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Outer Ring Road to open within 3 weeks

  • 10-08-2005 2:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭


    Just to let everyone know.....

    Today's (Wednesday) edition of the News & Star has an article on the back page about the Outer Ring Road. It has indicated that this road will open within 3 weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Good.
    The sooner its open the better IMO.
    Somehow I have doubts that it actually will open on time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    Kick ass. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Road doesnt really look "near completion" in my mind. I honestly think that they should have been working on this 24 hours a day and got it finished before Summer started!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Good! I commute to/from Cherrymount to out the Cork road so its all I've ever wanted!

    As for 24hr constuction that would have been very easy to do with practically no-one living near the route but hey that would cost more in the minds of those who award the contracts.

    I've noticed how roads that appear to be nowhere near completion can be tidied up and finnish off very quickly.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭DéiseGirl


    mike65 wrote:
    Good! I commute to/from Cherrymount to out the Cork road so its all I've ever wanted!

    As for 24hr constuction that would have been very easy to do with practically no-one living near the route but hey that would cost more in the minds of those who award the contracts.

    I've noticed how roads that appear to be nowhere near completion can be tidied up and finnish off very quickly.

    Mike.


    Very true.

    The opposite is also true of course, especially in Tramore :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭helibelly


    any ideas when they might put a bridge on one end so 90% of the traffic could go around Waterford rather than through it! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    :D Set your clocks for about 2010! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Overture


    so anymore on when this road is due to Open ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    I believe the City Council are now saying end of September... They are awaiting another contractor to install the footpaths and lighting. Why they just couldn't let coffeey construction do the whole job is beyond me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    I've been told the dead line for the finish is 15 Sept '05

    sssshhh I'm in the know

    The extra footpaths, cycleway & road lighting were an after thought... So the job had to to tender...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I go "through" the ring road at Six Cross Roads most days on the way home and had noticed nothing much was happening except the installation of road signs including speed limits which is set at a pathetic 60 KPH. 37 MPH!

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    The first 3KM is being lined as we speak

    Edit: Just 'cause you can't see stuff happening doesn't mean it's not happening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Overture


    Hey Trish - you do seem to be in the know - so the 15th of September and i can kiss goodbye to the Nightmare that is the Folly every evening ? U sure about that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    mike65 wrote:
    I go "through" the ring road at Six Cross Roads most days on the way home and had noticed nothing much was happening except the installation of road signs including speed limits which is set at a pathetic 60 KPH. 37 MPH!

    Mike.

    Pretty pathetic all right, although if you can go to and from work at 37mph, it'll at least be an improvement...

    Are there proper exits? Or are there just a serious of roundabouts at the major roads? (I know, me and my high ideas...)

    Single carriageway or dual?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    Dual Carriageway, and as far as I am aware just standard roundabout's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    overture: I'm pretty sure... Thats the lastest deadline I've been told anyhow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    Does anybody think it bizzare that this road is going to have a speed limit of 60Km/h when the old Tramore,Airport and other roads linking it are set to 80Km/h. Especially considering that this is going to be a much safer road.

    Only in Ireland!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    Bards wrote:
    Does anybody think it bizzare that this road is going to have a speed limit of 60Km/h when the old Tramore,Airport and other roads linking it are set to 80Km/h. Especially considering that this is going to be a much safer road.

    Only in Ireland!!!

    Well considering there'll be a roundabout every 200 yards, you wouldn't be able to build up much speed anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    well not quiet as close as every 200 yards.. more likely equivalent to the distances of the kilkenny ring road, and that has a speed limit of 100 KM/h and the roads off it are set to 50KM/h


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    You can bet your bottom dollar that the cops will be taking up residence for a few weeks after opening picking off the unwary.

    Mike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    I've driven that road quite a bit and you can get a fairly decent speed up between each roundabout


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I wonder have the "powers that be" given any thought to the level of traffic which will get caught up at the traffic lights outside Heitons and at the Browns road junction? A lot of cars going to the Cork road will be turning right, back to the industial estate. I see looooooooooong tailbacks.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Dac51


    mike65 wrote:
    I wonder have the "powers that be" given any thought to the level of traffic which will get caught up at the traffic lights outside Heitons and at the Browns road junction? A lot of cars going to the Cork road will be turning right, back to the industial estate. I see looooooooooong tailbacks.

