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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Alfasudcrazy


    This is my 1977 504L - it was owned by the one guy since new and has only 40,000 on the clock :cool:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/5047.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/40_12_sb.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/1e_12_s.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/P7.jpg


    Sure I may as well throw in my 1975 Daimler 4.2 here as well - its reg date is 1/1/75 so it qualifies for the classic car tax - otherwise there could be a bit of a situation. :eek:
    That only leaves the TR6 and the GT Junior to post but I have no nice pics of these on the computer at the min so those are for another day.
    Must get the TR6 out of the garage today to give it a bit of a spin - like to drive it at least every two weeks. Well with all the new metal flying about the place here its important not to forget the old stagers - they still like to be given attention as well :D


    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/Jag4.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/Jag3.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/Jag2.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/Jag1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    I've owned an 1986 Opel Manta 2.0 GTE in the past. Will buy another in the future.

    (P.S. Did you get my PM's, Alfa ?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Opel Manta GTE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    To post pics, just save them on your computer, then click on 'manage attachments' (half way down the screen when you are posting).

    Then simply click on 'browse', choose your pic, click on 'upload' (usually takes a few sec to upload) then close the upload window and post your comments (and pic!) as normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    mmmmmmmm I loved all the manta's, though the manta ray was my fav, god i'd love one .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    As I said before on tcm classics, i'd love to have a tr7 convertible. Wait looks in garage. I do yahay, hey I know noone likes them but I love it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    And TR7 convs go relatively cheaply to boot !

    What's a Manta ray ?
    (only heard of the sea living variety ! :D )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    the manta ray was germany's ansewer to the capri. I think it was a small production run. I only ever saw two and both were yellow. It looked like a more fashionable capri. and was made alongside the mk 1 manta's. It hade a chrome graphic of a manta ray fish on the boot lid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    yes I have to agree my tr7 cost 900 stg, I have spent a further 1000e boosting performance, and 700 e vrt. It still goes like a snail :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭BlueDrax


    I've a TR7 convertible in the back of my parents garage.
    It's got a Dolomite Sprint engine. Does that make it a TR7½?
    There's also a TR6 convertible, a Golf GTI convertible and 911 Carrera SC, all in various states of repair.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    tr7 with dolly sprint engine is called tr7 sprint. Very few factory made. a lot wer'e converted to sprint by enthusiast's. if yours is a factory sprint very rare. pants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    the tr7 outsold all other triumph sports cars (not bad for a car everyone hated) the tr7 sprint i think had only 120 examples factory built.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    Is my world closing in ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    how about this, a nice one for about the same as an 02 corolla.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    What's the definition of a 'Classic Car' ?
    Most of the ones mentioned so far are just fairly run of the mill old crocks !

    Some one mentioned a Porche Carrera and maybe the Rolls........but otherwise....

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    one of the reasons that rolls values are declining for the shadow and climbing for the old tat is that perversely the old tat was so poorly built thatthere is very little of it around. hence the prices rise for the junk.the rolls on the other hand was built right although having said that the citroen hydralics are prone to failure after all these years. when the rolls started life it cost an astronomical amount of money. also fuel prices in the uk dont help fueling a 6.75 litre motor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭stratos


    Well our classics may be tat, but there was no need to say it out loud.
    well it's easy to love a beauty, to find love in the more ordinary goes beyond the fleeting obvious, it takes time to find a daffodil on the rocky cliffs. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    i was out a few years ago with a friend who had an old rover (p5 i think ) anyway we went on a charity run with other rovers and other 'classics' and stopped for a nice lunch in meath somewhere. anyway to cut to the chase we had a look at the other cars and were talking to the drivers of them.
    one guy with a serious face in front of his mates was telling us the secret of painting a car with a paintbrush and dulux paint. i kid u not.
    the cars were scrap for all intents and purposes but i appreciate the time they spend just to keep them going on a shoestring.
    ive gone to a few classic car auctions and it really amazed me the amount of tat, the poor poor condition of it and furthermore the crazy prices they were going for.
    my advise to anyone in this country who wants a classic is to realise that most classics in this country are scrap, very few people can afford the 1-2k a year it takes to maintain them. particularly when many enthusiasts here have several of them and a real modern car and a family and a mortgage.........the only advantage here over the uk is that the roads arent salted and they rust less here. even if im being a bit biased i am not as many classic cars in the uk are crap however because its a larger country there is better selection and the market is freer so prices reflect quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    stratos wrote:
    well it's easy to love a beauty

