Team of the Championship....so far

KingEric

I know its a bit early for picking the team of the championship, but i thought i'd get a bit of debate going on the forum. So here is my team of the championship so far, based on the games i've seen. Feel free to make your own suggestions.

1. Hearty (Armagh)
2. Mc Menamin (Tyrone)
3. Mc Carthy (Kerry)
4. Lacey (Donegal)
5. Tomas O' Se (Kerry)
6. P. Clancy (Galway)
7. Kernan (Armagh)
8. Gallagher (Donegal)
9. Toal (Armagh)
10. Munnelly (Laois)
11. Coulter (Down)
12. Geraghty (Meath)
13. Bradley (Derry)
14. O'Neill (Tyrone)
15. Cooper (Kerry)
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1. James Reilly (Cavan)

He's made some really amazing saves, the only goals he's conceded have been because of some awful cover by the defence.

The forwards are a very competitive area. I'd probably try and find some space for Alan Brogan and Mattie Forde, but it's hard to know who to drop.

thewools

aw now king eric!!! Surely your missing a few!!

O neill (Tyrone)for a start...

Personally i think the lineout basically should just be the Louth team :eek: to be perfectly honest! Still in the qualifiers...unlike alot of other teams!!!

Monaghan the weekend!! Could be another shock never know!!!

Louth for SAM.....LU ABU!!!!!

KingEric

wooly69 wrote:

aw now king eric!!! Surely your missing a few!!

O neill (Tyrone)for a start...

Check the team again wooly69, O'Neill's in there at full forward...

The way the qualifiers have been going i wouldn't write off any team, not even the mighty Louth!!

It was a toss up between Reilly and Hearty in goals, and i just chose Hearty cos he's conceded less goals!! I know that Reilly was badly let down by his defence on occassions.

digiman

wooly69 wrote:

aw now king eric!!! Surely your missing a few!!

O neill (Tyrone)for a start...

O Neill is in at full forward, unless he edited since you looked at it.

Its hard to improve on that team at the minute, sure there are loads more candiates and you will find that these will relpace Lacey and Gallager who were excellent for Donegal this year, but as sad as I am to say they will soon be forgotten now that Donegal are out.

As far as Louth beating Monaghan, that would go down as the biggest ever shock in the history of the GAA.
Although I am not going to rule it out, Louth are probably on the crest of a wave at the minute after winning 2 games back to back, confidence is bound to haved picked up so you never know, especially if Monaghan go into the game thinking it will be a walk in the park. They could get a small shock, but to be honest can't see it happening.

thewools

KingEric wrote:

Check the team again wooly69, O'Neill's in there at full forward...

Yes my mistake....monday mornings!!!

KingEric

digiman wrote:

..........sure there are loads more candiates and you will find that these will relpace Lacey and Gallager

I expect there to be a lot more candidates after this weekend especially with the Dublin/Laois game on, with the likes of Brogan playing. Not sure if the Monaghan/Louth game will produce many candidates though.

digiman wrote:

As far as Louth beating Monaghan, that would go down as the biggest ever shock in the history of the GAA.

I'd hardly call it the biggest ever shock now.. Monaghan beating All-Ireland champions Armagh in 2003 would be a contender for that title. No doubt Monaghan will be favourites but Louth have proved the bookies wrong already this year....

Lemlin

I'd go for Reilly over Hearty. If Cavan go far enough in the qualifiers, he'll be a definite contender for an All-Star I'd say. He's already made some cracking saves and has saved 2 out of 3 penalties.

blackbelt

im surprise nobody has mentioned the best damn goalkeeper in ireland...stephen cluxton (Dublin)

here are mine

ross munelly )laois)
stephen cluxton (dublin)
Redmond Barry (wexford)
Tomas o se (kerry)
ciaran mcdonald (mayo)
Jason Sherlock (Dublin)

conjon

blackbelt wrote:

im surprise nobody has mentioned the best damn goalkeeper in ireland...stephen cluxton (Dublin)

here are mine

ross munelly )laois)
stephen cluxton (dublin)
Redmond Barry (wexford)
Tomas o se (kerry)
ciaran mcdonald (mayo)
Jason Sherlock (Dublin)

what has cluxon done to be considered in the team of the championsip so far? mcdonald was poor when needed yesterday.

