that's my latest theory anyone else have any intersting thoughts ...

yeah noticed that the second time i watched the pilot
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=259717

angry_fox

If it was a digger wouldn’t they have come across its tracks? What fuel would the digger be using? It also moves to fast for it to be mechanical or man made.....

My theory (rubbish) is that thousands of years ago a huge alien space craft crashed into the ocean, they have sent out probes to capture animals from around the planet (explains the polar bear), over time geological features have developed around it and the inhabitants of the craft have been waiting, watching, preparing for something.

Another of my dumbass theories is that the inhabitants of the island are an advanced form of humans and that maybe the giant creature is a creature from the Paleogene period (Really big mammals were around back then) that have survived.

Anima

I'd say its fairly impossible to tell whats going on in the grand scheme of things after one season. I'm sure they'll try to milk it for a lot longer anyway.

The whole monster thing though is really interesting. I mean I have absolutely no idea what it is and I'm dying to find out

monkeyfudge

I was woken up by a JCB this morning. It sounded nothing like Lostzilla.

How about an underground rail system then? She would have heard that in the Bronx.

oxygen_old

Any one see it last night? A few clues

On part two of the pilot episode (if I remember correctly) we see Walt reading a comic book he found, that is in Spanish, with a polar bear in it. Later that episode we see the polar bear for the first time (and Lostzilla for that matter). This is after we see the polar bear in the comic book.

Last night Michael throws the comic book in the fire and it burns with the page with polar bear open. Walt looks at the polar bear intently as it burns, later that episode the polar bear re-attacks.

In the flashbacks we see Walt sitting in his house when a bird flies into the window and dies. Walt see this and then returns to his book. About brids.

Also Walts adoptive father doesnt want to look after Walt because he says "Theres something about him,things happen when he is around".

It could be that, even before coming to the Island, Walt has the ability to make things appear from his imaginination. Theres a couple of Stephen King books with a kid in them that can make things appear from his imagination. Not a bad read either.

trishw78

angry_fox wrote:

My theory (rubbish) is that thousands of years ago a huge alien space craft crashed into the ocean, they have sent out probes to capture animals from around the planet (explains the polar bear), over time geological features have developed around it and the inhabitants of the craft have been waiting, watching, preparing for something.

You and your bloody Alien theories I mean it it's getting outta control

oxygen wrote:

Last night Michael throws the comic book in the fire and it burns with the page with polar bear open. Walt looks at the polar bear intently as it burns, later that episode the polar bear re-attacks

In the revealed show during the weekend this was mentioned about the comic, we see the pictures in it and then we see the polar bear... But I agree there is something special about Walt.

It'd be easy to get the fuel on to the Island (under water/ground pipes) as they've not fully explored the island only a small part it could be the Area 52 of the Pacific. It exists but deny all knowledge and if these people survived on it then all any government has to do is deny that these people exist... It can be easily done...

Tzetze

Further to the point about "things happening when that kid is around", Locke was teaching Walt to throw a knife against a tree last night. After failed attempts, Locke told him to "picture it happening in your mind, before you try". When Walt succeeded on the next attempt, he said, (paraphrase) "I saw it in my mind, like I was watching it happen, and then it just... happened!"

Spooky kid!

mr_angry

There's a theory running around that Brian Porter was in league with The Others, or at least that he specifically wanted Michael and Walt to end up on the island. When you think about last night's episode, it makes a kind of sense. Why doesn't Brian bring Walt to America with him - why does he leave him at home with his nanny? Brian virtually forces Micheal to go to Australia, pick up Walt, and then get back on Flight 815. It was Brian who purchased the tickets, and he hands them to Michael in a very specific way that looks a lot like the way the psychic hands Claire her ticket.

The only thing that Brian doesn't predict out of this is Walt taking Vincent with him.

oxygen_old

It takes every ounce of strenght not to go out there and read the dozens on ep guides and spoilers out there on the internet. The internet must be 20% bigger since LOST began. How hard would it have been to broadcast all the episodes at the same time world wide? Not that difficult I would say.

trishw78

Tzetze wrote:

Further to the point about "things happening when that kid is around", Locke was teaching Walt to throw a knife against a tree last night. After failed attempts, Locke told him to "picture it happening in your mind, before you try". When Walt succeeded on the next attempt, he said, (paraphrase) "I saw it in my mind, like I was watching it happen, and then it just... happened!"

