Best Bike for a VIP

528i

ok, I'd like some suggestions as to which motorbike to buy

Requirements ;

Very Fast, (gsxr-750 = pants ?)

Cool & Trendy, (whats hip and happening in the biking world thesedays ? )

Reliable (are Ducatis considered unreliable ?)

Easy to ride,

Budget €7,500 up

It's probably best not to start out on something like a turbocharged Busa, but I reckon I could handle a CBR900/ZXR1200 kinda thing, obviously wont be ripping the sh|t out of it starting off and none too concerned about draging knees or hanging 2mm from corner apexes etc., so touring spec is fine- once its jaw-dropingly quick in a straight line.

No BS 125cc 'starting out' suggestions please

seamus

528i wrote:

but I reckon I could handle a CBR900/ZXR1200 kinda thing

That's the kind of attitude that people here are going to criticise you for.

If you've never driven a bike, I'd suggest a Bandit 600 or a GS 500. For at least a year anyway. If you've not passed the test, the chances of you being able to get anything bigger is minimal anyway.

Curran

528i wrote:

It's probably best not to start out on something like a turbocharged Busa...
No BS 125cc 'starting out' suggestions please

Is this your 1st bike?
If it is.....i was informed that you have to start on something 250 or less for 2 years before you can get a "MONSTER BIKE" (well anything over 250)

I may be wrong......i was told that.....so i said sod that im not getting a 250 or less.......hence i have no bike

528i

From what little I know about bikes, Bandit 600's are considered a small bit gay I think.. I have driven a 250 honda racebike, abit stiff and highly strung and the vibrations were something wicked, a 600 shadow cruiser type bike, smooth but not shocking fast- maybe a with 1200 engine?, and a gsxr 750 (that I was scared into not driving quickly by its owner).

I was told a 30yr old could get insured on just about anything, even under the same car insurance policy for 500quid extra or something. I've forgotten he details now because im drunk.

I'd definitely forget about the whole thing if forced to start out on some piece of crap, but this whole 'restriction' things a joke right ?

KTRIC

From what I can get from this is that you are looking for a bike to pose on and show off to your mates. You don't exactly have good rep around here with the biker crowd so i reacon you best stick to your car.

peasant

There you go:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=241803

Plenty fast enough not to embarass you
Enough cc's to brag about
Added safety features like abs and traction control ...so you're a little less likey to fall off in your first bend

And reliable too

Should be right down your alley

Supercell

Hmmm, bikes dont come wrapped with seatbelts and a nice crumple zone like cars do.

This post is basicaly you asking the best way to commit suicide, cop on..
Cool & Trendy, (whats hip and happening in the biking world thesedays ? )

These are the words of someone that shouldnt be on the road on two wheels

Get back in your car and leave the bike to people that appreciate that riding a bike requires a sense of self preservation..the roads will be safer without you, i'm not joking.i see fair weather biker riders a lot at this time of year and they do cause deaths on the road.....stay in your car and stay the fup away from bikes.

Curran

K-TRIC wrote:

From what I can get from this is that you are looking for a bike to pose on and show off to your mates. You don't exactly have good rep around here with the biker crowd so i reacon you best stick to your car.

OOOHHHHH...........cant wait to see 528i 's reply to this one......should be interesting

tk123

K-TRIC wrote:

You don't exactly have good rep around here with the biker crowd so i reacon you best stick to your car.

VIP = very IRRITATING person in this case!!!

Curran

528i wrote:

Cool & Trendy, (whats hip and happening in the biking world thesedays ? )

His kids must be calling him old and boring!

tk123

Curran wrote:

His kids must be calling him old and boring!

sure getting a bike will show them all that he's still got it! :rolleyes:

EDIT - and mods before you give out he called me gay for being a girl one time!

Curran

tk123 wrote:

sure getting a bike will show them all that he's still got it! :rolleyes:

EDIT - and mods before you give out he called me gay for being a girl one time!

AH HA....so hence the

I am a girl. Not everyone on boards is a guy. Calling me a sissy/gay/nobjockey etc is not an insult to me COS I AM A GIRL!!!!!

Supercell

Fupping summer bike riders...bah..welcome to the most dangerious time of year on the roads...

January rain, sleet , frosty, ice ect is scary for the biker but ..at least you can see it coming..the summer biker hasnt a clue about indicating..about lanes ..about brakes.....hasn't ever had lessons...

Ihate this time of year, had several close shaves this evening on the way home..all were other biker related..grr....

Curran

Get a 3 wheeler like Billy Connelly

Least then you wont have to think about balance....one less thing to think about when riding!

