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Dyslexia and the internet

  • 08-05-2001 1:16pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭


    I suffer from dyslexia and have found that the new trends towards e-mailing and texting people on mobiles have caused problems for me. Spell checks help but if the word is spelt so badly nothing comes up in the suggestions box (it didn’t have one for suggestions but spelled it by saying no suggestions just now for me smile.gif) or if things do come up they are so similar that I don’t know which one to pick. People on the internet tend to make fun of people who make spelling mistakes in chat rooms and on posts (Recently happened to me on boards frown.gif).I just thought Id tell people about this and see if anyone has had similar experiences or laughed at people who spell badly in chat rooms?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭smoke.me.a.kipper


    most people's posts here have words spelt wrong. though i'd say this has more to do with typing mistakes, than with spelling.

    to be honest, i don't think anyone really cares about spelling on the net, especially in chat rooms or on irc. if they do, then it's really kinda pathetic.

    "It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"
    -Nietzsche


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭Evil Phil


    I'm dyslexic too, for long posts I generally spell check them in Word or Outlook before. I have a nokia mobile phone and have learned to use the predictive text thingy-ma'jig which helps a lot. Big problem now is my handwriting. It was like a 5 year olds before I started working. It's illegible now.

    Oh, and I'm not able to distinguish between words like your and you're in text. I actually see the correct one as I'm typing but will notice the error later when I re-read something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭[fist]Snowball


    dude, don't mind them. I have dyslexia, I have had probs at school and now I am goin to go back to collage. It's gonna be a biatch but there u r. If people r takin the **** ignore them or beat them up with trouts of somethin'.

    Also, if u have a prob with words do what I do, use other ones. If I can't spell a word I might rewright a sentance so that I can change that word. The spell checkers r a pain because if u cant spell for **** like me and u don't get it simular they r no help. On chat rooms and the like spell phoneticly (or how ever u spell that 1) and people will get the jist. wink.gif

    Snowball.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    Like I said already, taking the p|ss out of someone's spelling is neither big nor clever. People should surely have better things to do than that, particularly when you don't know anything about person you're taking the p|ss out of.

    Bard
    "We do know it was we who scorched the sky..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭kayos


    I hear you Doc and EP. I have dyslexia also and I find sometime the spell check falls over and dies when I try to run it against some of my mails/documents frown.gif The funny thing is that when writing code (all languages bar Open Script and ASM) I have no problems. I agree with kipper most ppl have mistake in their posts either caused by miskeys or not being able to spell the word. I dont care as long as you dont have to spend an hour tring to make out a 2 line post. And Phil my writing is cack as well most places when I'm signing for something look at my sig all funny like. One time I had a little cow in pennys refusing my card saying "Sorry but that cant be your signature" with a laugh. I nearly went through her. Generaly I take no notice of things like ppl dissing my spelling but some ppl can push to far and them is the ppl you quitly take aside and slap about the head smile.gif but in the main most ppl lay off once they know.

    kayos


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    you'll get a group discount...

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    im realy intereste in this.I have been told that it has somthing to do with the inner ear and balance.It can throw letters around on the page when you read it.The one thing is.If sombody was to type somting out incorrectly could you read it.Kind of like it in reverse ? Or can you read sombody else's writing that has dyslexia ? Sombody reply to this post without using spell check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    As a partial dyslexic I believe because I make the effort to check my spelling I have the right to slag other peoples spelling. I dunno if their dyslexic or not and frankly I don't care.

    And if there are other dyslexics out there that can't take a joke well then that's just lard huck!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭kayos


    There is a load of different way in which it can effect you and there is loads a possible reasons as to its cause (I dont really read up on this that often). In my case my main downfalls is oral sequancing i.e. when a lecturer is giving a lecture to try and take down notes is impossible and another thing is My brain bascily sends a signal to write a word and somewhere along the line that gets fupd up. I can tell someone easier that I can write to them about it. My main mistakes in spelling and reading are the mistaking letters b-d m-n g-p l-i w-v and the like. While in college I was given classes to help improve the spelling and reading (free of charge) which we're very good as they were one on one and the teacther coverd what you needed the one bad point was being in college and having to read and spell very basic words as it makes you feel very small but the teach really makes it feel ok. If you are in school/college and you have it make sure you talk to your conseller about it. I never had any joy in school but in college I had extra time in exams, free classes and the lecturers were meant to give me the notes (this never really happend so I got the note of class mates and got the photocopies for free). What really gets me is there is no real allowance in the LC exams for this sort of thing. Having to write a long esaay for a normal person who can spell and write neatly fast still takes a long time but for someone like myself it take 3 time as long (having to spend time checking you spelling and making sure your writing was readable) and as for aural tape tests dont even go there...