Spooky kid!

You see this is why I need to tape and rewatch the episodes thank God for C4 it's true you miss the little things the first time round like the comic and the woman saying the noise was in the Bronx

vibe666

oxygen wrote:

How hard would it have been to broadcast all the episodes at the same time world wide? Not that difficult I would say.

it would be impossible, not hard.

it's not the movies, where someone distributes a movie world wide and chooses when it's on in the cinema.

TV shows are touted by their producers and tv channels worldwide decide if they want to spend their cash on them, and when.

nobody knew if it was goingto be a hit or not until it was, and something like that is very hard to predict.

I've seen the whole of the first series, and it keeps getting better right till the last second believe me, but i've watched about a dozen pilots this year alone and about 90% of them never even get past the first episode.

it's all a gamble.

one things for sure though, I'll be right at the top of the queue when series 2 starts next year.
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trishw78

I'm begining to think that there is a connection between that comic and the happenings on the island but now that it's destroyed what will be the clues we get to what is going on who knows???

Chardee MacDennis

have to say those were the three worst ideas from all i have heard. and you hear the monster sound just as the plane is about to crash, so i reckon that where she heard the noise befor. and the monster sound is heard at other time rather than just in the rain.

trishw78

I never noticed before when the plane crashes... They maybe the worst ideas but I don;'t see you putting any ideas forward...

Chardee MacDennis

i didnt mean the ideas people put forward but the "3 best" they said on the show, i was watching it and thinking no they're not they're failry poison, they dont mention Govt experiments, the philadelphia/montauk experiment. many other things - i mean Jurassic Park? what...

also JJ said there are no aliens involved, they are not dead, and that THE? govt know about the island but dont neccessarily own it...

i dont think the comic holds much else but the fact it put the polar bear image in Walts head which may have made it appear.

remember when michael said he would go looking for vincent when it stopped raining and it instantly stopped raining. walt seems to have powers of some sort and i reckon thats why the others wanted him.

Washout

can some1 please delete that last post. theres some serious spooilage in there.

trishw78

Aw that clear up your previous post nicely... I do think there something special about Walt but what does Locke Know and how come he can walk I thought what ever it was, was incurable... the mind boggles

steveland?

Washout wrote:

can some1 please delete that last post. theres some serious spooilage in there.

Washout, it's been explained before that any thread containing US and SPOILERS in it is for discussion of things that have already been shown in the US, this means all the episodes... the whole point of the US thread titles was to remove the need for the spoiler tags...

If you haven't seen up to the last episode, as has been explained before in the sticky up the top of the page, don't click on it

trishw78

I take that was you that added the US and Spoilers to the thread I hadn't meant for there to any spoilers... But seeing as C4/E4 are behind us then it was a good heads up

Chardee MacDennis

trishw78 wrote:

I do think there something special about Walt but what does Locke Know and how come he can walk I thought what ever it was, was incurable... the mind boggles

well they never said anything specific about Lockes condition all we know is he is in a wheelchair for the last 4 years, may not be a physical condition or something. also how did Locke know Walt's and Hurley's name without ever being told. its odd... i think he has been touched by the island in some way..

Hannibal_12

My theory is that the Island in some way seems to manifest the fears of the people on it. The polar bear for instance seems to arise from the comic book that the child reads, a child which has been descibed by his adopted father as "different". Remember the flashback showing the child reading a book regarding birds and then suddenly one (the same species) flies into the window of the house. I imagine it developing along those lines.

trishw78

Children are always associated with weird things traditionaly in Horror movies 'Children of the Corn', 'Poltergiest', 'The Shinning' etc.... Can you tell I've been musing on this for quite some time... I've just though of the Disney film 'Witch Mountain' the first one not the second...

