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How do motorcyclists survive (or not)?
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ninja900 wrote:A quarter mile isn't much - you'd need more like half a mile of perfect visibility or more, at that speed you're covering a mile every 24 seconds :eek: ...
Your probably right, its not something I've ever done. The fastest I've been (and not in Irl) is about 140 in a Porsche and I wasn't driving. But I can tell you at that speed in a convertible you really have to hold on to the Map.
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Nothing would come of it so what's the point?tk123 wrote:murphaph did you report it to the police or anything?!?!
Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.
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Best to get it out of the way early on and without injurymurphaph wrote:I was sort of expecting it but not quite so soon.
Average age of bikers, or average age of killed bikers?Seamus - it's the same in in the UK.
MCN survey last month had the average bikers age as late thirties.0 -
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This is something that annoys me.seamus wrote:Average age of bikers, or average age of killed bikers?
In a situation like this the average can hide as much as it reveals.
E.g. let's say that the average age of riders killed is 30, for the sake of argument. 1 guy who is 100 getting killed will increase the average appreciably. The same sort of thing would happen if one kid of 12 got killed on one of those bloody minimotos used illegally on the street (only a matter of time, have these parents got rocks in their heads?)
Averages can be meaningful when you have a large sample size and ideally little derivation from the mean. When you can have a lot of variation, especially with a small sample size then it's not really that meaningful. Most journalists don't understand statistics, but then it seems most of the public and most of the politicians don't either so they just use them to support whatever position they already hold.
A good example of the misuse of statistics is the question - why is there no Direct Access in Ireland? The real reason is that they can't organise holding the simple driving test we have now, never mind a more difficult one, and the unions run the show.
The answer that the Department of Transport will give you, if you ask, is that the fatality rates of young motorcyclists are too high. Now, they're perfectly right, the rates are much too high. But the statistics they use to justify this are for under-18s on 125cc bikes or smaller (and 99 times out of 100 they'll not have undergone any proper rider training.)
This has no relevance at all to Direct Access - under the EU directive this is for riders over 21, on bikes over 45hp, who have undergone a course of professional instruction.
Sorry for wittering on but it's this sort of cr@p that makes biking in Ireland such a joy Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.
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Victor wrote:The mean and average ages
The arithmetic mean is the average.
For a lot of things it would be more useful to quote the mode.Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.
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