    kayos

    When you get to hell tell them I sent you,
    you'll get a group discount...

    tribes.gameshop.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Excelsior


    Slagging off spelling is the ultimate low-brow activity of a web bully in my opinion.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I reckon it's one of the most un-diagnosed/un-treated diseases in this country.

    I know LOADS of people who can't spell and I reckon half of them are dyslexic (or have some form of learning disorder).

    Unfortunatly, many teachers aren't equiped to deal with it and they get angry when despite a student's best efforts, they can't get their spellings right. I've seen it with my brother - he never did well in school and he's an extremely intelligent guy. I fully maintain that if his teachers had been any good, they'd have spotted that he had problems and was floundering despite his best efforts and as a result he left school only barly managing a Junior Cert. He's never been diagnosed, but I did a little test with him and he tended to read and write things backwards. When we were younger we thought it was because he was a lefty (and it's true that left-handed people can sometimes read and write backwards better that right-handers).

    I know myself I nearly always get things muddled up when typing or writing at speed (well, as fast as I can) and I've often wondered if maybe I suffer from a form of the disease - anyone aware of some sort of quick test (online or not) you can take?



    All the best!
    Dav
    @B^)
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    I always thought i had it because i can get realy wrong spelling mistakes.How can you check if you have it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dre as in Dray:
    im realy intereste in this.I have been told that it has somthing to do with the inner ear and balance.It can throw letters around on the page when you read it.The one thing is.If sombody was to type somting out incorrectly could you read it.Kind of like it in reverse ? Or can you read sombody else's writing that has dyslexia ? Sombody reply to this post without using spell check. </font>

    I'd be interested in seeing what genetic or hereditary properties it has- whether its a condition that passes down in a family through the generations.

    Personally, I have never had any such affliction as dyslexia. I've never even had a problem with spelling, having a natural aptitude for it since a very early age, and I never need to use the spell checker. Any mis-spelled words by me on boards (rare as I'd expect them to be) would be mistyped, and completely accidental.

    Doc is my brother, - which is why this is of interest to me. An example on the other side might be his own excellence in a number of things such as rugby while I'm predisposed to nothing of the sort. Also, he has an interest in architecture, - a subject which is way over my head. Yet in other disciplines (like that which I'm employed in, I expect), I'd have the better aptitude... I was just wondering was there anything in genetics that made one brother proficient in something while the other is deficient in it.

    Bard
    "We do know it was we who scorched the sky..."

    [This message has been edited by Bard (edited 09-05-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭kayos


    Right here you go all your questions answered
    http://www.acld-dyslexia.com/ this is actually one of my old lectures sites so I mailed him up and got it off him smile.gif

    kayos

    When you get to hell tell them I sent you,
    you'll get a group discount...

    tribes.gameshop.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭Evil Phil


    Apparently my dyslexia is caused by some kindo f optical defect. Which is why I see words as they should be but not as the are. This is why my spelling can be so bad and my handwriting is actrocius. The worst affect is learning forigen languages (?!), even english is bad. As a result of which all the colleges I applyied to after school were informed and I was allowed to apply without the extra language(s). (Why you need French for computer science I don't now). However, the Dept. of Education would not make allowences for me in the Leaving. As a result I fell a grade in every subject due to presentation or my lack ther of. So I want from A's and B's to B's and C's. Severly limiting my college options, although I've done alright for myself since then. They told me to write with a good pen ffs, and these people are responisble for education!

    I have found using spell checkers regularly has impreoved my spelling somewhat, but it's still not great.

    I also reckon that dyslexic people tend towards techie jobs like I.T. or engineering. Something with the way the mind works, like it's not actually a disability just another way of thinking or learning.

    (and no spell check biggrin.gif)

    Kayos, look up an orginasation called Adults and Childern with learning dysabilites (formally dyslexia Ireland). They should be able to point you in the write direction. (Oops, sorry Kayos that was meant to be Kharn, I think the K's threw me off).