    Mike.

    Yep, I was just thinking of that when driving past Hasbro today. I can see long tailbacks at the Industrial Estate exit opposite Sheridans, the Industrial Estate exit at Brownes Road (I think the Cork Rd traffic lights need to be adjusted for this) and the Ballybeg / Heatons junction where traffic will turn right off the Cork Road and up the hill to the Butlerstown Roundabout.

    I hope the City Council have thought of this and are preparing to adjust the relevant traffic lights before the new road opens or else it is going to be a traffic nightmare every morning and evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    I heard (pure rumour) a section of that road was going to be closed & only used for business & local traffic for a few months to get people to use the ORR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    From today's (Thursday's) Irish Examiner
    ===============================
    TWO neighbouring local authorities are kilometres apart on the speed limit they are imposing on a busy stretch of roadway leading to one of Waterford’s top seaside resorts.

    Next week members of Waterford City Council will be asked to approve an extension of the 60km speed limit two kilometres further out the main road to Tramore, which currently has a 80kmph limit.

    The county council is pushing ahead with plans to introduce by-laws increasing the speed limit on its section of the same road from 80kmph to 100kmph.

    A revision of the speed limit is taking place within the city boundary to coincide with the opening of the Outer Ring Road, scheduled to take place on September 30. The limit on the 6.8km of dual carriageway will be 60kmph.

    For safety reasons, it has been decided to slow traffic down as it approaches from 80kmph level to 60km. That limit will continue to the vicinity of Superquinn when it will reduce further to 50km per hour.




    Tramore Town Councillor, Ben Gavin, said the local authorities should have sat down together to work out a compromise on the road.

    He said he was not surprised by what happened.


    =======================================================
    I wonder, when Martin Cullen performs the opening cermony, what are the chances he'll announce the contract fot the City Bypass?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭Trotter


    Any close bets on when the opening ceremony will be? 15th Sept. seems to be the consensus so far.

    Bards wrote:
    From today's (Thursday's) Irish Examiner
    ===============================
    TWO neighbouring local authorities are kilometres apart on the speed limit they are imposing on a busy stretch of roadway leading to one of Waterford’s top seaside resorts.

    Next week members of Waterford City Council will be asked to approve an extension of the 60km speed limit two kilometres further out the main road to Tramore, which currently has a 80kmph limit.

    The county council is pushing ahead with plans to introduce by-laws increasing the speed limit on its section of the same road from 80kmph to 100kmph.

    A revision of the speed limit is taking place within the city boundary to coincide with the opening of the Outer Ring Road, scheduled to take place on September 30. The limit on the 6.8km of dual carriageway will be 60kmph.

    For safety reasons, it has been decided to slow traffic down as it approaches from 80kmph level to 60km. That limit will continue to the vicinity of Superquinn when it will reduce further to 50km per hour.




    Tramore Town Councillor, Ben Gavin, said the local authorities should have sat down together to work out a compromise on the road.

    He said he was not surprised by what happened.


    =======================================================
    I wonder, when Martin Cullen performs the opening cermony, what are the chances he'll announce the contract fot the City Bypass?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Next week members of Waterford City Council will be asked to approve an extension of the 60km speed limit two kilometres further out the main road to Tramore, which currently has a 80kmph limit.

    The county council is pushing ahead with plans to introduce by-laws increasing the speed limit on its section of the same road from 80kmph to 100kmph.

    Brilliant! The Tramore road should be 100 from the ring road and 80 within. The ring road should be 80.

    As for the Heitons/Ballybeg junction lights, my partial solution would be to turn the junction into a oneway system. Traffic would only be allowed to turn into Ballybeg Drive from the east (no right turn from west) and NO traffic would be allowed to leave Ballybeg Drive and would have to join the ring road near the 6 Cross Roads roundabout instead.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Dac51


    As for the Heitons/Ballybeg junction lights, my partial solution would be to turn the junction into a oneway system. Traffic would only be allowed to turn into Ballybeg Drive from the east (no right turn from west) and NO traffic would be allowed to leave Ballybeg Drive and would have to join the ring road near the 6 Cross Roads roundabout instead.