joe higgins of laois is back to his all star best.

cournioni

blackbelt wrote:

im surprise nobody has mentioned the best damn goalkeeper in ireland...stephen cluxton (Dublin)

You are joking right?! :eek:

blackbelt

no pornapster im not joking.I wouldn't have posted otherwise.

He is a great goalkeeper.rarely makes stupid mistakes.when he gets the ball he is able to outrun the opposing forwards,look up pick out a man and get the ball out of there.he does this better than any other goalkeeper in ireland.that is partly why dublin are in leinster final.I would urge the dublin supporters to post and back me up on this.great goalkeeper.

ciaran mcdonald had a bad day but he is a strong player.usually the man tackling falls to a heap on the ground when trying to run with him.mcdonald seems to be able to shrug them off with one arm and it looks like a piece of cake.muneelly is always in the right spot at the right time,good passing.

jason sherlock....8 or 9 times out of ten will dig dublin out of trouble.tomas o se...great performance in munster especially against cork.colm cooper good player.always taking risks and getting away with it.

Lemlin

Stephen Cluxton! You have to be joking. He's been beaten three times in two matches despite having a good backline. And I don't know about you but I've seen absolutely no shop stopping from him that was worthy of a mention.

And Sherlock! He was taken off against Meath because he was ineffective and he came on to score an important goal against Wexford but that was about it. Point being Dublin management didn't even think he warranted a starting spot so how the hell could he get into the team of the championship if he can't even get into Dublin's starting 15!!?? I think we've a case of another Dublin supporter seeing things with Dublin-tinted glasses here.

As for McDonald, the point of this topic is the team of this year's Championship so far. Past performances don't count and, on this year's showings, he definitely doesn't deserve to be in the team. He was very poor Sunday for a player that Mayo depend on so much.

Waylander

And you never see that from a cavan man. I actually agree though. While I think Cluxton is one of the best keepers in the country, he was very casual on the ball against Wexford, and this could have cost him dear. In seasons past I would have had him in the team, but he will need to redeem himself a bit before I'd consider him this year.

KingEric

Your right there Lemlin, this topic is "Team of the Championship..so far". Nobody is picked based on past reputations or what they are capable of doing. The team is based on performances so far in this year's championship.

McDonald had a good game against Roscommon, but was poor against Galway mainly beacuase he was so well marked by Clancy.

It always great to see the dubs with their totally un-biased views! :rolleyes:
Cluxton has done nothing this year to impress me, whilst Sherlock has not being consistent at all. But i'm sure if they win on sunday, the dubs will be calling for the total 15 should be made up of dublin players...

Waylander

One Dub has made a couple of suggestions. Cop yourselves on, or are Dublin fans not allowed any opinions anymore? If you do not want Dubs to contribute to a thread maybe you should put that in the initial post!

cournioni

blackbelt wrote:

He is a great goalkeeper.rarely makes stupid mistakes.

when he gets the ball he is able to outrun the opposing forwards,look up pick out a man and get the ball out of there.he does this better than any other goalkeeper in ireland.that is partly why dublin are in leinster final.I would urge the dublin supporters to post and back me up on this.great goalkeeper.

To be a great goalkeeper in Gaelic football you need to have the following things:

1. The ability to catch a ball
2. The ability to win a high ball under pressure
3. The ability to kick the ball to the other end of the pitch and vary the kick outs
4. Good distribution during play
5. The ability to stop a ball
6. Command of his area and the defence

I think that there are at least 5 goalkeepers in Ireland better in these areas (except maybe shot stopping) than Cluxton.