    so true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    My Dad's gone and bought himself a 1969 MGc Roadster, exactly like this except it has wire wheels:

    mgcroadster.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    My first car was a 1972 MGB GT. The guy I worked for at the time had fully restored it. Fireengine red. I would love another one...some day.

    MrP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Merrion


    I have a Triumph GT6 Mk 3 (1973) - although it is away in the UK being restored...and has been for sooo long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭eljono


    I have a Morris Minor at home but it's not running. I'd love to do it up but am in college at the moment. A classic that I have always loved to have is the Volvo P1800;


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Yeah, the P1800 is a cool car. I know of a guy who has recently purchased a mint silver '67 P1800 - which he intends to use as his daily drive !!

    lomb,
    when your refer to classics being 'scrap', what age group of cars are you referring to ?

    e.g. up to 20yrs old ?
    20-30 yrs old ? etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Alfasudcrazy


    Merrion wrote:
    I have a Triumph GT6 Mk 3 (1973) - although it is away in the UK being restored...and has been for sooo long.

    You dont mind me asking who is doing it for you as I have a TR6 - its in good nick at the moment but you never know when you might want to get a little nip & tuck done. I had it over in UK in 2001 - a place called "Enguineity" in London - specialists in TR6. They did extensive mechanical work as the cars body is fairly good - like a new car afterwards and a huge increase in fuel economy :D
    It cost an arm and a leg though :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Silvera wrote:

    lomb,
    when your refer to classics being 'scrap', what age group of cars are you referring to ?

    e.g. up to 20yrs old ?
    20-30 yrs old ? etc

    various ones, hard to generalise, usually low value stuff though. where people feel a cars only worth a few grand no point in puming the same again into it. and ive noticed many enthusiasts have more than one and cant afford to maintain them.

    there are a few nice ones about but only where owners have put as much as its worth into it again and what sane minded person would do this? even the guy who owned the rover had several others like a jensen intereceptor formula 4 by 4, a silver spirit, the rover , a mid 60s 230 sl, volvo something or other and 1 more.
    now in fairness he was a low end millionaire but he liked his cars and was willing to spend on them. however i got in the volvo and leigned back into the seat and it collapsed backwards. the rolls developed a rear axle hydralic leak (self leveling suspension) this cost him 2000 euro to repair, the jensen although it looked well was constantly overheating and breaking down, the sl was nice i have to say (bought from silver arrows a few years ago) and the rover was mint but he pumped 15000 into it.
    now in fairness he had the money for them and he had more than one.
    can u imagine the average bloke who has no money, has several cars and isnt a professional. ok they have enthusiasm which u can admire but that isnt enough.
    all the cars i saw a few months ago at the classic car auction in ashbourne apart from the 100000euro silver ghost and a 76 shadow that didnt sell were scrap. at the end of the day why sell a car unless for some reason u dont like it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭ken90


    I have a Morgan 4/4 1980

    Here is a photo of somebody else's

    http://www.oldtimergalerie.ch/e/galery/fahrzeuge/Morgan.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    lomb,

    Was that auction in Ashbourne at Merlin Car Auctions ?

    Are classic auctions are regular feature with them ?

    I remember they used to have classic and vintage auctions when they were known as Windsor Car Auctions, and were based on Belgard Road, Tallaght.
    Haven't seen one advertised in a long time though.

