Whats worse than some ignorant bstrd using a handicap space?

Linoge

Using 2 handicap spaces?
You got to hand it to him. We need more people like this in the world!!

Sorry about the bad quality.

Aldi, Maynooth. Friday 6/1/05

Draupnir

this from a man with a Josef Stalin signature is really classic!

personally speaking, i dont think their should be handicapped parking spaces. wats worse are mother and baby spaces. in my opinion, it should be a free for all. people are mad for equality when it suits.

why is it that a handicapped person can park in my spot but i cant park in a handicapped persons spot?

Gilgamesh

a handicapped person using two normal spaces? just kidding

I don't think it even matters it beeing a handicapped spot, it's just bad someone taking two spaces

cujimmy

Whats worse than some ignorant bstrd using a handicap space?

Some ignorant bstrd calling disabled people handicapped?

Peteee

wrote:

Whats worse than some ignorant bstrd using a handicap space?

Being anally raped

kaimera

how do you not know said person is not disabled?

pete :: you'd know about anal rape all right

stevenmu

Some people seem to think that not being able to park properly counts as a valid handicap.

Draupnir wrote:

personally speaking, i dont think their should be handicapped parking spaces. wats worse are mother and baby spaces. in my opinion, it should be a free for all. people are mad for equality when it suits.

why is it that a handicapped person can park in my spot but i cant park in a handicapped persons spot?

Couldn't agree more, the amount of times I've gone into a car park and the only free space left are handicapped ones. Why should some handicapped (or disabled if you prefer) person have more of a right to park than I do ?

Linoge

cujimmy wrote:

Some ignorant bstrd calling disabled people handicapped?

Main Entry: han·di·cap
Function: noun
: a physical disability (as a bodily impairment or a devastating disease)


Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


Main Entry: hand·i·cap
Pronunciation: 'han-di-"kap
Function: noun
: a disadvantage that makes achievement unusually difficult; especially : a physical disability


Source: Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

Sorry, did I say something wrong? Is physically challenged more appeasing?
A dictionary wouldn't carry the word I would give to you.

quarryman

due to the poor quality pic its difficult to tell if the driver is being anally raped or not.

could explain the slightly hurried parking technique.

Chalk

stevenmu wrote:

Some people seem to think that not being able to park properly counts as a valid handicap.


Couldn't agree more, the amount of times I've gone into a car park and the only free space left are handicapped ones. Why should some handicapped (or disabled if you prefer) person have more of a right to park than I do ?

because you dont have difficulty walking a few hundred yards?

and to the fool who thinks its unfair that a mother and child get to park closer to a shop door than they do , i hope your mother/wife gets told to **** off whenver there offered any help, at all.

Gilgamesh

cujimmy wrote:

Some ignorant bstrd calling disabled people handicapped?

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference?
I didn't think there was one.
except that you get diability benefit and not handicapped benefit?

Gilgamesh

Chalk wrote:

because you dont have difficulty walking a few hundred yards?

and to the fool who thinks its unfair that a mother and child get to park closer to a shop door than they do , i hope your mother/wife gets told to **** off whenver there offered any help, at all.

I know I'm going to get slaughtered her but, hey , it's wednesday, only two more workdays.
I understand Woman and Child parking, it's more a security thing than anything else.
But if a Disabled (handicapped?) person is parking to go shopping, then I personally don't think walking (rolling?) an extra 100 yards would make a difference, if they can't do that, then they wouldn't normally be in a car either.

flyz

Draupnir wrote:

personally speaking, i dont think their should be handicapped parking spaces. wats worse are mother and baby spaces. in my opinion, it should be a free for all. people are mad for equality when it suits.

Correct me if I'm wrong but some handicapped people require extra space when getting out of the car.

Personally I wouldn't like to have a handicapped persons car in a normal parking space next to me! *ding ding ding* nice bit of paint chipped off there!
:rolleyes:

Draupnir wrote:

why is it that a handicapped person can park in my spot but i cant park in a handicapped persons spot?

If someone with a handicapped sticker on their car parks in a normal parking space then they don't have a handicapped person in the car with them.