KingEric

Supporters from all counties are welcome!! Everybody's entitiled to thier opinion. Only getting trying to get a bit friendly banter going here. But it just seems that the dubs always see things differently to the rest of the country..

Waylander

Like I said Porn, in previous seasons I have thought him up there with the best of them, using your criteria which I think are fair enough. This season though he has yet to put in as good a performance as I have come to expect from him. As for Lemlin, you say Cluxton should not be in as he was beaten 3 times in two matches, yet the Cavan keeper was beaten 3 times in one match but you feel he should be in. Good to see a level of consistency employed.

Lemlin

Well you don't see any Cavan fans (or any other supporters for that matter) coming on here announcing that players who can't make our starting 15 should be in the team of the Championship. To say Sherlock should be, is just plain stupid. And even you yourself agree that Cluxton shouldn't. If any Dublin player should be I'd say Brogan but there have been better forwards.

That's why I made my comment about Dublin-tinted glasses. Some Dublin fans just can't see past Dublin. You obviously can but the post above is a perfect example of someone who can't. I didn't have to urge other fans to come on and support my post about James Reilly, they already were because everyone in Cavan realises what a revelation he's been.

As for his shotstopping, don't forget he let in two against Antrim in the replay too but my god are we glad to have him. Watch any Cavan game this year and you will see that, the majority of the time, when Reilly is one on one against any forward he'll save. It would have been six or seven and not three goals against Tyrone if it hadn't been for him.

He saved penalties against Donegal and Antrim too. And twice when Tyrone forwards were through on goal against him in the first game, he made fanastic saves. Not to mention one he made against Donegal last week. His kickouts are also very long and created the goal against Tyrone. He is easily the best goalkeeper that Cavan have had in years and its only his first season.

cournioni

He's up there with some of the best, but he is certainly nowhere near the best like blackbelt said. I would probably rate him as the sixth best keeper in Ireland at the moment to be honest and I think that is a fair enough rating for him.

I think James Reilly from Cavan is definately the goalkeeper of the year so far. I don't think I've seen a keeper like him since Mickey McVeigh was on top form. He has made six cracking saves in Cavan's games so far in the Championship this year. He has also made two penalty saves that have kept Cavan's championship hopes alive and he has directly contributed to a Cavan goal against Tyrone with one of his massive kick outs that landed roughly 35 yards from opposition's goal! The Tyrone supporters were in absolute awe at him which is a great compliment to the guy.

I think Lemlin's comparison is that for the amount of time that Cluxton has been involved in play he hasn't really impressed. Where as Reilly has had a number of saves to make and has saved the majority of those.

Anyway, here is my team of the Championship so far:

1. Reilly (Cavan)
2. McMenamin (Tyrone)
3. Bellew (Armagh)
4. Higgins (Laois)
5. T. O'Se (Kerry)
6. Clancy (Galway)
7. Jordan (Tyrone)
8. D. O'Se (Kerry)
9. McKenna (Cavan)
10. Munnelly (Laois)
11. Brogan (Dublin)
12. T. Freeman (Monaghan)
13. Cooper (Kerry)
14. O'Neill (Tyrone)
15. Bradley (Derry)

KingEric

Anybody see any more candidates in the last few weeks for this team?

2 more candidates for midfield anyway - From what i saw of the Dublin/Laois game, Clancy had a good game. And McGrane for Armagh has played well in the two good games against Tyrone.

Agree/disagree? or any further suggestions...

Lemlin

If Dermot McCabe keeps playing like he did against Donegal and Meath, he could be a late contender, despite his poor start to the Championship.

River Allow

Lads, what about Anthony Lynch of Cork, he surely deserves a place!

tommo25

Sherlock gave higgins a roasting at croker .
with 10 minutes to go you could see higgins was wrecked!

Aiden Fennelly is a good outside bet for an allstar if laois can get a bit further in the championship

shakaman

Don't know if I agree about Paul Clancy at centre back, he's only played one game there and while it was a good one vs Kieran MacDonnell would like to see him prove himself on a regular basis.....and that's comin from a Galway man who play's against Paul! If anyone has watched brendan Egan in action for Sligo, he's done v well.