    [This message has been edited by Evil Phil (edited 08-05-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭Evil Phil


    This dyslexic walks into a bra...


    BOOM BOOM


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil Phil:
    Kayos, look up an orginasation called Adults and Childern with learning dysabilites (formally dyslexia Ireland). They should be able to point you in the write direction. (Oops, sorry Kayos that was meant to be Kharn, I think the K's threw me off).</font>

    Given that we work and live together - it's an easy mistake to make wink.gif
    And just to make it more fun, his REAL name starts with a K too!!!

    I agree with the techie/IT jobs thing - anyone I know with dyslexia tends to be more geared towards that sort of a job - lateral thinking and problem solving sometimes comes easier...



    All the best!
    Dav
    @B^)
    So I turned around to Jack Charlton and said: "Well of course it's not a football Jack, it's an '86 Chardonay!!!"
    [honey i] violated [the kids]
    Tribes 2 Goodness
    The Dawn of the Beefy King approaches...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭kayos


    Did you hear abou the dyslexic raver???
    he popped a F instead of an E smile.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Shinji


    The problem with the Internet in this respect is that it can be hard to tell the difference between a dyslexic person and some moron who just can't be bothered writing a proper message, so one tends to just ignore anything really badly spelt and formatted.

    That said, spell checkers and so on do exist for a reason. I know it's a bit more work for the dyslexic person to undertake... but, well, a short-sighted person must wear glasses, a person with a broken leg must use a crutch, a person with dyslexia must be extra-careful with their posting and use a spellchecker. Seems fair enough to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭Evil Phil


    Did you hear about the dyslexic Devil worshipper?

    He prayed to Santa
    tongue.gif

    But seriously, I don't know if it is hereditary but it's definatly a working theory. I do think it's more common than people realise, and as far as I know there's never been a major study into how many people it affects. I reckon it affects a rather large percentage of the population. I'd like to see such a study carried out; it could make life a lot easier for the talented kids that are doing sh*t in school (you all know whom I'm talking about).

    [This message has been edited by Evil Phil (edited 08-05-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Megatron


    well i DO suffer from it. I did a test about 3 years after i left school. so the school tested one of my brothers there and yes he had it. so he was given some marks because he had dyslexia ( i know it's wrongly phrased but i'm in a rush here ) he was doing his leaving. so i asked seeing as i had been diagnosed with it how about my leaving cert, i was then told by the Dept. of Education that they would look into it ..
    and i have never heard from them about it scince.

    and as far as people with dyslexia going for I.T. jobs i would have to agree, and they always seem to make the best trouble shooters as well !!!

    No !!!!! I will crush you with my Bare hands.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I dunno...i was just too lazy to learn my spellings while in primary school....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Seems like there are a fair few dyslexics on the boards alone. What kind of percentage of the poplation is estimated to be dyslexic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    I got marked as a dyslexic in secondary school (I did a test), but I was only in that special class for one lesson before they realised I just sucked at spelling and sent me back to normal English classes.

    If my memory serves me correct.
    6 classes x 28 people (avg) = 168

    Of that amount about 12 were in the dyslexic classes. (20%?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Canaboid


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kharn:
    Given that we work, live and sleep together - it's an easy mistake to make wink.gif
    And just to make it more fun, his REAL name starts with a K too!!!
    </font>

    I get confused too wink.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ANYONE WITH DYSLEXIA WHO PLANS TO SIT THE LEAVING CERT!! smile.gif

    My good friend Maria has severe dyslexia, and is doing the LC. She rang up the department and pushed and pushed with them until she got some exemptions and assistance for the exams.

    Now, for the whole Leaving Cert, she has her own personal reader, who will read the exams out to her. She is exempted from spelling mistakes fully. She does not have to do any languages except for English. She has a room to herself, and extra hours for each exam.

    Anybody with dyslexia, this is what you are entitled to. Do not delay if you are sitting them in June - this might mean the difference between a PLC and a university degree course.

    Marie is going for engineering, and quite frankly, without this help, she wouldn't be making it. However, getting this assistance which she and all dyslexics are fully entitled to, means she is guaranteed to pass all her subjects with flying colours.