528i

peasant wrote:

There you go:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=241803

Plenty fast enough not to embarass you
Enough cc's to brag about
Added safety features like abs and traction control ...so you're a little less likey to fall off in your first bend

And reliable too

Should be right down your alley

if thats a joke then I don't like your sense of humour. Pan European's are for 90yr old geriatrics with bladder problems and robocop delusions.

ok, before this thread gets locked, I must apologise to anyone I had offended in whatever previous whatever.. I cant remember, anyway, its nice to see so many concerned for my wellbeing - don't worry, I wont crash, and is this the wrong forum to be asking because everyone drives sad little 125s or scooters or whatever ?

Ok forget everything ive said, how about we approach this from a different angle,

You're a biker with nigh on 16years exp., joey's got noffin on you, you want a bike, thats better than everyone elses, which one ?
joey dunlops probably a bad example because he's dead, but I cant think of any others..

Curran

First he apologies and then in the next line throws a dig back in........hmmm.......sincere apology!!! :rolleyes:

Fabritzo

You're probably right with a zx12r, have honda injected the cbxx yet anyone? The gsxr1000 is the quickest sports bike at the moment.

528i

that's basically the a toned down (not by much) rizla race bike ? is it abit uncompromising, would it hurt your goolies over cobbled streets ?

it certainly looks nice.

Fabritzo

It's probably faster than last years rizzla bike, if not as fast, 160hp at the wheel anyway, a mate just got the 600(same bike smaller engine), it's one of the more civil sportsbikes on the road. If yer about Dublin next weekend, Skerries roadracing is on, go up and have a gander.

Curran

528i wrote:

would it hurt your goolies over cobbled streets ?

it certainly looks nice.

Thought you wanted a MANS bike?.........hhmmm.....someone wants a lil bite of a softies bike!!

peasant

I see you got the joke ...

right then ...how about this then?
http://www.buell.com/en_uk/products/firebolt/xb12r/index.asp

not THE fastest bike, but certainly one of the most exotic and unusual, while still loud and fast enough

seenashow you like being talked about

528i

Curran wrote:

Thought you wanted a MANS bike?.........hhmmm.....someone wants a lil bite of a softies bike!!

naw, extremely well hung is all, I'm told there's bullet proof titanium crotch protectors also so that could be worth investigating..

Skerries ? sounds good, I'll have to get with the lingo and mingle there pretending like I know a thing or two about bikes. long would it take to get to terms with and learn how to 'be_at_one' with the rizzla bike ?
Its probably mad money anyway, those race replicas usually are, duke 999R is something like €25k new !! im sure the chicks would love ya.. but hey, thats crazy money.

Skerries is pretty much an isle of mann TT setup then ?

lol, a 'firebolt XB12R' is something I never even knew existed, lets put a cap on that budget of say €15k before everyone gets carried away

looks well in red though, but where's the hot-chick pillion seat facility :eek:

jiffy

Curran wrote:

Is this your 1st bike?
If it is.....i was informed that you have to start on something 250 or less for 2 years before you can get a "MONSTER BIKE" (well anything over 250)

I may be wrong......i was told that.....so i said sod that im not getting a 250 or less.......hence i have no bike

Sorry but you were given totally wrong information there

If you have a provisional Category A licence then you can ride a bike <34 BHP or with a power to weight ratio below a certain limit. Most 250's blow the 33BHP limit but the insurance companies and Gardai turn a blind eye in many cases to a bike that puts out 40HP.

If you want to you can ride a Hyabusa on a Provisional as long as you get it restricted to 33bhp.

Once you've past your test you are have the same restriction for a further two years then you can ride what you like unrestricted.

Curran

jiffy wrote:

Sorry but you were given totally wrong information there

If you have a provisional Category A licence then you can ride a bike <34 BHP or with a power to weight ratio below a certain limit. Most 250's blow the 33BHP limit but the insurance companies and Gardai turn a blind eye in many cases to a bike that puts out 40HP.

If you want to you can ride a Hyabusa on a Provisional as long as you get it restricted to 33bhp.

Once you've past your test you are have the same restriction for a further two years then you can ride what you like unrestricted.

Oh yeah..........was told that too..........but forgot the minor in's and out's of it all!....remember the guy saying that 250 is <34bhp.........thanks for clarifying that.........will be on two wheels in a few years time then.......when i mature a lil a know i wont act the gobsh*te on it.......maybe about 10 years so!