And I reckon Paddy Christie/Paul Griffin would have to get the nod ahead of Bellew and Higgins.

The Rooster

Paddy Christie is not having the best of years and I fear he's past his peak, so I dont think he's a contender yet. Still he is a very good full back and a man of the match performance against Stephen O'Neill in the quarters would swing things strongly his way!

Griffin and O'Shaughnessy on the other hand have both been really good in the championship so far (after mediocre league campaigns) so I think they're both contenders for a corner back slot. I believe Barry Cahill has been as good as any centre back so far this year, so he's a genuine contender too.

But it really won't be until after the quarter-finals, when certain players will stand up and others will be exposed, that everyone could have a real go at naming the best XV of the year.

Yavvy

here is yet another biast Dublin opinion...

stephen rea carlow
Barry Cahill Dublin
Stephen O Shaughnessy Dublin
Bryan Cullen Dublin
O Neil Tyrone
O se Kerry
Clancy laois
a couple of lads from derry and cavan too but im terrible with names


obviously I have seen more of the dubs than anyone else so hence I see their good qualities

blackbelt

pornapster and lemlin you say that im a typical dublin "tinted glass" supporter because i said Cluxton was deserving of the place in 15.

but pornapster aren't you a "tinted glass" cavan supporter saying O reilly should be in the top 15.he got beaten twice in the same match against antrim.and your location being cavan totally gives it away too :rolleyes:

i can definitely see past dublin as far as talent goes...colm cooper,ciaran mcdonald,tomas o se,anthony rainbow,redmond barry,peter canavan and then retired players magnus lally(donegal),donal cullity and colm o rourke(meath) who would have got into starting 15 of the best one any given season.and yeah some of those players are part of teams who got their asses kicked but deserve to be in a starting 15.

ponapster as far as your 6 needs goes, cluxton does well in 1,2,4,5. 3 is his downfall and 6 i can't comment on.he pulled off some great saves in the leinster final.

as far as jason sherlock goes,yes he was subbed in the meath game but seriously redeemed himself against wexford and scored some great points against laois.Did you not see that point he scored using his basketball skills to tip/punch the ball over the bar....while going up against the keeper.just because you don't start in the first 15 doesn't mean a player is crap.

you accuse me and dublin supporters of not being able to see past dublin,well i challenge you on the issue of this yourself with cavan.my opinion of cluxton is just as warranted as yours of Reilly so quit contradicting yourself

River Allow

I completely agree with pornapster and Lemlin. Jason Sherlock is good, granted, but not near as good as some other footballers. Dublin, they just have pride, I think, and because of this, can't see past their own county, bit like Cork really... woops

cournioni

blackbelt wrote:

pornapster and lemlin you say that im a typical dublin "tinted glass" supporter because i said Cluxton was deserving of the place in 15.

but pornapster aren't you a "tinted glass" cavan supporter saying O reilly should be in the top 15.he got beaten twice in the same match against antrim.and your location being cavan totally gives it away too :rolleyes:

ponapster as far as your 6 needs goes, cluxton does well in 1,2,4,5. 3 is his downfall and 6 i can't comment on.he pulled off some great saves in the leinster final.

my opinion of cluxton is just as warranted as yours of Reilly so quit contradicting yourself

First of all I never said that you were a "typical Dublin 'tinted glasses' supporter", but I do think that as far as your team of the championship goes you are just picking your favourite players in some instances. Cluxton had two good years in 2002 and 2003 but I think he hasn't reached that kind of form since. I am not saying he is one of the worst, in fact far from it. But he is certainly not one of the best this year.