    A study tip for other dyslexia sufferers - Maria gets her sister to read notes into a tape recorder and she learns them off by heart by listening to it over and over. Obviously this doesn't work with maths, but, just in case this might help anybody else.

    Good luck to anybody doing the leaving cert this year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Bob the Unlucky Octopus


    Dyslexia must be one of the most interesting conditions around scientifically speaking. It's not a crippling disability (as was once thought)- but merely a group of people who see things in different ways. Autism is a more extreme condition in the same category.

    Dyslexics are indistinguishable from normal people apart from the way they read and write. The only other thing is the amazing way that their brain organizes and catalogues information. A large number of dyslexic people enjoy huge success in discrete mathematics for example- their left-brain allows them to perceive concepts that non-dyslexics have to work harder for in order to realize.

    They also enjoy success in the arts- Tim Burton, Ian McKellan, Ray Winstone and Michael Caine are all dyslexic to some degree. Tim Burton was even flunked out of his elementary school because he couldn't even spell his own name until the age of 9.

    Dyslexia and autism give us a unique opportunity to understand how the brain catelogues what it considers to be important information.

    Criticizing spelling online is petty and pedantic- I never do it. I only question spelling when the meaning of what's being said escapes me- and that hasn't happened much- 99% of the time, the person's meaning is clear- and there's no need to nit-pick.

    I enjoy taking the p!$$ in a friendly fashion with friends though- just ask IRC #var regulars if you don't believe me biggrin.gif

    Other than that- why bother criticizing spelling if the meaning is clear? I mean- I use American spellings which make more sense than British counterparts, and vice-versa. Example- I use "theater" instead of the Anglo-French "theatre" but I write "paedophilia" instead of "pedophelia". That doesn't make the meaning of the word any less clear- so why bother questioning spelling at all?

    Bob the Unlucky Octopus
    =Caveat Emptor=


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kharn:
    I reckon it's one of the most un-diagnosed/un-treated diseases in this country.</font>

    I think its technically a 'condition' not a 'disease', but anyway as someone with reaonable English (OK I only barely passed pass English in the Leaving - but my problem was the Literature) I tend to copy and paste longer messages from a program that has no spell checker to one that does and then paste back.

    I think the spell checker in Corel Word Perfect is much better that the one in Microsoft Word when it come to suggestions (even though Microsoft have now taken over Corel).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Winning Hand


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by neuro-praxis:

    Marie is going for engineering, and quite frankly, without this help, she wouldn't be making it. However, getting this assistance which she and all dyslexics are fully entitled to, means she is guaranteed to pass all her subjects with flying colours.
    </font>

    First off I better say im not a dyslexic.
    Now onto my point, neuro, you say that without the help shes getting she wouldnt make it. What makes you think its going to get easier for her in college. And if she does get help (which I hope she does, im not a nasty person) whats going to happen when she goes out for a job in a field where spelling is everything, in an abbreviated form i.e. lb-ft is completely different to ft-lb.
    Incidentally i seem to remember you cant take elec-engineering if you fail a colour blindness test (Can someone verify or dispute this plz?) So what do we do for colour blind people who want to do engineering?



    Some say the end is near.
    Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
    I certainly hope we will.
    I sure could use a vacation from this....
    bull****


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    There seems to be alot of dyslexic ppl on this board ,Mabey we should have a dyslexic forum !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭mrblue


    Spelling, like table manners, is a code of practice thought up by people with nothing better to do.

    These are the same people who invented Dressage (the art of teaching horses to walk sideways).

    I'm not dyslexic, but I still can't spell for ****. I rely heavily on the Oxford Concise Dictionary & people's goodwill!

    My advise - don't worry about what people think, just worry about important stuff like exams, algebra etc.

    Ever hear the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?

    He layed awake all night & wondered if there really was a Dog.*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Incidentally i seem to remember you cant take elec-engineering if you fail a colour blindness test (Can someone verify or dispute this plz?) So what do we do for colour blind people who want to do engineering?</font>
    Absolutely totally and completely incorrect. Believe it or not, colorblindness is not even slightly inhibiting to becoming a good engineer (here m8, what value is this bloody resister? - 20 ohm. - Cheers m8 <---gosh, cant let this tit become an engineer! smile.gif)

    And you dont do anything for colorblind people (eg me) except allow for it when they cant tell who their team mates are (in any goddamn sport - quake , bleh, its only online, but soccer\gaelic OMG YOU GAVE THEM A GOAL IN THE CUP FINAL YOU *******!) and dont let them become members of the bomb squad (cut the blue wire? Which one is blue goddamn it?).