Chalk

Gilgamesh wrote:

I know I'm going to get slaughtered her but, hey , it's wednesday, only two more workdays.
I understand Woman and Child parking, it's more a security thing than anything else.
But if a Disabled (handicapped?) person is parking to go shopping, then I personally don't think walking (rolling?) an extra 100 yards would make a difference, if they can't do that, then they wouldn't normally be in a car either.

im sure its harder to navigate a car park in a wheelchair.
ever noticed how close cars park togethere,
and perhaps how eratically people drive round them,
im sure your just taking your mobility for granted when you think about it in such simple a to b terms

Draupnir

Chalk wrote:

because you dont have difficulty walking a few hundred yards?

and to the fool who thinks its unfair that a mother and child get to park closer to a shop door than they do , i hope your mother/wife gets told to **** off whenver there offered any help, at all.

it seems like an unlikely scenario that someone would both offer them help, and then tell them to **** off. its fair more likely the would request help and be told to **** off.

my point was this, why do mothers and babys need to park closer anyway? theres the little seats in the trolleys so the baby doesnt need to walk, then its pretty much just mother who is parked closer. any time ive been to the shops with a woman and child, i was the poor clown carrying all the shoppin anyway.

tman

heh. and i thought i was an asshole for blocking the disabled toilet in work

BolBill

Please Please lose the Stalin signature, the man was a c*nt.

As for the parking, I'll tell you whats worse, telling disabled people that they're disabled because of sins in a former life, a la Glenn Hoddle, and then still getting employed in football - thats worse.

Chalk

heheh :P

sticking to my guns -
"can i help you with that missus"
"yes please"
"**** off, hahhaahahahh"

afaic
its a safety /comfort issue for mothers,
who wants to be walking off into the dark corners of a car park with a baby and a load of shopping,
or even if the weather is bad ,

in all honesty if you were there helping your wife n kid you could probably have passed up the mother and young child space in favor of someone who might need it

and imo its just nice to offer these kind of services, sure some of them arent required by law, but neither is holding a door for a woman with a pram or helping someone with something they cant manage, surely you wouldnt begrudge a pregnant woman having her shopping carried out for her would you?

cajun_tiger

People Have This Picture Of Some One Who Is Handicaped To Be Either Someone With Downs Or Looks Strange. They Dont Think Of The Person Who Is Paralised Or Has Ms Ect. People Need To Educated Themselfs

Chalk

huh, i dont get the relevance, also whats with the Strange Capitialisation?

tman

go handy on the caps there, cajun

cujimmy

The term disability has replaced the older designation of "handicapped" Today most people see people with disabilities as being DISABLED,However it is fair to say that they are handicapped as a result of societys lower expectations of them.

koneko

Caps is evil. And now the same post in English...?

Anyway...
cujimmy I think that's being overly PC to be honest, some people will take offense at anything you say.

Kêrmêttê

Draupnir wrote:

why is it that a handicapped person can park in my spot but i cant park in a handicapped persons spot?

AFAIK, a wheelchair user would not be able to comfortably park their car in a parking spot designed for your average able bodied shopper.
There needs to be room to manouver the wheelchair along the side of the car.
Also carparks are quite hazardous and it's a safety aspect to have the wheelchair user parking spaces nearer the entrance of the building.

BolBill

cajun_tiger wrote:

People Have This Picture Of Some One Who Is Handicaped To Be Either Someone With Downs Or Looks Strange. They Dont Think Of The Person Who Is Paralised Or Has Ms Ect. People Need To Educated Themselfs

The irony of the last bit is great.

Gilgamesh

Chalk wrote:

im sure its harder to navigate a car park in a wheelchair.
ever noticed how close cars park togethere,
and perhaps how eratically people drive round them,
im sure your just taking your mobility for granted when you think about it in such simple a to b terms

I am not taking mobility for granted, seeing I was in a wheelchair for more than 6 months myself and was unable to walk.
most car parks have pathways marked out, and if the drivers can't keep to these and something happens, it doesn't matter if you are in a wheelchair or not. so what you are saying, is that the spaces are saved, because there are maniacs in prking areas?
man I wish they would do this everywhere.
put a 2 meter thick wall between the pedestrian footpath and the main road, there are crazy drivers there aswell.
you can get a disability card, even if you do not have a mobility disability.
EU definition states that you must disply a 60% disability, to qualify for this.
60% doesn't mean that you have to be a living torso. even in insurance terms, 60 % disability is allready achieved if you have a thumb and a finger missing.
Therefor I don't like this uling of disabled parking.
If someone is disabled, he isn't always unable to walk properly or at all.
they should change this ruling imo, either remove them, or classify under which circumstances these spaces can be used.
the space thing goes into this part I just explained aswell.
someone with a missing hand, or somethign less extreme, wouldn't have a problem getting out of a car, if he does, because there is no space, then hey, he shoul dhave found a bigger space to park

cajun_tiger

sorry if you write a post all in caps it turns out like my one,

Linoge

BolBill wrote:

Please Please lose the Stalin signature, the man was a c*nt.