528i

jiffy wrote:

If you want to you can ride a Hyabusa on a Provisional as long as you get it restricted to 33bhp.

or you can pretend like its restricted and record 15minute videos from galway to dublin for the internet

peasant

ok ..here's the last joke for today :

A bike, "manlier" isn't possible ...(after all, it's camouflage) and with room for TWO chicks

http://www.ural-motorcycles.com/nf/uranger/

even got a machine gun mount ...you can blast everybody else off the road

And it falls into the "restricted" category ...speed would be a problem, though...

jiffy

528i wrote:

From what little I know about bikes, Bandit 600's are considered a small bit gay I think..

I'd definitely forget about the whole thing if forced to start out on some piece of crap, but this whole 'restriction' things a joke right ?

Well you may as well forget it then. You ARE restricted to 33BHP for 2 years after you pass your test so as you put it you'd have to start out "on some piece of crap", where you got that idea from I don't know, there are lots of great bikes that fit within the restriction and lots of bikes that you can get factory or aftermarket restrictors for that will get you through.

You've offended just about every biker on here in that post. There are a lot of Bandit riders out there and they are damn fine machines, I'm not one of them as I'm lucky enough to have been riding for 16 years and can afford to own and run an HRC RC45.

Since you don't have a licence and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about I'd steer clear of bikes. With your attitude you'll be have embedded yourself into the back of a truck before you get to apply for your test.

jiffy

528i wrote:

or you can pretend like its restricted and record 15minute videos from galway to dublin for the internet

Only if you want to end up in court. Those video's are self incriminating !

528i

ok, I apologise for offending bandit owners etc. before all 2 of them come on here and go exceedingly menthol or whatever. It were a fello biker bud who made the statement/suggestion in passing, obviously completely wrong - they are of course brilliant starter bikes. Now. can we talk about something a tad livelier and non restricted, and just pretend the law doesn't apply to uberpanzer party vips.

hey peasent (i love this guy), 'evidently fear is not a factor for you' - ohh the shame of riding that ww2 yoke lol - / runs and hides

KTRIC

528i wrote:

uberpanzer party vips.

Do you mean you are a big fat tank ??? If so then you might find driving a race bike a bit awkward.

jiffy

528i wrote:

Now. can we talk about something a tad livelier and non restricted, and just pretend the law doesn't apply to uberpanzer party vips.

Lol, if you want to talk livlier and unrestricted, this is my weapon of choice !



It runs a full HRC wiring harness, ignition system, exhausts, airbox and igntion map. It's dyno confirmed at 152Bhp and if you have an area and the balls to do it, you can go from 0 -160kph and back to 0 again in 5 point something seconds or just keep going to 320Kph. Is that lively enough for you.

I just use it to get to work and back

peasant

528i wrote:

hey peasent ... 'evidently fear is not a factor for you' - ohh the shame of riding that ww2 yoke lol - / runs and hides

There's a guy in Germany converts these yokes to a 1000 cc Hatz diesel engine (also to be found in mini diggers and the like)

In some weird, distorted and unrational way I'm severely tempted to get one of those .

Get the sidecar bolted on to the other side, adapt it so it can safely contain the dogs, engage side car drive shaft and awayyyy through the fields :cool:

Or maybe just away with the fairies? Who knows ...

KTRIC

jiffy wrote:

Lol, if you want to talk livlier and unrestricted, this is my weapon of choice !



It runs a full HRC wiring harness, ignition system, exhausts, airbox and igntion map. It's dyno confirmed at 152Bhp and if you have an area and the balls to do it, you can go from 0 -160kph and back to 0 again in 5 point something seconds or just keep going to 320Kph. Is that lively enough for you.

I just use it to get to work and back

MMmmmmmm, that's f**kin' nice, I think I just shorted my mouse with drool.

drdre

guys this 528i guys is 1 weirdo.he has no life he keeps appologising and then doing the same s**t. this thread should be locked and let him do his own research.;)

Curran

jiffy wrote:

you can go from 0 -160kph and back to 0 again in 5 point something seconds or just keep going to 320Kph. Is that lively enough for you.

Ah id keep going to 320Kmph........and then to 0 again to see how long that takes!
No fun in just going to 160Kmph......keep her wide open!

Fabritzo

Yeh sure that's barely second gear, still four more to go :P

Curran

Fabritzo wrote:

Yeh sure that's barely second gear, still four more to go :P

And just as you change into forth gear......you remember what your mother always said about wearing clean underwear...........damn...i just sh*t myself

Victor

How about one of these bad boys?

Curran

Victor wrote:

How about one of these bad boys?

Yip.....definately what 528i needs.......fits all the criteria (image below too)
VERY FAST
COOL & TRENDY
RELIABLE
DEFINATELY EASY TO RIDE

AND

WELL WITHIN BUDGET......so he can spend the extra cash on some nice modifactions!!!