    I used work in a bar/restaurant, and it really could be a pain in the ass sometimes.
    eg:

    Waitress: Give that fellow a pint of Murphys.
    Me: Which fellow?
    Waitress: The one over by the fireplace.
    Me: Which one of the 23 people at the fireplace?
    Waitress: The one with a red shirt.
    Me: Ack! Goddamn it Im colorblind! Which one is he?
    Waitress: Oh sorry. I forgot. See the guy with the baige pants?
    Me: No!
    Waitress: He is standing next to the girl with light brown hair.
    Me: Helloooo? Colourblind!
    Waitress: She is wearing a blue top!
    Me: For FVCKS SAKE! You give him the bloody drink.

    This is the problem with working with idiots smile.gif

    Dyslexia is a far more difficult thing to cope with. Although, when your girlfriend closes her eyes and asks you what colour they are, you wont be trés b0lloxed smile.gif



    [This message has been edited by Paladin (edited 08-05-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    A bit mean, now that I think of it, that they actually called it "dyslexia" to start with... I mean... it can't be the easiest word in the world to spell, now can it?

    ... and no, I don't think that jokes about it are particularly funny... there is no Church of the Latter Day Dyslexics, and they don't pray to the one true dog.

    Bard
    "We do know it was we who scorched the sky..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Winning Hand


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:

    (cut the blue wire? Which one is blue goddamn it?)
    </font>
    That was my point, like there are no colours in circuits or capacitors and whatnot. I did ask for someone to verify it as i had heard it before (i wouldnt have posted it if i hadnt heard it) and after thinking about it made sense.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Megatron


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:
    Although, when your girlfriend closes her eyes and asks you what colour they are, you wont be trés b0lloxed smile.gif

    </font>
    He he he he !!!!! biggrin.gif
    sorry but i can see it now and the slap that follows !!! tongue.gif



    No !!!!! I will crush you with my Bare hands.
    P.S. Avator fromerly know as Gamblor !!


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    were can you get tested for dyslexia ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Coyote


    10% of people have Dyslexia in some way or a other, but for 90% of them it will not stop them in any way but to not be as good at spelling as most people.
    there is a number of diff types of dyslexia.
    it's diff for ever person who has it but there are a few main groups.
    there is no one resion that they know of that causes Dyslexia, it is hereditary.
    90% of people with very bad Dyslexia are male.

    there are a number of things that Dyslexia causes or is becose of, (IE: they do not know if it causes this or you have dyslexia becose of this)
    the brain is split in two parts the right and the left half.
    in a none dislexia brain the two halfs talk to each other more.
    when doing spelling:
    normal brain the brain ativtie from one side to the other is about 35-40% for a girl, a guy 25-30%, now a dislexia person would be about 5-15% the two halfs do not work with each other as well.
    depending on how well your two sides of your brain works wiht each other your brain develops in diff ways. if the two sides work well then you will be better at spelling, wrigheing and talking to others. if the two sides do not work as well wiht each other then your brain will develop in a diff way, this makes you better at spacul (working out spaces, reading maps and the like)
    this has all been proven.

    and as for amp it's not about checking your spelling, that is just checking your typeing. if you have bad dyslexia you can not spell things. even when you know there wrong. i can try spelling some thing i will know that it's spelt wrong, i know it's wrong and i can try 100 diff whys to spell it but. but i do not know why, (it's diff for ever Dyslexia person )

    as a person who has the worst level of Dyslexia i know what it's like, i can speed read and have never had a problem wiht reading. but wrigheing, when i did a test for spelling just over 2 years ago i was off the chart for not beening able to spell, (ie they did not have a level low enuf to mark me) it's not funney when you walk in to a bank and you can not spell your own name, and i'm not jokeing that dose happen.

    i have read more that 99% of people about it other that people working at the A.C.L.D.
    people still joke about it but try beening in school 10-5 years ago when teachers did not even know what Dyslexia was, let alon know what to do.
    Dyslexia is a diff way of thinking, would i like to be able to spell yea, would i change the person i am just to be able to spell never. Dyslexia makes you think in a diff way to 95% of the people in the world, it has chanced me and i think i'm better for it in the long run. (spelling still sucks but smile.gif

    and the best way of puting it is this
    "It's a poor mind that can think of just one way to spell a word"
    mark Twane (guy wrouht huck bery fin)