Chardee MacDennis

never seen that film, but walts imagination (or whatever it was) manifested iself before they got too the island ie. the bird, brian not willing to fly with him and saying he's different and also it hasnt manifested anyone elses fears and it has made locke better, also helped them find the cave with jacks hallucinations.

madrab

trishw78 wrote:

whats the odds on the camp getting attacked by a sunburnt penguin?

Washout

steveland? wrote:

Washout, it's been explained before that any thread containing US and SPOILERS in it is for discussion of things that have already been shown in the US, this means all the episodes... the whole point of the US thread titles was to remove the need for the spoiler tags...

If you haven't seen up to the last episode, as has been explained before in the sticky up the top of the page, don't click on it

ive seen them all...but my apologies my friend...didnt notice the US: tag in the title. my bad.

trishw78

Ok so I've been reading the Conspiracy theorys forum and my latest WILD theory is that there on the Lost island of Lemuria or Atlantis???

Yes I know WILD

Draupnir

My theory is that they are in the Bermuda Triangle. Thats near to Fiji and Australia.

Would explain the Black Rock and the planes and stuff. Also, weird stuff happens in the Bermuda triangle.

Fridge

trishw78 wrote:

Ok so I've been reading the Conspiracy theorys forum and my latest WILD theory is that there on the Lost island of Lemuria or Atlantis???

Yes I know WILD

Can you elaborate on that? I'm just wondering how it would explain what's happening with the people on the island.

Doesn't that French woman know where they are though? I mean weren't they sent to do an experiment there?


What sort of weird stuff happens in the Bermuda Triangle apart from aircraft stuff?

bringitdown

Bermuda triangle??? they are in the Pacific are they not?

trishw78

Fridge wrote:

Doesn't that French woman know where they are though? I mean weren't they sent to do an experiment there?

I thought they were blown off course/shipwrecked after a storm could be wrong

Edit:The Atlantis Theory is a mix between the wormhole & Bermuida Triangle theory, Kinda like Dinotopia

vibe666

you mean THIS bermuda triangle?


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oh, and the french team were on some sort of survey mission or something, and overheard the numbers being transmitted from the island, and as they went to investigate got shipwrecked.

or something.

mr_angry

I think you guys are missing the implied sarcasm in the original post.

trishw78

Lmao :):)

Lamia

I think the 'monster' might be some kind of biomechanical animal? Found this which connects the numbers to things I hadnt noticed:

WARNING CONTAINS SPOILERS
http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?threadID=463024

Still curious about the black and white stones found on Adam and Eve,there's a big good vs evil/faith vs science thing going on there. Hmmm...

fightin irish

Whats eating me is the hatch that locke found...I wreckon it will open up a whole new theory when we know whats in there. And locke telling Shannon ''we all get a second chance on the island'' What the hell does he know?? Maybe untill they all face thier fears, realise thier terrible ways//short comings...then maybe this will unlock a rescue or ...yes im loosing it now

Fridge

fightin irish wrote:

And locke telling Shannon ''we all get a second chance on the island'' What the hell does he know?? Maybe untill they all face thier fears, realise thier terrible ways//short comings...then maybe this will unlock a rescue or ...yes im loosing it now

Wherever they landed, they had a second chance anyway. Locke doesn't need to know much about the island to say that. They all have a fresh start with a clean slate. He got a second chance. He's just trying to boost morale. Or else he does know everything. Either is possible.

Fridge

What's the name of that black woman that went into shock a while back? Her husband was on the flight, I think and she said she knew he was alive. I bet he's alive on another part of the island. There must be more survivors. They wouldn't have had her say it if it wasn't significant.

tvnutz

Her name is Rose.

trishw78

Fridge wrote:

What's the name of that black woman that went into shock a while back? Her husband was on the flight, I think and she said she knew he was alive. I bet he's alive on another part of the island. There must be more survivors. They wouldn't have had her say it if it wasn't significant.

Maybe her husband is still alive but I assumed it was just shock she was in or back to one of the original theories of them being dead and she knew it. But that idea has been blow outta the water by know I think...

tvnutz

trishw78 wrote:

Maybe her husband is still alive but I assumed it was just shock she was in or back to one of the original theories of them being dead and she knew it. But that idea has been blow outta the water by know I think...

Ummm....

you sure about that! ^^