NTL acting up D15

Drapper · 30-01-2005 4:35pm #1

Anyone in the Castleknock BLanch area having problems with NTL broadband to-day?

garthv · 30-01-2005 4:50pm

Ntl broadband is in blanch????

Drapper · 30-01-2005 4:52pm

GaRtH_V wrote:

Ntl broadband is in blanch????

yup in some parts !!!

Zaph · 30-01-2005 4:57pm

Just for your info Garth, I'm in Clonsilla and I rang NTL the other day to see if they had any news on BB coming my way. All the guy would say is that they're doing a lot of work in Dublin 15 at the moment but couldn't give specifics and that I'd know when it became available when I got one of their flyers in the door. No chance of getting anything more definite than that from them.

Drapper · 30-01-2005 5:18pm

zaph wrote:

Just for your info Garth, I'm in Clonsilla and I rang NTL the other day to see if they had any news on BB coming my way. All the guy would say is that they're doing a lot of work in Dublin 15 at the moment but couldn't give specifics and that I'd know when it became available when I got one of their flyers in the door. No chance of getting anything more definite than that from them.

I'm in the Luttrelstown / Riverwood area near the carpenter pub !!!

:-)

only here since September.....

smorton · 30-01-2005 7:38pm

Its not fair. I'm only ten minutes from there and I can't get it. Want to swap houses?

Drapper · 30-01-2005 7:48pm

smorton wrote:

Its not fair. I'm only ten minutes from there and I can't get it. Want to swap houses?

No bother send me photos and a house valaution and I'll let you know !!

holly_johnson · 31-01-2005 4:28pm

hee hee have just rung ntl and it is available in Springlawn and Summerfield!

yay! bye bye IBB ripwave and hello ntl!

andrew163 · 31-01-2005 6:37pm

*offtopic for a friend...who cant get dsl..or breeze...or NTL... *strokes own dsl lovingly

* * you can get ripwave in d15???? :eek:

holly_johnson · 01-02-2005 2:22pm

andrew163 wrote:

*offtopic for a friend...who cant get dsl..or breeze...or NTL... *strokes own dsl lovingly * * you can get ripwave in d15???? :eek:

I suppose it depends on where in Blanch you are... I have a feeling the node on the Atrium building is full now, because my signal has gone to the dogs in the last couple of weeks. I don't know if they have nodes elsewhere. As an aside, I wouldn't touch IBB Ripwave with a bargepole again... I only used it as a stopgap until ntl came along as cant use Eircom over phonewatch alarm.

RicardoSmith · 03-02-2005 7:06pm

holly_johnson wrote:

...cant use Eircom over phonewatch alarm.

Why is that?

holly_johnson · 03-02-2005 9:27pm

RicardoSmith wrote:

Why is that?

It can be used, but it costs a bomb to get it working. Eircom insist on sending out an engineer to do something to the phone line 300 euros. Then phnewatch need to come out and do something else to the phone line, another 200 euros so I was told by Eircom and phonewatch.... so technically you can get it in, but why would you bother for that money???

Get NTL for free!

RicardoSmith · 03-02-2005 9:34pm

holly_johnson wrote:

It can be used, but it costs a bomb to get it working. Eircom insist on sending out an engineer to do something to the phone line 300 euros. Then phnewatch need to come out and do something else to the phone line, another 200 euros so I was told by Eircom and phonewatch.... so technically you can get it in, but why would you bother for that money???

Get NTL for free!

I assume you can't get any ASDL product with Phonewatch not just eircoms.

Not everyone can get NTL.

Drapper · 03-02-2005 9:34pm

Guys think we are goign of the tread topic !!

Drapper · 03-02-2005 9:35pm

ADSL is distant reliant !!! Richardo some people in L/Town and Riverwood have it and some not !!! signal issue !!!

holly_johnson · 03-02-2005 10:47pm

Drapper, you're right this is going off topic sorry I tend to ramble a bit old age etc!

Last word so Ricardo, I know not everyone can get NTL. I wont have it until Monday (yay) so in the meantime I used IBB Ripwave. There's a solution out there for everyone I think, it's a matter of shopping around.

lee_baby_simms · 03-02-2005 10:56pm

wow, morten harket is startin to look his age eh?

RicardoSmith · 03-02-2005 11:37pm

Drapper wrote:

ADSL is distant reliant !!! Richardo some people in L/Town and Riverwood have it and some not !!! signal issue !!!

Its a big problem if ASDL won't work with phone watch, and I doubt that its to do with distance. Distance is only a issue for getting ASDL in the first place.