    Mike.[/QUOTE]

    I actually come from this area and this wouldn't be acceptable. There is a new housing development being built 150 yards from this junction combined with traffic coming from / going to Ballybeg. Preventing traffic from exiting this junction would cause uproar and rightly so, as having to detour on to the ring road would be as they say a bit irish.

    Dac.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Any news? They still hav'nt put lines down on the section from Six Cross roads to Cork road.

    Mike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    September 30th is the offical opening according to Waterford City Council


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    More slippage. :(

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭kilkennycat2004


    mike65 wrote:
    You can bet your bottom dollar that the cops will be taking up residence for a few weeks after opening picking off the unwary.
    Mike.

    drove it the other night & its going to be difficult to stay below 60 kph on it IMHO.
    Anyway got a name for it yet. "Cops paradise" possibly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    outerringroadthursday1.jpg

    outerringroadthursday2.jpg

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    hopefully half the city will be out trying the new road tomorrow so i can get home in less than 20 minutes. traffic has been brutal this week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Hey Mike, which road is the ring road crossing in the picture? Is it the tramore road?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 847 ✭✭✭mickger


    deise59 wrote:
    Hey Mike, which road is the ring road crossing in the picture? Is it the tramore road?

    Looking at the pic it looks like the tramore road,tramore to the right,city centre to the left and dumore east and passage east straight ahead.i think lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Yep thats correct, I took the piccy off the Lacken Rd bridge. I hope they remember to remove everything - like that digger claw on the right hand edge in the top photo!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Open Day: Today at around midday!

    Nows your chance to kill Martin!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    Lets hope he has some good news re a confirmed start date for the City Bypass!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Dsc00079.jpg

    about 15 mins ago.

    Mike.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Any pics? What he say?!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    You know whats going to happen now don't you?
    "Ah sure it'll be dead if we go through waterford instead of the new road so it'll be faster" and then everyone does it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Martin Cullen said work will start on the bypass early next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭kano476


    What I'll never understand is why the first small section at ardkeen wasn't built a dual carridgeway like the rest of it.

    Tramore road needs to be upgraded to dual crridgeway the traffic on it is going to become rediculous in the next couple of years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Right a few observations - why is it a dual carraigway when the max speed is 60 kph? The only thing we'll be overtaking is tractors!

    No hard shoulder, not clever.

    No lighting beyond the roundabouts which might be suprising given its length.

    Some questionable signings, and names ie the Old Tramore road is'nt named as such.

    The Cork road roundabout will proberly need a set of traffic lights before you know it, it certainly needs two lanes on the approach from Kilmeaden, there was a tail back at 2 pm I'll be interested to see how bad it gets at say 8.30 am and 5pm.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    There will be lighting the full length of the road including footpaths and a cyclelane in both directions. According to the City Council it should be in place in a couple of months (read next summer.)

    60KM/h is too slow.. shoud be at least 80KM/h.. maybe a petition to the City Council/local representatives might persuade them.

    Traffic Lights on roundabouts are not a good idea. It is either a roundabout or a traffic controlled junction, not both. One only has to look at the mess that is the Mad Cow Roundabout on the M50 or the Kinsale Roundabout on the Cork Southern Ring to see what I mean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    How does one find this new road from the industrial estate?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Dac51


    Bond-007 wrote:
    How does one find this new road from the industrial estate?

    At the Industrial Estate exit by the AIB turn right. Follow the road to the traffic lights at the Cork Road. Turn right again. Go straight on through the traffic lights at Heatons. Keep straight past all the car showrooms. Just past the Ramada hotel you will come to a roundabout. Take the first exit and you are on the new road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    ...Martin Cullen is promising the earth! Well he says both the by-pass and the southern section of the Waterford-Dublin road will begin next year! I heard on the local news that no firm start date has been penciled in for the latter. This came from the Michael Egan of the NRA! So is Cullan talking up prospects just to give the local media something to print?

    He also talked about a third bridge to link Dunmore road to south Kilkenny (or
    Waterford City North as it'll be by then!).

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    The southern section of the motorway has not been approved yet by an bord planeala... They are due to give their decision this month (October 18th to be precise). Apparently the Carlow bypass is due to start June 2006 as part of the motorway hence his insistence that the motorway will start next year.


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