would you still call green day punk?

drummer 666 · 21-02-2005 1:46pm #1

I'd call them pop punk, if that exist's..there older stuff is more punk, but there new stuff..its different if ya know what I'm talking about?

bombidol · 21-02-2005 1:57pm

the new stuff more rock if you ask me. the earlier stuff was pop punk.

dregin · 21-02-2005 1:58pm

I dont really care what they sound like, now or in the past. I'd still call them punk. They're goin against the grain with their pop ditties but they're still putting relevant lyrics into the songs. I've seen 'em 5 times and they've never failed to put on a great show. Saying that I think I've moved away from the type of crowd they attract. The gig in the ambassador was mainly populated by inanimate Frames fans, leaving a very depressing atmosphere (for me anyway).

Stalfos · 21-02-2005 2:01pm

I totally agree with drummer 666, there new stuff is very punk pop although some of it is kinda the same old green day. I think its attempt to keep up with the times cause it's very modern.

I am MAN · 21-02-2005 2:06pm

Hey,

I still have respect for Greenday but they certainly cannot be classed as punk going by the last offering. Songs like "wake me up when september ends" and "boulevard of broken dreams" are certainly not punk songs and do have more of a rock feel to them.

The guys are getting older, they cant hop around like they used to

They do put on a great concert though

NotMe · 21-02-2005 2:54pm

Yeah I think they've gone from pop-punk to generic rock.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 21-02-2005 3:38pm

Yeah gone pretty rock but "holiday" and some of "jesus of suberbia" is fairly punk, and "american idiot" sounds a lot like their old stuff.

dregin wrote:

The gig in the ambassador was mainly populated by inanimate Frames fans

hehe i think i was wearing a frames t-shirt that night, hope you're not basing that post on me!

Ro: maaan! · 21-02-2005 5:03pm

Dammit Bottle, you know you're not supposed to mix up scenes like that!

dregin · 21-02-2005 5:09pm

Heh, dont get me wrong. I dont care who listens to what. But people that stand about at a punk gig aren't people i enjoy being in a crowd with. Frames fans are usually the ones standing around. Of course I'm generalising. It's always been easiest to pick out the Frames fans as the ones least likely to jump around.

honru · 21-02-2005 7:23pm

Since Nimrod, Green Day seem to have moved away from punk in favour of alternative rock, the only remotely punk single from that album was Nice Guys Finish Last (Yeah, Insomniac had the dirgy Brain Stew, but that was backed up by Jaded

).

Warning was both alternative and punk with a pop slant. It was better than Nimrod, but no way as good as their older albums.

In saying that, Boulevard of Broken Dreams could hardly be classified as a punk song, and it's probably the worst song that Green Day has ever released.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 21-02-2005 7:37pm

Ro: maaan! wrote:

Dammit Bottle, you know you're not supposed to mix up scenes like that!

hah someone else gave out to me for that on the night too, i only wore it cos it was bright red!

and nae worry i wasnt standing around....

Jim · 21-02-2005 7:42pm

Whats wrong with standing around?

I love a good stand.

It wasn't me! · 21-02-2005 8:59pm

Sitting or lying for me to be honest. None of the new stuff really compares to the old stuff with the possible exception of Holiday. And even that gets a bit dirgy when the chorus comes in. It's just kind of alternative rock at this stage with a punk edge. It's just not fast or mad enough.

drummer 666 · 21-02-2005 9:11pm

stalfos wrote:

I totally agree with drummer 666, there new stuff is very punk pop although some of it is kinda the same old green day. I think its attempt to keep up with the times cause it's very modern.

yeah, but if there so called 'punk band' wouldn't ya thikn that they wouldn't care about mordern time music and keep it to htere stlye of playing instead of changing it? and there look..the hole black thing and shirtss doesn't look right on tre or mike, they look depressed all the time

olly · 22-02-2005 10:50am

i have to give it to Greenday, theyve lasted a hell of a lot longer than most bands and are still giving great shows and showing the new wave of punk how its done. But honestly they cant have the same sound as they did years ago coz that would get boring. change is good!!!(well most of the time anyway)

dregin · 22-02-2005 12:01pm

olly wrote:

i have to give it to Greenday, theyve lasted a hell of a lot longer than most bands and are still giving great shows and showing the new wave of punk how its done. But honestly they cant have the same sound as they did years ago coz that would get boring. change is good!!!(well most of the time anyway)

Agreed. Who says they're copying anyone? Maybe the rest of the world is copying them!

cajun_tiger · 22-02-2005 12:09pm

the media is whats making the confussion...

was in a skanky night club and they started playing green day!!!! wtf

Jim · 22-02-2005 12:19pm

cajun_tiger wrote:

the media is whats making the confussion...

was in a skanky night club and they started playing green day!!!! wtf

Meh, not a big deal, Green Day is popular and not uber heavy, thats probably why.

irokie · 22-02-2005 3:32pm

i'd call american idiot punk... the album has much more of a **** you vibe to it than anything they've released in a long time. there are some songs on it that aren't punk (boulevard of broken dreams), but i think the tone of the album and some of the songs are good old fashioned **** YOU!

which is nice.

Drum boy · 22-02-2005 7:39pm

They call themselves 'punk rock' as do i!

Caoimhe · 22-02-2005 11:11pm

Who cares how you classify them, they're bloody brilliant and thats all that matters to me

ferdi · 23-02-2005 11:32am

whatever they are, they have come up with some of my favorite songs of all time. 86, Welcome To Paradise, In The End, Longview,The Grouch etc etc. They were my first band back in the day and no matter what they release i will always have a very VERY soft spot for them.