    Any other company do classic auctions in Ireland ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    hi, twas merlin alright, it wasnt that long ago actually say sept or oct around that sort of time frame. u had to buy a catologue to get in (5euro)but was great value as u could sit in all the cars. some also had keys etc so u could have a good look around.if u were looking for a classic i can honestly say there were many varied brands and vintages there. everything from a toyota cressida to the silver ghost. alot of it was in very poor condition. a fiat topolino i looked at looked as if it was about to self destruct before me. still great place to get a feel for things. many jags/ rovers/ triumphs/mercs the odd roller/ bentley etc
    i looked at a 70's bentley t2 as well and was in poor shape on the interior front. i doubt the mechanicals would have taken the car 200 yards down the road (no doubt why the owner wished to part ways)
    im actually not sure how regular they are but are great great fun. give them a ring and ask when the next one is, i might see u there :)

    oh not sure bout other auctions but id say merlin the only one there must have been 100+classics there that day. the silver ghost was very nice and went for 100000. they had it as the last auction :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Cheers lomb.
    I would like to attend a classic auction in Merlin to see what's about.

    The only classic auction I have attended so far, was back in c.1994 in Kilkenny at some big farm estate sale - had lots of classics, tho many very iffy.
    I nearly bought a 240Z on the spur of the moment, glad I was outbid tho !
    When I looked more closely at the car afterwards, it had loads of metal patches under the wheelarches ! :eek: :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Silvera wrote:
    Cheers lomb.

    When I looked more closely at the car afterwards, it had loads of metal patches under the wheelarches ! :eek: :D


    :D:D:D:D:D
    il give them a ring tomorrow morning and find out when the next one is and il report back. should be good for a good laugh ;)

    i am being unfairly harsh perhaps as some owners do cherish their baby. but these 'babies' rarely come up for sale in this country as there are very few of them :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Alfasudcrazy


    qz wrote:
    My Dad's gone and bought himself a 1969 MGc Roadster, exactly like this except it has wire wheels:

    mgcroadster.jpg

    Hi QZ

    How did you get the full photo of the MGB to appear like that - thats much better than opening links - any help would be appreciated :)

    Jag4.jpg

    Mmmm - just testing - I know now thanks :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Kersh


    I have a 1979 Porsche 911 sc, with the full sport pack- fuchs, tail, shocks, full leather- its a lovely car, definitely not every day, so its in dry storage til the summer. I have pics here on my pc, but I have no idea how to put them in a post. I was thinking of selling it and getting a Testarossa for my 30th next year.
    Or is this a classic....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Gmodified


    went crazy with my bro and got rusty Honda N600 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    good news the next merlin classic car auction will be end of jan / middle of feb but no date fixed yet. will come up on website www.merlincarauctions.ie and she also mentioned to ring back in a fortnight


    oh dont buy anything there unless u know what ur doing my experiance of it was he was bidding up a car by pointing to me even though i wasnt bidding and my friend and i were the only ones on that side of the auction. all very iffy never mind the cars:D :D:D:D:D:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭Paul (MN)


    1984 Mercedes 200T (W123)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    1964 Land rover Series IIA 109

    tailgate.jpg

    perky.jpg

    some more

    http://www.johnlanigan.com/images/dec04/bhead_in_progress.jpg

    http://www.johnlanigan.com/images/dec04/bhead_051204.jpg

    http://www.johnlanigan.com/images/dec04/bhead_051204_2.jpg

    someday it'll be finished.


    someday

    oh, and I'm trying to get a sixties mustang in from the states at the minute, all in the planning, but flights and accomodation are booked and costs are worked out :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Silvera wrote:
    Yeah, the P1800 is a cool car. I know of a guy who has recently purchased a mint silver '67 P1800 - which he intends to use as his daily drive !!