So Reilly got beaten twice against Antrim, he also made three great stops against Antrim over the two matches. He made five unbelievable saves against Tyrone over the two matches there (one of them was the best I've ever seen in a Gaelic Football match). He made two class saves against Donegal to keep Cavan in the Championship. He made two class saves from Joe Sheridan against Meath, both at vital stages in the game. He has saved two penalties from four in the championship so far. He has one of the biggest kick outs I've ever seen from any keeper (landed one on the oppositions "D" which set up a goal against Tyrone at a vital stage in the match where they had just equalised. He's very good under a dropping ball. The guy is on fire at the moment and I think that anyone who has seen him play will agree that he is one of the best around.

Now please tell me what Cluxton has done this year to warrant an All Star ahead of Reilly... :cool:

Waylander

Porn, Blackbelt has a point. If any other poster nominates payers from there county there is never an eyebrow raised, If a dub does it he is ridiculed, particularly by Lemlin. I have not seen Reilly enough this year to say you are wrong, but I know he has conceded more goals then alot of the keepers still remaining in the championship, Cluxton included. River allow, in another thread someone had a go at Mc Carthy from the Cork team and you were full of indignation at this. Alot of posters here apply one set of standards to Dublin fans and another set to all other fans.

cournioni

Waylander wrote:

Porn, Blackbelt has a point. If any other poster nominates payers from there county there is never an eyebrow raised, If a dub does it he is ridiculed, particularly by Lemlin. I have not seen Reilly enough this year to say you are wrong, but I know he has conceded more goals then alot of the keepers still remaining in the championship, Cluxton included. River allow, in another thread someone had a go at Mc Carthy from the Cork team and you were full of indignation at this. Alot of posters here apply one set of standards to Dublin fans and another set to all other fans.

Well in fairness I think some of his nominations have been quite strange to say the least, I mean I think that there are far better players than Sherlock and Cluxton that he hasn't given a mention. I think that Dublin should have two players there or there abouts on the All Star team so far and that is only right as they've won Leinster. Any more would be getting a little tinted I think.

As far as Reilly's goals conceeded goes. You just have to look at the amount of chances to goals. I think you'll find it is something like 19 (chances):7(goals). And you have to remember that two of those were penalties. I doubt Cluxton has had 19 genuine shots on his goal so far in the championship. As a matter of fact I'd doubt that he has had eight shots on his goal.

Culchie

Shotstopping, although of course critically important, is only one aspect of good goalkeeping.

I think Cluxton will be seen in 10 years time as one of the greatest keepers of the GAA, I think he marshalls and organises the defence, has a great (and accurate) kick out, is brave and has a safe pair of hands as well.

Hearty has impressed me (a neutral) the most this year, as regards this thread for team of championship so far.

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Culchie wrote:

Shotstopping, although of course critically important, is only one aspect of good goalkeeping.

I think Cluxton will be seen in 10 years time as one of the greatest keepers of the GAA, I think he marshalls and organises the defence, has a great (and accurate) kick out, is brave and has a safe pair of hands as well.

Hearty has impressed me (a neutral) the most this year, as regards this thread for team of championship so far.

The only thing I wouldn't say Reilly is better than Cluxton at (at least this season) is organising his defence. He's not as 'involved'. Brilliant kick-outs (goal against Tyrone came from one of his that landed on the 21 for Jason Reilly), absolutely fearless and the few times he has been called on to catch a high ball, he's been excellent. And he is a natural shot-stopper as well. Cluxton hasn't particularly impressed me this season (so far), but I would definitely say that the two of them are the top two keepers in the country. Don't know about Hearty. Haven't seen him do too much right, but haven't seen him make mistakes either, his defence is excellent so he doesn't get much of a chance to shine

Lemlin

Waylander, I may have been hard on him but it had nothing to do with the fact that he was a Dublin supporter. It had to do with the fact that he made two very silly points.

First off, there are four or five keepers in the championship this year who could be put ahead of Cluxton this year (he's a good keeper but this year he has not done anything to prove he deserves an All-Star). Reilly had another great game against Mayo yesterday (apart from one stray kick out) but I fully expect the position of goalkeeper to go to Hearty who has been fantastic for Armagh.