The reason theres a problem in L/Town and Riverwood with ASDL is to do with old equipment in the exchange. So I was told. Its not line quality issue. Thats just the answer they give everyone, regardless of the fault. All the operator can see is a fault number, which means theres a problem. Thats all.

When NTL is in an area every seems to be able to get it. Its not a lottery like ASDL seems to be. As for problems in D.15, what problems do you mean? You've never said what the problems you were having. You've mentioned the pings going up and down, and I have had that problem all the time I've had it. But as I haven't been gaming its not a big issue for me. Be nice to get it sorted though.

Drapper · 04-02-2005 9:55am

RicardoSmith wrote:

Its a big problem if ASDL won't work with phone watch, and I doubt that its to do with distance. Distance is only a issue for getting ASDL in the first place.

The reason theres a problem in L/Town and Riverwood with ASDL is to do with old equipment in the exchange. So I was told. Its not line quality issue. Thats just the answer they give everyone, regardless of the fault. All the operator can see is a fault number, which means theres a problem. Thats all.

When NTL is in an area every seems to be able to get it. Its not a lottery like ASDL seems to be. As for problems in D.15, what problems do you mean? You've never said what the problems you were having. You've mentioned the pings going up and down, and I have had that problem all the time I've had it. But as I haven't been gaming its not a big issue for me. Be nice to get it sorted though.

Well the guys said he could see something !! when he looked at the area profile, but he needed to talk to his systems guy !!! called last and this and they said it would take a bit more time !!

Last night between 8 - 10 the pings were 40 and around 50 in gameplay !!

Hope its fixed !!! fingers crossed !!!

Hey Richardo, I've a mate inriverwood deane who has ADSL """ from eircom and its grand !!! very strange !!!

RicardoSmith · 04-02-2005 9:49pm

Drapper wrote:

......, I've a mate inriverwood deane who has ADSL """ from eircom and its grand !!! very strange !!!

Whats strange is that theres no pattern to why it works in one house and not the next. It kinda makes sense if theres old and new gear in the exchange and it depends which one you are plugged into.

Drapper · 04-02-2005 10:02pm

RicardoSmith wrote:

Whats strange is that theres no pattern to why it works in one house and not the next. It kinda makes sense if theres old and new gear in the exchange and it depends which one you are plugged into.

True m8 the pings are good tonight ! maybe they have that issue resolved in the are getting 40 -55 on most sites

Drapper · 20-02-2005 3:29pm

How are your pings this weekend on NTL in Dublin 15?

Mine are sh1t are usual !!

:-(

RicardoSmith · 20-02-2005 3:32pm

Drapper wrote:

How are your pings this weekend on NTL in Dublin 15?

Mine are sh1t are usual !!

:-(

Mines up and down like a whores knickers. Ran that bat file for a little while. Runs from 20's to 120's in a few seconds.

Drapper · 20-02-2005 3:33pm

Could you send me the Bat file ? I use ping monitor its grand !!

BTW I still got IBB on my gaf to be taken away in the next month !! the pings were 20 solid to my games server !! Jasus NTL you were a big let down ! IBB 1meg seems to be more solid for games!!

Thank god I got backup

RicardoSmith · 20-02-2005 3:45pm

Where are you getting the signal from with IBB.

I am MAN · 20-02-2005 3:49pm

I'm located in Summerfield and I have 1.5mb broadband access on its way.

Get ordering.

RicardoSmith · 20-02-2005 4:33pm

I am MAN wrote:

I'm located in Summerfield and I have 1.5mb broadband access on its way.

Get ordering.

Good luck with your pings...

I am MAN · 20-02-2005 4:37pm

RicardoSmith wrote:

Good luck with your pings...

Gaming isnt something I do much anymore although i've been meaning to get back into quakeworld.......

Why do you say "goodluck with pings?" can you back that comment up with information?

RicardoSmith · 20-02-2005 4:42pm

I am MAN wrote:

Gaming isnt something I do much anymore although i've been meaning to get back into quakeworld.......

Why do you say "goodluck with pings?" can you back that comment up with information?

What information do you want?

I am MAN · 20-02-2005 4:43pm

RicardoSmith wrote:

What information do you want?

Well you could start with telling me why exactly my ping is going to be bad...

RicardoSmith · 20-02-2005 4:53pm

I am MAN wrote:

Well you could start with telling me why exactly my ping is going to be bad...

No idea, you'd have to ask NTL why exactly...

Theres a few of us here in D.15 and our pings are all over the place.

Drapper · 20-02-2005 5:07pm

RicardoSmith wrote:

Where are you getting the signal from with IBB.