    Coyote

    You try to be smarter,
    And I will try to be nicer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Coyote


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dre as in Dray:
    were can you get tested for dyslexia ?</font>
    http://www.acld-dyslexia.com/

    Coyote



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,484 ✭✭✭Gerry


    I agree with shinji's earlier post.
    Basically if you read a badly spelled post on the internet, with bad grammar, you don't know for certain that this person is dyslexic. If they are, well they can't help it, so I don't see the problem. I can't understand people who would have a problem with this. However, if they are not dyslexic, and they just can't be bothered writing properly, its extremely annoying. In my experience, I have found that I can always read a dyslexic persons post, spelling mistakes and all, because when you ignore the spelling mistakes, they are still making sense. Its non-dyslexic people who rush, and make no sense at all who are annoying, because you can't even get the gist of what they are saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    The only real difficulties I suffer from are my spelling and reading out in front of people.

    You all probably had to do spelling in primary school where the teacher sets 10 words each week. Imagine being the person in the class who always got 1 out of 10.
    As a child not being able to spell made me feel stupid but I always knew I wasn’t and could not understand why spelling was so difficult for me. As a result of my spelling being so bad my hand writhing became very bad to cover up the mistakes in my spelling

    KARN
    “Unfortunately, many teachers aren't equipped to deal with it and they get angry when despite a student's best efforts, they can't get their spellings right.”

    Don’t I know it! mad.gif
    My English teacher in secondary school was told I had difficulties spelling. The first time I had to hand in an English essay to her (I was about 13), she brought me up to the top of the class and said in front of the whole class “I’ve heard about your spelling lets see your essay.” She then proceeded to read out every spelling mistake to every one saying things like “Oh my God look at this, this is a disgrace!” It was a long essay and nearly every line had spelling mistakes in it. She totally humiliated me in front of my class who I did not know that well yet frown.gif. How that I look back on it I realise that no one in my class ever said anything about it to me which says a lot really, they knew she had gone too far.
    I also was given no dispensation in the L.C. and as a result failed English, had to do a PLC and am now studying in England.

    There are a huge number of dyslexic Architects around. There is even one company in the U.S. that only hire dyslexic architects as apparently aptitude tests have shown they are more suitable to this carrier. smile.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭Evil Phil


    Oh yeah, the public humiliation that is so important to educating young people. (B*stards) I hated school.

    Anyway:
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
    whats going to happen when she goes out for a job in a field where spelling is everything ...
    </font>

    She'll use a spell checker, same as the rest of us, same as all the other dyslexic engineers. I was once the technical writer for an entire department (woooooh!) biggrin.gif

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Unfortunately, many teachers aren't equipped to deal with it and they get angry when despite a student's best efforts, they can't get their spellings right.</font>

    My parents were told that I was the worse student in my school for 20 years, and that the staff couldn't understand it as I wasn't a messer (ffs!). Nobody, and I mean nobody thought that maybe I had some problems like dyslexia. It was suggested that I leave school early and get a trade. Anyway, I finished school getting 2 D's and a C in pass subjects (LC) and honestly believed I was stupid, "Oh great" thought the young me, and started a course in remedial furniture making or something. About a year later I say a program on dyslexia and convinced my parents to get me tested. Turns out I am dyslexic so I went back to school and got 6 honours, although I dropped down grades as explained above, in honour subjects. "Oh GREAT" thought a much more confident me.

    Of all the students of that first school I've met, I'm the most successful. Not that I'm looking down on the other students, but "get a trade", huh, idiots!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil Phil:
    It was suggested that I leave school early and get a trade.</font>

    heh heh, I was told that too by my career counselor. smile.gif bastid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭[fist]Snowball


    DON'T LEAVE SCHOOL OVER DYSLEXIA!!!!!!

    I did and now I hav'in a **** time tryin to get back into collage. Do ur leavin (it will be hard but there is help out there all u have to do is ask, also there is special circumstances out there for dyslexics doin' the leavin. JUST ASK!!!) u'll find it hard but in the end u can take a year off later and get some help to help u deal with collage.

