Today I saw a classic and took a pic thread!

charlieIRL

Blue850 wrote: »

look at the angle on the corners of the rear screen

don't think thats it.........compare the reversing light location.

Max_Damage

I saw an '85 MG Maestro EFi today in Sandyford. It was on pre-'91 type plates. Looked to be in good condition. They are as rare as hen's teeth nowadays.

No picture unfortunately though.

macautos

This red car is a Corolla ke70 LIFTBACK .
Probably around an '82 model with the mirrors like that .

Same as the blue car posted above .I know someone said it about the reverse lights being different to the red car . But the blue car is from a dutch Toyota meet if i remember rightly ,so thats why it is different . Most of the Corolla ranges down through the years have different lamp styles depending on location .ie. uk/irl ,australian ,jap etc.etc and whether they are levin ,trueno or sprinter model .

The lamp in the red picture above is that of a uk/irl KE70 liftback .
Also the main thing that sets it apart is the rubber/ glass at the bottom of the rear window . The way it kicks up at an angle at each corner . On the rear screen of a KE70 SR coupe the bottom rubber is straight across .
So to me it is definately a Corolla KE70 LIFTBACK .

Here a picture below .It was the best i could find .Also note i had to flip it ,thats why the badges and petrol flap etc are all backwards :rolleyes:

alastair

macautos wrote: »

So to me it is definately a Corolla KE70 LIFTBACK .

Case proven there I reckon!

carchaeologist

alastair wrote: »

Case proven there I reckon!

Indeed!!Award for the best detective work this month goes to macautos!!:P

Blue850

Thanks macautos, I was sure I was right especially when those who disagreed couldn't come up with an alternative;)

Max_Damage

Medal is in the post!

Anan1

Golf GLD on the N11 near Bray today, saw him again this evening on the seafront in Dun Laoghaire. Apologies for the blurry photo, the car was excellent and was quite possibly being driven by the original owner.

carchaeologist

Anan1 wrote: »

Golf GLD on the N11 near Bray today, saw him again this evening on the seafront in Dun Laoghaire. Apologies for the blurry photo, the car was excellent and was quite possibly being driven by the original owner.

Nice original golf!NZY reg makes it early 1981 louth.

Dades

No time for a pic - but I was very excited to see a silver Aston Martin DBS pass by on the other side of the road to me near Glenageary.

Don't remember ever seeing one before in Dublin. My fave Aston!

Here's one I didn't see.

superboy

There was a lovely DBS at Terenure this year (didn't get a pic). and there was a different one there last year
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee203/Crushanator/Terenure%2007/DSC02132.jpg

I'd have to agree that it is the loveliest Aston.

Capri

Golf GLD on the N11 near Bray today, saw him again this evening on the seafront in Dun Laoghaire. Apologies for the blurry photo, the car was excellent and was quite possibly being driven by the original owner

They still make the Mk l Golf alongside the Mk Vl Golf in SouthAfrica http://www.vw.co.za/models/citi/ ,prices start at € 6,400 !!!!! in SouthAfrica http://www.vw.co.za/models/citi/pricesandoptions/ Seen a red ( 04 ? ) Mk l Golf around Dublin - main difference is the grille and front bumpers

trevorbrady

Capri wrote: »

...prices start at € 6,400 !!!!!

and end at €21k + once landed here, VRT'd etc.

http://www.cosyclassics.ie/index_files/markonegolf.htm

http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14455

carchaeologist

trevorbrady wrote: »

and end at €21k + once landed here, VRT'd etc.

http://www.cosyclassics.ie/index_files/markonegolf.htm

http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14455

Yes,makes it a little overpriced compared to a 2 year old golf!!

Max_Damage

There is a few Citi Golf's here, seen a '97 and a '00 around Dublin.

Sure the VW T2 is still made in Brazil (there is a 06-D one doing the rounds here in Dublin), and the Peugeot 504 is still made for the Kenyan market!

zilog_jones

AFAIK production of the 504 stopped in 2005 in Nigeria (and Kenya the year before). There's a '04 Beetle that seems to be permanently residing in the car park in Arthur's Quay in Limerick - kinda weird considering production ended in '03 though I guess it's possible it could have been unregistered for a year.

trevorbrady

A chap near Kildimo, Co. Limerick personally imported half a dozen old bugs from Mexico just before production ended. They were mostly base model red ones but he managed to get in one Ultima Edicion (last edition) model in the light blue colour too. He got them over to sell them here and I reckon he was probably sitting on a couple of them for a while waiting for buyers. Hence the delay in registering.

Capri

and end at €21k + once landed here, VRT'd etc

ROR (RipOffRepublic again ! )Go to UK, buy scrapped 77 Golf, reg it here with €40 classic duty and get ZV plates, then go to SAfrica, buy same coloured (07 ? ) Mkl golf and put on ship ( €1,500 to UK port ), collect from UK port, drive to Stranrare, boat to Larne, drive down to your house, swop plates and chassis plates, BINGO - 07 Mkl fully 'legit' for €9k (?).
These 'Importers' and the Revenue are charging you ( €10k? ) over the real value of a Mk l Golf? If you brought it into the UK, you might only pay (£!,000 ? ) tax !!!!