Ballycoolin :-)

C:\>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 62.231.50.113
2 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms ballycoolin-vl-vlan-4.irishbroadband.ie
3 5 ms 78 ms 4 ms tallaght-et-1-7.irishbroadband.ie ]
4 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 62.231.52.125
5 19 ms 23 ms 20 ms lvl3gw.thn.packetexchange.net
6 21 ms 69 ms 20 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.66.224.59]
7 18 ms 21 ms 18 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
8 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 82.133.85.65

Trace complete.

Drapper · 20-02-2005 5:12pm

I am MAN wrote:

Well you could start with telling me why exactly my ping is going to be bad...

The NTL pings are terrible here m8 and I've been on thier case for a while ! They have admitte there is a problem in the area !

So if its gaming you want avoid until they have it resolved also P2P's are not stable so if your planning dl's all night dont be surprised if you get up in the morm and files are not in !! It sometimes just stops !!

All and all it a:- SH1T

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 291 ms 113 ms 61 ms 10.135.103.254 (THIS IS THE FIRST HOP TO THE NTL SERVER !!! WHY SO HIGH??)
2 167 ms 700 ms 114 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]
3 88 ms 87 ms 66 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]
4 60 ms 683 ms 103 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]
5 106 ms 74 ms 43 ms ren-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.41]
6 72 ms 53 ms 668 ms ren-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.185]
7 666 ms 123 ms 79 ms bre-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.166]
8 95 ms 79 ms 85 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
9 73 ms 607 ms 53 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
10 69 ms 98 ms 76 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
11 93 ms 65 ms 122 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
12 124 ms 601 ms 107 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

and

1 78 ms 68 ms 36 ms 10.135.103.254 (THIS IS THE FIRST HOP TO THE NTL SERVER !!! WHY SO HIGH??)
2 56 ms 55 ms 56 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]
3 50 ms 112 ms 613 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]
4 91 ms 544 ms 40 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]
5 77 ms 57 ms 184 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
6 101 ms 48 ms 74 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]
7 227 ms 555 ms 107 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
8 60 ms 83 ms 80 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
9 84 ms 92 ms 535 ms win-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.162]
10 534 ms 59 ms 68 ms pop-bb-a-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.201]
11 81 ms 94 ms 74 ms tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]
12 108 ms 90 ms 126 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [213.208.106.169]
13 91 ms 540 ms 75 ms 84.12.225.130
14 71 ms 72 ms 63 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
15 77 ms 71 ms 91 ms 195.149.21.112

Trace complete.

I am MAN · 20-02-2005 5:14pm

If I find the download rates are not acceptable they will be getting it back and I will stick with Eircom.

Drapper · 20-02-2005 5:17pm

I am MAN wrote:

If I find the download rates are not acceptable they will be getting it back and I will stick with Eircom.

They can give the 1.5 meg dl but the pings are crap ! ask them tomorrow if ther is a problem with gaming in the area, say you herd there was pings issues, come back and let us know ;-)

I wonder what they will say to that !

I am MAN · 20-02-2005 5:19pm

I couldnt be bothered because im not really a gamer anymore...once the downloads acceptable and downtime is very low I will be happy

Drapper · 20-02-2005 5:49pm

I am MAN wrote:

I couldnt be bothered because im not really a gamer anymore...once the downloads acceptable and downtime is very low I will be happy

Well dont say you have not been warned !!

holly_johnson · 20-02-2005 7:56pm

Drapper,

Im on NTL in Springlawn and this is my pings:

tracert bnc1.m4dgaming.com

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 5 ms 10.135.167.254
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-104.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.45]

3 30 ms 11 ms 8 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]

4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]

5 33 ms 42 ms 25 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
6 17 ms 22 ms 30 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]

7 16 ms 72 ms 67 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
8 21 ms 34 ms 21 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

9 27 ms 25 ms 28 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]

10 23 ms 27 ms 73 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
11 23 ms 22 ms 26 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]

12 33 ms 22 ms 23 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
13 23 ms 27 ms 24 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
14 23 ms 29 ms 24 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

Trace complete.

Looks alright to me!!! This is fairly consistent since the beginning... so maybe it's not all of D15?

Couch Potato · 20-02-2005 8:25pm

holly_johnson wrote:

I suppose it depends on where in Blanch you are... I have a feeling the node on the Atrium building is full now, because my signal has gone to the dogs in the last couple of weeks. I don't know if they have nodes elsewhere. As an aside, I wouldn't touch IBB Ripwave with a bargepole again... I only used it as a stopgap until ntl came along as cant use Eircom over phonewatch alarm.

Spoke to IBB during the week as I noticed from their maps they were putting a base site in the Clonsilla area - appears to be going on the mast down at the Railway station and will offer the Breeze and Ripwave products ...