PS....no restrictions either.....you can go as fast as you possibly can....the skys the limit !!!

528i wrote:

ok, I'd like some suggestions as to which motorbike to buy

Requirements ;

Very Fast, (gsxr-750 = pants ?)

Cool & Trendy, (whats hip and happening in the biking world thesedays ? )

Reliable (are Ducatis considered unreliable ?)

Easy to ride,

Budget €7,500 up

It's probably best not to start out on something like a turbocharged Busa, but I reckon I could handle a CBR900/ZXR1200 kinda thing, obviously wont be ripping the sh|t out of it starting off and none too concerned about draging knees or hanging 2mm from corner apexes etc., so touring spec is fine- once its jaw-dropingly quick in a straight line.

No BS 125cc 'starting out' suggestions please

jiffy

Lmao

echomadman

I hear psycho bikers are giving us all a bad rep, confirm/deny.

would you not consider keeping it in the family and getting one of these

after all, you dont want anyone to think you'ld caught the gay and developed a taste for garish pokemon-esque rice burners would you

The Termignator

Ducati ownership is ruled out to you on two grounds: you won't get a proper one for less than 15K; and you obviously haven't attained the social standing necessary to become a member.

And who cares about this reliability shyte? If it breaks down, we call a fella in greasy overalls to fix them...or just buy a new one.

I suggest one of those lurid-coloured, old-skool Honda RC45 yokes pictured above as a start-off machine. Look, it even comes with stabilisers.

Ratchet

get BMW bike it will go with your car and you will be famous within to wheel BMW gay club. Purchase will include 10 page instructions allowing you to check the oil.

great bikes

rabbitinlights

528i wrote:

don't worry, I wont crash

What a stupid thing to say, you want to jump onto a really fast bike without any proper experience and your that confident? I know bikers who have 12-13 years under them and they are not that confident......... Id personally love to see you trying to handle a 900+ on a windy connemara road......

S.

spockety

528's original posting is almost enough to make me backtrack from the thought that 33bhp restriction is not a good idea. He almost single handedly manages to make it suddenly seem like in fact, it is for the greater good if it keeps muppets like this off two wheels. In fact, I'm almost tempted to print out his posting, and send it into the department of transport, with an accompanying letter thanking them from the bottom of my heart for introducing the 33bhp restriction.

On the other hand, I'm pulled in the direction of wishing there was no 33bhp restriction, so he could go out and buy his CBR900 (which he can handle no bother), and lamp it around the first tree, to get him off this board and off the roads as a bonus.

As for Bandits being gay.. haha.. it's not the bike, it's the rider. No offence to any homosexual's on the list, but 528, you'd be gay no matter what bike you were on. Especially with your (no doubt) matching colour coded leathers with the "HONDA HRC" logo stitched on the back to match your Repsol Fireblade. You'd find fellow gaylords tearing strips off you on Bandit 600's. Hell, I'd say there are a fair few B250 riders out there who'd tear strips off you on a Busa no matter how many years practice you put in.

It's not the bikers on the board that have been offended or pissed off by 528, it's pretty much everyone else as well. 2 wheels, 3 wheels, 4 wheels, 8 wheels, 16 wheels, it's safe to say he's annoyed them all.

Good luck with your purchase, don't forget to budget for Harris rearsets, Titanium end can (oval of course, for more ground clearance), and a single seat conversion.

I'm sure I've been sucked in by a Troll here, but I don't really mind, it's been fun replying.

528i

Well I'm glad you had fun replying and got all that stuff off your chest.

For future reference, can the sub-600cc riders brigade please refrain from airing your thoughts and inadequacies on this thread, we've heard it all before - start on an embarrassing little moped/125cc, then a 250, then a 400, then a 600 then you're too old to give a sh|t and buy a pan european because its got a heated saddle for your hemorrhoids or whatever.

That RVF sounds like its in a highly stressed state of tune so is probably unusable for anything other than track racing rather than a typical afternoon jaunt through the wicklow mountains. Anything high maintenance or the motoring equivalent of a maxxed out saxo I'm just not interested in.

It must be relatively modern with cutting edge design & technology and that all important *wow* factor outside trendy cafes etc. It will not be used during hurricane season in connemara bogs or wetlands or whatever the hell is in connemara and indeed probably wont ever even get wet, as strangely enough I have little desire to wade around doing drenched rat impersonations like a pizza delivery boy.

So it's either the Duke or BMW (which, truth be told got me interested in the first place)? Surely there's an enthusiast amongst you sporting something more substantial and meaty over a typical smash 'n grab screaming jap monkey bike who could conceivably lure (or even raise the eyebrow of) a fashion conscious guru such as myself ?