Friend of mine years ago wanted to import a 3dr Cossie , £3k VRT said the revenue, "How much for a 4dr Cossie?" £600 said the Revenue - "Why the extra VRT ?" " 3dr is more classic than the 4dr "!

The VW Type2 'Kombi' is still in production in Brazil - http://www.vw.com.br/default.asp

peasant

Capri wrote: »

swop plates and chassis plates

1 weeks ban for advocating illegal activities

Max_Damage

^ Is that really illegal? I've seen it done to Land Rover Discovery's (on ZV plates) and Range Rovers.

Max_Damage

What I'd like to know is how these cars (i.e. original VW Beetle, VW T2, VW Citi Gold, etc.) get registered in this country, given the lack of safety and emissions features these cars have with respect to their modern years.

carchaeologist

Max_Damage wrote: »

^ Is that really illegal? I've seen it done to Land Rover Discovery's (on ZV plates) and Range Rovers.

Its not illegal on landies,well,if its done right poeple swop the entire chassis,thats perfectly legal.A friend of mine has done it to his 83 range rover,swapped the chassis to an earlier one,and got a ZV number.

trevorbrady

Max_Damage wrote: »

What I'd like to know is how these cars (i.e. original VW Beetle, VW T2, VW Citi Gold, etc.) get registered in this country, given the lack of safety and emissions features these cars have with respect to their modern years.

granted, the "new" old VW bugs, buses etc don't have the airbags, crumple zones, side impact bars etc like modern cars but in terms of emissions, the old air-cooled engine in the lasdt of the bugs had electronic fuel injection, a catalytic convertor and a bunch of other stuff to keep the emissions down. I wouldn't imagine there would be much problem there.

I suppose if you look at it, they're no more dangerous for the drivers than motorbikes and there's no problem buying one of those round here. (is there even an NCT for bikes?)

trevorbrady

carchaeologist wrote: »

Its not illegal on landies,well,if its done right poeple swop the entire chassis,thats perfectly legal.A friend of mine has done it to his 83 range rover,swapped the chassis to an earlier one,and got a ZV number.

I think this is legal because (like in VW beetles) the CHASSIS bears the registration number and VIN and the body is removable and considered "spare parts". I.e. you can swap any body you like onto a chassis so long as the VIN and reg numbers remain with the chassis.

I'm doing that on my bug project, '55 bug shell on '72 bug chassis and keeping the '72 reg number. It won't look right to anyone who knows how to read the reg numbers but how many of those folk are about and am I really bothered?

I think there would be legality issues if the '55 VIN and reg number were to be swapped onto the '72 chassis (i.e. cutting the VIN off the chassis and rewelding). You'd wonder why though, it's kind of academic in the case of old vehicles. In terms of new cars though, there's criminals making a living from "ringing" cars like this...

Blue850

But lets be realistic, how many ZV'd Range Rovers are genuine chassis swops?
Whos going to check? A lad I work with was driving his newly cleared MK1 Cortina home from the customs still on it UK plates ,last UK tax disc from 1990, insured on the phone but no cert/disc, got stopped at a checkpoint and the first the guard said was " I suppose this yoke is exempt from everything!"
I know of one person advertising for an Irish tax book for a particular car he has imported.

carchaeologist

trevorbrady wrote: »

the CHASSIS bears the registration number and VIN

It won't look right to anyone who knows how to read the reg numbers but how many of those folk are about and am I really bothered?

point 1: Yep,the chassis bears the reg no,same as the beetle,if you go cutting the vin out of one car and welding it into another then you are breaking the law.But it seems to go largely un-noticed when it does happen.

point 2: im around!!:P;)
but you are right,99% of the people wont spot it:)

carchaeologist

Blue850 wrote: »

I know of one person advertising for an Irish tax book for a particular car he has imported.

Yes,ads like this occasionally come up in the vintage magazines. I have a tax book for a 77 MK2 escort with a nice reg with just 2 owners on it,and iv been offered a tidy few quid for it before(wont sell it though).

The stupid new 5 digit ZV plates only made this problem worse IMO.

Max_Damage

I was thinking there yesterday (while we're on the topic of registrations), come 2017, when an '87 car will be 30 years old, I wonder if they will be eligible for a ZV plate (or whatever the variant will be then), as this is when the current system was introduced.

carchaeologist

Max_Damage wrote: »

I was thinking there yesterday (while we're on the topic of registrations), come 2017, when an '87 car will be 30 years old, I wonder if they will be eligible for a ZV plate (or whatever the variant will be then), as this is when the current system was introduced.

If the current set up is still operating i would say yes,i have my doubts if it will though.
What happens when registration numbers start to overlap...

1275gt

spotted this beauty in carrickmines this morning