Secondly, no sane person would argue that Jason Sherlock has been one of the best 15 players in the Championship. If any Dublin players should be in the team, it would be Barry Cahill or Stephen O'Shaughnessy. In fact, I'd even argue that Cahill should go in ahead of Paul Clancy in the selected 15.

If a Cavan supporter came on here and said that Nicholas Walsh and John Tierney should be in the team of the championship, I would ridicule them just as much.

Read any match programme or paper though, and Reilly has been singled out in every game for his brilliant displays. That's what warrants being considered a player of the championship. Have you heard Cluxton mentioned often this year for having brilliant displays for Dublin?

Waylander

We will see how many pundits include him in their teams at the end of the season, I am thinking none will!

Flukey

He may have conceded 3 goals, but the Sligo keeper, Philip Greene, made some great saves and didn't put in a bad performance. A long way off an All-Star place, but good nevertheless. Cluxton is good. John O'Leary would have had an influence there. O'Leary was a great keeper, but he had one great flaw in his game, which was his habit of making short passes in defence. It cost Dublin a lot of points over the years. Short passing in defence is always a bad idea. Get the ball out as far as you can. It is better to lose the possession way out the pitch with a wayward clearance, than close in, as oftens happens.

cournioni

Waylander wrote:

We will see how many pundits include him in their teams at the end of the season, I am thinking none will!

No one is doubting that, because all of the pundits will only go for the ones who put in good performances on live telly and Cavan have only had one live game out of seven. If Cavan had three or four of those live on tv then I have no doubt that he would be there.

Flukey

That is part of the problem. A lot of great players are out early in the season. The league doesn't have as much impact in the selection and players normally aren't at their best then anyhow. A lot of poor teams are out of the championship, but they've brought a lot of good players with them.

Lemlin

I have no doubt that Reilly won't be mentioned for an All-Star. This post is about the team of the Championship SO FAR though and I think he or Paul Hearty are the two genuine contenders I've seen.

For all I know Cluxton could perform out of his skin for the Dubs next three games and end up deserving an All-Star. At the moment he has done nothing to warrant one though.

And, like I said above, I would not listen to another opinion from anyone who is stupid enough to consider Jason Sherlock for the team of the championship on his performamnces so far.

But, as with Cluxton, he could score ten goals in the next three games and win the championship for the Dubs. His performances so far though have been inconsistent to say the least.

CCOVICH

I think that for his display in the first game against Armagh alone that Brian McGuigan should be considered. Sheer class. A very different number 11 than Ciaran McDonald, but just as good to watch, if not better. Pains me to say it, but Aaron Kernan should be considered as well.


Paddy Bradley's younger brother (Eoin I think?) has been pretty impressive so far as well.

With regard to goalies, Hearty's kicking was awful in the replay against Tyrone and was nowhere when Micheal Coleman was through on goal. AFAIR, Cluxton's kicking was woeful in the last 15-20 minutes against Laois. He is an excellent shot stopper on his day, but in general I would say Hearty is a better keeper due to his huge frame and intimidating presence.

Was delighted to see Karl Lacey and Big Neil Gallagher mentioned at the start, but I'm sure they will have faded from memory by the time September comes around.

Lemlin

Kiernan is named there and he'd be in my top 5 players of the Championship so far. A definite contender for player of the year if he keeps going. I'd imagine he's already got the young Player of the Year award wrapped up though.

Waylander

Lemlin I agree with you that neither of those players (Sherlock & Cluxton) should be included. However, your attitude that anyone who had a different a opinion to yourself is either stupid or barking mad grates on my nerves, actually it is just ignorant!

Lemlin

Nope, I argued with one person's view because it was stupid. If someone makes a downright ludcrious statement, then I will have a go at them.

If someone makes a valid point, then I will make my point and argue for it. How is that ignorant?