What about obscure Italian manufacturers such as Moto Guzzi, or are they crap ?
What's crap and what's not, or does anybody here even know ?

causal

528i wrote:

I'd like some suggestions as to which motorbike to buy

Very Fast, (gsxr-750 = pants ?)

but I reckon I could handle a CBR900/ZXR1200 kinda thing

No BS 125cc 'starting out' suggestions please

From what little I know about bikes, Bandit 600's are considered a small bit gay I think..

I was told a 30yr old could get insured on just about anything, even under the same car insurance policy for 500quid extra or something.

I've forgotten he details now because im drunk.

I'd definitely forget about the whole thing if forced to start out on some piece of crap, but this whole 'restriction' things a joke right ?

Pan European's are for 90yr old geriatrics with bladder problems and robocop delusions.

don't worry, I wont crash,

and is this the wrong forum to be asking because everyone drives sad little 125s or scooters or whatever ?

or you can pretend like its restricted and record 15minute videos from galway to dublin for the internet

At first I used to think 528i was a moron; then I thought maybe it was just his particular sense-of-humour; whatever the case - with some of his recent postings and also this thread imho what is certain is that he is bringing this forum into disrepute.

Maybe I'm taking this too seriously - but recent threads on this board have highlighted the poor image some people have of bikers. Rightly or wrongly we bikers will take responsbility for our own actions.

But when non-bikers are spouting nonsense as per 528i's posts in this thread (and many other threads) what he's doing is systematically reinforcing a negative sterotype and negative image of bikers.

As a biker, a driver, and a boards user I find that type of behaviour unacceptable. imho he needs time to cool-down and revaluate his reasons/motivation for using boards.

I'm posting this publicly because anyone reading this thread who isn't a regular on the forum should understand the background to 528i posts - i.e. he is not a biker and he does not represent the views or bikers; and any negative images he may have created should reflect on him, and him alone.


causal

batman_oh

just one total lie i have issues with!
there is no way an rvf750 goes from 0-160kmh-0 in 5 secs
full power or not they weigh about the same as a small tank
200mph is pure bull**** too, what a ridiculous lie
standard rvf750s put out 95bhp at the back wheel and wud struggle to keep up with an old 600
full power is 150 at the crank, about 130 at the wheel and how u expect somethin with that kinda power, lardy weight and the aereodynamics of a small skyscraper to hit 200mph i dont know
fastest road bike ever tested in this test in mcn was the gsxr1000 which does 0-160 in 5.0 secs and takes 5 to stop, this is with brand new state of the art tokico radials and radial master cyliner while the rvf sports reject 400 nissin brakes
thats 10 seconds 0-160-0
the rvf wud be left for **** by a gsxr1000
buried
wud be lucky to get to 100mph in 8 seconds, with the gearing that has always been bemoaned as **** for take offs and road use, but hey u probably dont even notice while u drive around in lala land
dont foster a lie to create an image
its a bit stupid
and b4 u claim i know nothing i own the rvf400 and have always been interested in v4's
im not raggin on the rvf750, its a stunning piece of engineering, but u seem to have confused it with the nr750 in your dreams somewhere
stop lying
and go look up the history of your bike

spockety

528i wrote:

Well I'm glad you had fun replying and got all that stuff off your chest.

For future reference, can the sub-600cc riders brigade please refrain from airing your thoughts and inadequacies on this thread, we've heard it all before

Actually, I ride an SV1000.

Started on an 80, then a 125, then a 250, then a 400, and then a 600.
Thankfully I started early enough that haemmeroids aren't a problem for me by the time I've reached 1000cc. It's unfortunate for you that your anus is going to be an issue for you right from the off, as Aprilia RS50's don't really have the kind of bum support someone of your age will need.

Should have started on bikes earlier, old chap!

J.

528i

I was abit dubious about that 200mph busa_turbo'esque figure also, but didn't like to question it or the awestricken salivating audience and run the risk of another topic tangent or top-speed big swinging mickey contest that could bring the forums into disrepute and/or give bikers a bad name.

I have since bought a Honda 90 at the bargain 'buy it now' price of €72 on ebay, so I'm now officially 'A Biker'.

Keep those suggestions rolling in biker buds, and the best ones will be entered into a free honda motorcycle raffle

causal

528i wrote:

I have since bought a Honda 90 at the bargain 'buy it now' price of €72 on ebay, so I'm now officially 'A Biker'.

Poincaré once remarked that an accumulation of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house.
Similarly 528i, you can buy the Honda motor company, and Yamaha, Suzuki, Ducati and all the other manufacturers - but it won't make you a biker.

causal