As requested.

DuJimmy.
Stop being a PC asshole. Handicapped is a perfectly acceptable term. It is not in any way derogatory. You're the type of person who would say "of African origin" rather than just "black", or "sick" instead of "Downs Syndrome". I don't think anyone would appreciate you being so patronizing.

Physically challenged people do have a right to park closer. Just think of all the trouble they have to go to to do their shopping. If its one luxury we can give them, why should we begrudge? I'm sure anybody objecting here is not in a wheelchair, nor any of their family.

cajun_tiger

ha ha thats good hmm which is worse stalin or hitler??

ambro25

Whats worse than some ignorant bstrd using a handicap space?

Some ignorant bstrd Gardai running at 30mph+ through Liffey Valley retail car park, siren & everything going, then making big gestures at my wife to f*** off, the very second she parked in a disabled car parking spot with her disabled mother (including disabled parking badge) and our 6-months old daughter in the car....which was on Brit plates, which might explain this or that :mad:

stevenmu

Chalk wrote:

because you dont have difficulty walking a few hundred yards?

I've no problem with leaving the nearest space free for disabled/handicapped people or mothers with kids, where possible, voluntarily. But when the rest of the car park is full and they're the only spaces left then I should have as much right to park there as they do. Otherwise I'm being discriminated against for not having a physical disability.
I could easily have as urgent a need as they do for going into the shops and yet I could walk out to find my car clamped or towed.

cajun_tiger

all the gardai up there are a$$holes, my job got held up but gun point. when they came to question people what had happened my boss who was in a bit of a state was told to cop on and grow up( she had the gun in her face the whole time)

BolBill

cajun_tiger wrote:

ha ha thats good hmm which is worse stalin or hitler??

Neither, both forgetable

koneko

cajun_tiger wrote:

all the gardai up there are a$$holes

Wow, what a wonderful and sweeping statement.

Gilgamesh

koneko wrote:

Wow, what a wonderful and sweeping statement.

LOL

pickarooney

cujimmy wrote:

The term disability has replaced the older designation of "handicapped" Today most people see people with disabilities as being DISABLED,However it is fair to say that they are handicapped as a result of societys lower expectations of them.

So should I be working on my golf disability?

Devious

BolBill wrote:

Please Please lose the Stalin signature, the man was a c*nt.

Yea he was nasty. At least Linoge has replaced it with a picture of a lesser monster. Go Linoge!!

Dr. Loon

cajun_tiger wrote:

sorry if you write a post all in caps it turns out like my one,

Why would you write a post all in caps anyway? To píss people off?

BolBill

cajun_tiger wrote:

all the gardai up there are a$$holes, my job got held up but gun point. when they came to question people what had happened my boss who was in a bit of a state was told to cop on and grow up( she had the gun in her face the whole time)

Your signature may only be a signature but it does set the mind racing

Gilgamesh

Dr. Loon wrote:

Why would you write a post all in caps anyway? To píss people off?

If Caj likes Caps, She likes Caps.
I like black things.

Dr. Loon

Gilgamesh wrote:

If Caj likes Caps, She likes Caps.
I like black things.

Keep it up. Ya could be in there!

Draupnir

koneko wrote:

Wow, what a wonderful and sweeping statement.

I was thinkin the same thing myself there koneko, the world generalisation isnt general enough for a statement like that.

I actually new a garda who was more up his Sergeants asshole than his own by the way.

Kêrmêttê

ambro25 wrote:

Some ignorant bstrd Gardai running at 30mph+ through Liffey Valley retail car park, siren & everything going, then making big gestures at my wife to f*** off, the very second she parked in a disabled car parking spot with her disabled mother (including disabled parking badge) and our 6-months old daughter in the car....which was on Brit plates, which might explain this or that :mad:

Jeez, that's terrible. I hope they let your wife leave her car there, especially as she had the right documentation.