    I opted for the sports estate version; the 1800ES.
    Here's my pride and joy.
    DSC00565.jpg
    DSC00522.jpg

    btw: For the benefit of Ei2JC, a classic car doesn't have to be a porsche or Rolls. Morris Minors, Beetles, Fiat 600's, and Minis are all 'classic' in their own right, and lots of other affordable cars would qualify as well. It's a subjective thing of course, but any old car that had some distinctive qualities when new (be they stylistic, technical or social) is probably a 'classic' to someone. I might not care for Cortinas myself (bar the Mk1 lotus jobbies), but they certainly represent a picture of family motoring of a certain era, and therefore deserve preservation. One man's meat is another man's poison, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    alastair wrote:

    btw: For the benefit of Ei2JC, a classic car doesn't have to be a porsche or Rolls. Morris Minors, Beetles, Fiat 600's, and Minis are all 'classic' in their own right, and lots of other affordable cars would qualify as well. It's a subjective thing of course, but any old car that had some distinctive qualities when new (be they stylistic, technical or social) is probably a 'classic' to someone. I might not care for Cortinas myself (bar the Mk1 lotus jobbies), but they certainly represent a picture of family motoring of a certain era, and therefore deserve preservation. One man's meat is another man's poison, etc.

    Alatair : point well made - thank you ......like I consider my 04 Audi A4 TDI Quattro to be a classic........!

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Kersh,
    you lucky so-and-so :D ...... I'm still waiting for the day when I get a Porsche 911 SC ! :(

    What colour is it ?
    Import, or original Irish reg ?

    Gmodified,
    Where did you come across the N600 ? Talk about 'hens teeth !?!


    BTW, shoudn't we move to the new classics forum guys ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Paul (MN) wrote:
    1984 Mercedes 200T (W123)

    Great to see an original reg W123 in such good nick !

    especially an estate version !!

    Well done, Paul(MN).


    (P.S. Does your (MN) represent Monaghan ?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Kersh


    Its original Irish, gold/bronze colour. Its lovely. Great car, if you can live with its quirks. I got it in september 2003. Its usually only out on summer days. Itll be for sale soon too... :) , as will all the other cars too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭eljono


    @ Alastair; That is a seriously clean engine bay. Do you use the car as a daily driver?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,799 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Some nice classics in here already :)

    Any pics of the 911, Kersh?

    @Gmodified - was the N600 ever sold here or anywhere in Europe for that matter? I don't remember ever seeing one

    Said it before and will say it again: nice 1800ES, alastair :)
    Silvera wrote:
    (P.S. Does your (MN) represent Monaghan ?)

    Motornet ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Kersh


    Ye I found a few, here they are: If I knew how to post them straight up I would instead of using links.
    The other 911 in background is not mine.. :( .
    These were taken when I picked it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Gmodified


    unkel wrote:
    Some nice classics in here already :)
    ..... was the N600 ever sold here or anywhere in Europe for that matter? I don't remember ever seeing one
    .

    There was only few of them around. Most of them imported by Des Cullen and I beleve he has picture of it in his office :) . It was brand new when he had it:)
    it needs 1.000.000 hrs of work at the moment so it will take some time before we go to race Civic's in Mondello ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭Paul (MN)


    Silvera,

    Credit is due to previous owner. I've only had it 5 months.

    MN is for MotorNet :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,799 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Kersh wrote:
    Ye I found a few, here they are: If I knew how to post them straight up I would instead of using links

    Nice :)

    To "post them straight up" you need to have the pics hosted somewhere first. You can do that in your webspace (easy peasy, just a click)
    right here on boards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭BlueDrax


    Lets see if I can get this photo thing working:

    Porsche 911 Carrera SC ('81)
    Porsche-01.jpg
    Triumph TR6
    TR6-02.jpg
    Triumph TR7
    TR7-01.jpg

    Work on the Triumphs stopped while I was rebuilding a '92 MR2 Turbo. Can an MR2 be counted as a classic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,799 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    BlueDrax wrote:
    Can an MR2 be counted as a classic?

    Classic is in the eye of the beholder ;)


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