    Good luck guys!!!

    Snowball.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭Thorbar


    I'm a Dyslexic too but luckily for me my older brother who used to help me with my homework in primary realized I had a problem and got me tested at 7. I've got problems with spelling but seeing as I've spent the last 11 or so years working with it I've been able to improve my english to a fairly acceptable standard. I still have trouble with the difference been then and than and you're and your. I got a 66 in honors English in the mocks and was fairly chuffed. But the **** heads at the dept. of Ed don't believe I'm really a dyslexic for whatever reason even though I've got 2 different doctor's reports defining me as classic dyslexic. I've got an exemption from Irish and today I'm waiting for the dept. of education's appeal court to see if I can get extra time and spelling allowances.

    I generally spell check for everything I write over the net except for IRC and in-game for obvious reasons. It isn't that much of a hassle and you get used to coping and pasting into outlook for a quick check. Well played boards for putting in a spell checker but is it in American english?

    As for teachers humiliating me it hasn't been too bad. A few don't know or understand what dyslexia is but as I'm a fairly hard worker they've been fine. One old ******* asked me in front of the class if I really believed dyslexia existed and wondered out load if it wasn't a fancy name for laziness.

    oh and what shagger picked a word like dyslexia for a spelling disorder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Thorbar1:

    oh and what shagger picked a word like dyslexia for a spelling disorder?
    </font>

    probably someone trying to spell something completely different....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭irishguy


    first off i am dyslexic,i did my lc dis year on a tape i.e i recorded my ans on a tape [its realy hard 2 do an essay dis way]
    i am not that bad only writing,memory & spelling .but its strange i spelling is getting realy bad e.g latey i cant spell some of the days of the week,my memory have improved a good bit and my writing is the same 4 years strange huh? also it doesent help cus i work in argos and you have 2 find stock with a 7 diget number that i keep mixing up.the worst thing is sending a txt cus u have no spell cheak and it is imbarrssing when u cant spell every day words.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Lucy_la_morte


    I remember seeing a programme on television about dyslexia. Apparantly (like what Bob the Unlucky Octopus said), people with it are autistic. The programme shown that people who are autistic can visualise images better to compensate for their lower ability to process text. This makes the person themselves exceed at creativity. For a budding artist, such as myself, I am somewhat jealous of people with dyslexia.

    The programme also shown some very successful people who are diagnosed with dyslexia. One of which was Richard Branson (entreprenuer), another being Guy Ritchie (director/script writer/producer). Most certainly, dyslexia is not a disadvantage.

    Miaow.

    Lucy la morte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Doc:
    There are a huge number of dyslexic Architects around. There is even one company in the U.S. that only hire dyslexic architects as apparently aptitude tests have shown they are more suitable to this carrier. smile.gif</font>


    No offense, but lazy / dyslexic / illiterate / dyslexic Architects are the bane of my life and have given me more than one nervous breakdown.



    Too many freaks, not enough circuses.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    My brother in law is viciously dyslexic.
    All the things you describe happened to him and more (he's older then me ffs smile.gif times were very different back then).

    He's now commercial director for Pierres foods (the people who do all the pizzas you guys gobble). He speaks several languages and does all their marketing for several countries even though to this day he still suffers from it fairly badly.

    Bottom line is you can let it stop you (it *is* after all a convienent and genuine excuse) or you can pucker up and say lifes a ***** and achieve your potential.

    After all, most of you here are considerably brighter then the average bear. Life deals a varied hand to us all it would seem!

    DeVore.

    ps: That teacher thing was fncked tho!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 BOY-WONDER


    dyslexia is a hereditary condition read any of the many wonderful books by Professor T.R Miles and Elaine Miles on dyslexia which should be compulsory reading for all in the Teaching profession


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 BOY-WONDER


    Why is it that the Dept of Education in Ireland refuse to believe that there is Dyslexia in this country?? I went to the Depts Phsycologistin Ross House in Galway (sorry about the spelling) to get the Special Consideration in my Junior Cert. and he basically just said to me to write carefully!!!! Geez I never thought of that! I just loved writing in a carefree manner!!! He helped me in my Junior Cert. to no end!!!

    ps
    THE ABOVE MESSAGE IS TOTALLY SARCASTIC IN CASE YOU DIDNT FIGURE



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