The gardai should be more vigilant about scummers breaking into cars to steal stereos etc... I'm forever seeing smashed windows in cars in Liffey Valley carpark and nobody seems to take any notice of it.

The Sweeper

Parent & Child spaces are designated on the same basis as Disabled Driver spaces - the spaces are wider, facilitating people who may be trying to get a wheelchair or a pushchair alongside the car. They are nothing to do with proximity to the store, security at night or anything else.

I think Parent & Child spaces are a good idea - if you've ever had some toddler sprint in front of your car while his parent's got the pushchair stuck behind the car and the side door open because they're trying to get the baby out of the pushchair and into the carseat and don't have eyes in the back of their head, you might agree...

I do think that parking spaces should be used on the basis of availability, and you should be permitted to park in a Disabled Driver or Parent & Child space if the rest of the carpark is full. Then again, someone would have to be employed to stand in the carpark and make sure people don't abuse that rule, because the general public are ba$tards...

Gilgamesh

Dr. Loon wrote:

Keep it up. Ya could be in there!

could be where? in a handicap parking space, ROFL.
first time I defended someone, and it was more a joke.
then again, you're just jealous, :cool:

cujimmy

Linoge wrote:

As requested.

DuJimmy.
Stop being a PC asshole. Handicapped is a perfectly acceptable term. It is not in any way derogatory. You're the type of person who would say "of African origin" rather than just "black", or "sick" instead of "Downs Syndrome". I don't think anyone would appreciate you being so patronizing.

Physically challenged people do have a right to park closer. Just think of all the trouble they have to go to to do their shopping. If its one luxury we can give them, why should we begrudge? I'm sure anybody objecting here is not in a wheelchair, nor any of their family.

I don’t see myself as being “ a pc asshole” I do however subscribe to the social model of disability and not the medical model.

To explain: The medical model of disability sees the disabled person as the problem. They are to be adapted or “cured” to fit into the world as it is. If this is not possible, then they are to be shut away in some specialised institution or isolated at home, where only their most basic needs are met. The emphasis is on dependence, backed up by the stereotypes of disability that call forth pity, fear and patronising attitudes. Usually the focus is on the impairment, rather than the needs of the person. Other people's assessments of them are used to determine where they go to school, what support they get (or don’t get) and what type of education, where they live, etc etc, and indeed whether or not we are born at all, or are even allowed to have children of their own. Similar control is exercised by the design of the built environment making it difficult or impossible for needs to be met and limiting opportunities. Whether it is in work, school, leisure and entertainment facilities, transport, training, higher education, and housing or in personal, family and social life, too many common practices and attitudes disable them.

The Social Model of Disability would say that the position of disabled people and the discrimination against them are socially created. This has little to do with their impairments. Disabled people are often made to feel it's their own fault that they are different. The difference is that some part, or parts, of their bodies or mind are limited in their functioning. This is impairment. And this impairment does not make them any less suitable to participate in society.
The problem is that most people have not been brought up to accept disabled people as they are. Through fear, ignorance and prejudice, barriers and discriminatory practices develop which disable them.
The “social model” believes the “Cure” to the problem of disability lies in the restructuring of society. Unlike medically based 'cures', which focus on individuals and their impairment, this is an achievable goal and to the benefit of everyone. This approach, suggests that disabled people's individual and collective disadvantage is due to a complex form of institutional discrimination.

cujimmy

Incidentally Linoge someone of African origan is more likely to be brown than black and someone with Downs Syndrome has a "learning difficulty" and is most definitely not sick

cujimmy

pickarooney wrote:

So should I be working on my golf disability?

No
The dictionary definition is
hand·i·capped, hand·i·cap·ping, hand·i·caps
Sports & Games. To assign handicaps or a handicap to (a contestant).
To cause to be at a disadvantage; impede.

[From obsolete hand in cap, a game in which forfeits were held in a cap.]

Gilgamesh

man CU, are you sitting in a library or something, or do you spend your days memorising Encyclopedias?

cujimmy

Gilgamesh wrote:

man CU, are you sitting in a library or something, or do you spend your days memorising Encyclopedias?

No just looked out some of my old training materials

Gilgamesh

I knew that old stuff would have been good for something.
Doh!