Drapper · 20-02-2005 8:39pm

holly_johnson wrote:

Drapper,

Im on NTL in Springlawn and this is my pings:

tracert bnc1.m4dgaming.com

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 5 ms 10.135.167.254
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-104.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.45]

3 30 ms 11 ms 8 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]

4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]

5 33 ms 42 ms 25 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
6 17 ms 22 ms 30 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]

7 16 ms 72 ms 67 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
8 21 ms 34 ms 21 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

9 27 ms 25 ms 28 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]

10 23 ms 27 ms 73 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
11 23 ms 22 ms 26 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]

12 33 ms 22 ms 23 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
13 23 ms 27 ms 24 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
14 23 ms 29 ms 24 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

Trace complete.

Looks alright to me!!! This is fairly consistent since the beginning... so maybe it's not all of D15?

Where is springlawn ?

I am MAN · 20-02-2005 8:50pm

Drapper wrote:

Where is springlawn ?

It is the the next estate down from Summerfield, I can see it from where I sit an 8 foot wall seperates the pair.

Drapper · 20-02-2005 8:52pm

I am MAN wrote:

It is the the next estate down from Summerfield, I can see it from where I sit an 8 foot wall seperates the pair.

Near Clonsilla station?

Stench Blossoms · 20-02-2005 9:45pm

holly_johnson wrote:

It can be used, but it costs a bomb to get it working. Eircom insist on sending out an engineer to do something to the phone line 300 euros. Then phnewatch need to come out and do something else to the phone line, another 200 euros so I was told by Eircom and phonewatch.... so technically you can get it in, but why would you bother for that money???

Get NTL for free!

I have phonewatch and i got it. Cost 70 for the eircom technician to come out and that was it. Dont no where your getting your figures from.

RicardoSmith · 20-02-2005 10:07pm

Well check out my pings... :mad:

C:\>tracert bnc1.m4dgaming.com

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

01 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms cpc4-inch1-3-0-cust97.dbln.cable.ntl.com [82.9.175.97]
02 33 ms 55 ms 20 ms 10.135.103.254
03 35 ms 182 ms 46 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]
04 30 ms 14 ms 239 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]
05 70 ms 88 ms 67 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]
06 102 ms 86 ms 36 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
07 117 ms 185 ms 335 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]
08 30 ms 42 ms 47 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
09 28 ms 30 ms 151 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
10 73 ms 36 ms 127 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]
11 113 ms 157 ms 63 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
12 122 ms 52 ms 26 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
13 179 ms 52 ms 114 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
14 87 ms 31 ms 346 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
15 35 ms 178 ms 149 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

Trace complete.

C:\>

Downloads and browsing the web is fine. But this would be dire for gaming.

I am MAN · 21-02-2005 8:09am

Drapper wrote:

Near Clonsilla station?

No alot alot further down....near Roselawn...towards ulster bank/credit union/garda station.

holly_johnson · 21-02-2005 9:01am

orla wrote:

I have phonewatch and i got it. Cost 70 for the eircom technician to come out and that was it. Dont no where your getting your figures from.

That was the figure quoted to me by Eircom, and then by the Phonewatch guy that serviced my alarm. I wasn't going to order it to find out it was cheaper! The Phonewatch guy told me that if they didn't come out after the Eircom guy, that there could be an issue where they wouldn't support the alarm! After hearing that crap I decided not to bother... both companies under the Eircom umbrella but won't even do a deal amongst themselves!
If it works for you, fine, but it most definitely was not for me!

I am MAN · 21-02-2005 9:05am

holly_johnson wrote:

That was the figure quoted to me by Eircom, and then by the Phonewatch guy that serviced my alarm. I wasn't going to order it to find out it was cheaper! The Phonewatch guy told me that if they didn't come out after the Eircom guy, that there could be an issue where they wouldn't support the alarm! After hearing that crap I decided not to bother... both companies under the Eircom umbrella but won't even do a deal amongst themselves!
If it works for you, fine, but it most definitely was not for me!

I work for eircom and whoever told you that must have been new

holly_johnson · 21-02-2005 9:25am

Maybe they were, but after hearing that, do you think I was going to order? No way! I don;t know who to believe in that company ( no offense!) every time I talk to them I get different responses.....

Drapper · 21-02-2005 9:45am

NTL thread guys !! we are drifting !!

RicardoSmith · 21-02-2005 11:28am

Drapper wrote:

NTL thread guys !! we are drifting !!

Should that not be "...we are sailing...we are SAILING....across the..."

Sorry, slow morning.

holly_johnson · 21-02-2005 11:46am

Drapper wrote:

NTL thread guys !! we are drifting !!

Sorry Drapper, I consider my wrist slapped lol

NTL acting up D15

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