Waylander

Surely it is no more stupid then you continually saying a keeper who has conceded as many goals as the Cavan keeper (6 in total I think, possibly the most out of any of the keepers remaining in the championship before the weekend), is the the keeper in the championship to date. You should really respect other peoples opinions, even when they differ from yours, then your opinions might get a bit more respect.

Lemlin

We've already acknowledged the fact that Reilly has let in alot of goals. But, as pointed out by Pornapster, he has made more saves than any other championship goalkeeper probably.

Cluxton has a good backline and has to make few saves. Even against Meath, when he was nowhere to be seen, it was Barry Cahill who stopped the ball on the line while Cluxton looked on anxiously after flapping at the air and falling over (the Indo the following day got a great picture of this).

That is what we're judging him by. James Reilly has continually kept Cavan in games with his shot stopping. Could the same be said of Cluxton?

As well as that, every Cavan fan who has seen Reilly play has backed me up, you may say that is because we are biased but you don't here us mentioning any other Cavan player, just the one who we feel deserves a mention.

Do you see other Dublin supporters backing up the person who mentioned Cluxton? No, you don't because they too see how Cluxton has not proved himself in this year's Championship.

Trojan

Cluxton is a fantastic goalkeeper, sending-off aside. I think he's the best thing since JOL.

Waylander

Lemlin I am merely pointing out I think it is ridiculous for you to criticise a man who put forward an opinion for a solid keeper, when you are supporting the goalkeeper who has let in more goals then anyone else remaining in the championship at this stage. Yet you are calling his choice stupid. I have already agreed that I personally would not have Cluxton in there, I would not have Reilly either, and I am sure very few people from outside Cavan would, yet I do not think that it was any more ridiculous a suggestion then yours. I guess what I am saying is if someone puts forward a suggestion and you disagree fine, but do not try ridiculing someone just because their opinion differs from yours.

Lemlin

If you look at my abive posts correctly, I did not ridicule him for picking Cluxton. I ridiculed him for picking Jason Sherlock.

"No sane person would even consider Jason Sherlock" - Lemlin

He made his argument for Cluxton and I've made my argument against. The ridiculous statement I was talking about was picking Sherlock, perhaps you misread it and thought I meant picking Cluxton.

That said, I still wouldn't agree with anyone arguing that Cluxton should be on the team based on his performances so far.

The only Dublin players I'd consider would be Cahill and O'Shaughnessy.

And how exactly is Cluxton solid? He let in two goals against Wexford, was lucky not to let in two against Meath and wasn't tested in either of these matches as well as the Laois match? Therefore I don't see how he is solid so far this year.

Compare the statistics of how many shots he has had taken on him vs. Reilly (if you can get those anywhere) and you'll see what I mean.

blackbelt

lemlin you said i made stupid points but i think you do ridicule me because im from dublin and made a point that differs from you and i thank waylander for backing me up.Cluxton is a solid gaolkeeper.and yes he was tested aginst laois.if you watch a tape of that match you will see!!

so just because cluxton let in 2 goals against wexford means he's not deserving...but wait....one of them was a penalty (which he saved at first).that is typical of something you would say because you mentioned some of the goals scored against reilly were penalties.

cluxton is very good defensively and is good at taking his time,looking up and picking out a man to get the ball out of defense.reilly let in some goals against Antrim ffs!!! and lets compare antrim and wexford shall we??

I do think sherlock is somewhat deserving of a place because he came on aginst wexford and saved dublin with the goal and showed great athleticism and used his basketball skills to score points (esp vs laois).and lemlin i am totally sane.

so to say my opinions are stupid is just a total cop put on your part.cyyaavan are gone now and he let in a lot of goals in the matches leading up to mayo....so thats like you saying he's crap but he should be in the 15...thats nonsense and totally unjustified.maybe you should be thanking the cavan defense and their forwards for scoring the goals and the points that brought cavan so far!! and its not all about shotsaving as mentioned earlier.the way you post on this forum...criticising my opinion...who the hell are you...a gaa guru??.... get real