Caoimhe · 23-02-2005 7:40pm

Yeah, they were the first band to get me into punk and rock music, back in the day...

Ro: maaan! · 23-02-2005 7:54pm

Stop saying back in the day!!

NotMe · 23-02-2005 8:02pm

I listened to Greenday for a few months........... back in the day.

Caoimhe · 23-02-2005 8:03pm

Ro: maaan! wrote:

Stop saying back in the day!!

But it really was... back when I was young and innocent and stupid...

qz · 23-02-2005 8:09pm

I wouldn't exactley call Green day "punk", more punk rock or rock (with a dash of pop-punk

)

Either way, they're my favourite band. Fooking brilliant.

dregin · 23-02-2005 8:22pm

Listen lads. You're either punk or not. Punk rock, punk lite, punk porn...it odesnt matter. it's still punk.

Scarinae · 05-03-2005 12:57pm

I dunno, they've gone too mainstream or something... I hated Warning, I thought it was the most boring album, I haven't bothered buying American Idiot but it seems to be a bit better

Pinhead · 08-03-2005 11:15am

I hate Green Day with a passion. I hate their music, I hate their whiney vocals. They're not the Ramones, the Sex Pistols or The Clash. Are they punk? Well, they ain't Jazz..

qz · 08-03-2005 5:14pm

Pinhead wrote:

I hate Green Day with a passion. I hate their music, I hate their whiney vocals. They're not the Ramones, the Sex Pistols or The Clash. Are they punk? Well, they ain't Jazz..

You sir, I dislike.

Pinhead · 10-03-2005 1:36pm

I figured what I said was a compliment..

Stalfos · 10-03-2005 3:30pm

you got to admire Green Day for sticking with punk for all this time when they could have turned to what they are now long ago

Pinhead · 10-03-2005 5:11pm

By your logic, you have to admire Metallica for sticking with Thrash up until 1990 when they could have turned to what they are before that..

Oh please.

crazy angel · 10-03-2005 5:13pm

i hate them they suck! they are an insult to the word punk!!

Stroller_burn · 10-03-2005 11:08pm

I've never called them punk rock, their early stuff is pop punk however.

weemcd · 12-03-2005 8:55pm

Why the **** should it matter what genre of music they slot into?

You either accept them for what they are doing, (imo American idiot is a very varied and entertaining album) or refuse to listen to them because their social status doesn’t fit in with your obscured elitist outlook on life.

Also could anyone find me a user with 666 in their name who isnt a complete retard?

melekalikimaka · 14-03-2005 11:48am

they went from pop punk to whatever the hell is coming out of em theses days, they sold out so bad, i love their old stuff, bit like no doubt

petes · 15-03-2005 2:43pm

Green Day are class. Although I did prefer there older stuff. I still have there first mainstream release lying about. 1039 smoothed out slappy hours. Great. Was a bit rough but some catchy jingles in there!!

SmileyOReardon · 16-03-2005 5:31pm

I'm so glad that the punk purists who used to rail on Green Day for selling out have grown up and sold out themselves so these guys can be left alone to do what they do best which is write great music. "American Idiot" could have been overtly political in a cheesy diss Bush kind of way like that terrible Beastie Boys track that I can't remember the name of. Instead, Green Day rips into middle America because after all, it's not Bush that's the problem, it's the scary people that voted for Bush that are the problem. You know the type: watching the world go by through the gates of their suburban castles, screaming into cell phones, stuffing McDonald's in their fat faces and chasing it all down with Paxil and Prilosec to keep the vomit from spilling across their new Nike tennis shoes. What the hell is more "punk" (whatever that's supposed to mean anymore and can somone please tell me?) than being handed a Grammy by the establishment you've just wiped your ass with? Call them what you want. No one with a lick of sense is going to care one way or another.

Eddie

dregin · 16-03-2005 5:47pm

^ word ^

skapunkkeith · 21-03-2005 7:58pm

they are not punk, or pop punk, they are punk rock, which is a sound they invented, but other than that they should not be put into any genre as they are origional

NotMe · 21-03-2005 8:01pm

skapunkkeith wrote:

they are not punk, or pop punk, they are punk rock, which is a sound they invented, but other than that they should not be put into any genre as they are origional

Green day invented punk rock?

Matthewthebig · 21-03-2005 8:13pm

I thought Busted did?

Ro: maaan! · 21-03-2005 8:15pm

To be fair, they did play a large part in inventing/sculpting/moulding* modern punk rock. Green Day have been going since '89 anyway. The transition from classic punk to modern punk pretty much took place between '83 and '90. Before Green Day there weren't many bands with similar styles. The Descendents are the main one that spring to mind. By today's standards it's pop punk, but it wasn't all that popular back then. I wouldn't say Green Day invented punk rock, but after the birth of modern punk they guided it to what it is now. Or what it was when they drifted away from it.

(*I have no idea what I'm talking about.)

melekalikimaka · 21-03-2005 9:39pm

hehe does that mean Pansy Division also were the fathers of punk rock

Ro: maaan! · 21-03-2005 10:10pm

Eh... assuming you're talking about Joy Division...? What have you got against them?

melekalikimaka · 22-03-2005 2:41pm

no pansy divison, they used to tour with green day at the very start for ages

Ro: maaan! · 22-03-2005 2:44pm

Ah, ok. I've never heard of them. Continue...

melekalikimaka · 22-03-2005 3:00pm

well if green day played a role in creating modern punk rock...pansy division would also in theory influenced the same people, but i can't see their music really in modern punk...they were...em... colourful

Ro: maaan! · 22-03-2005 3:02pm

Well maybe they weren't very influential...

would you still call green day punk?

Comments