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Evelyn Cusack: ‘Social media forecasters - stop issuing your own weather warnings. It’s an official

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    Another weather book, you'd think they could write something else. Perhaps a book on earthquakes 😁🫣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 midlander12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Putting Joanne in her place..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Carlow weather comments on weather warnings (respon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Sorry, last post appeared to have posted by accident. What i meant to post is that Carlow weather comments on weather warnings but does not issue them . Carlow weather gives a very informed commentary on the weather. Carlow weather is always very responsible commenting on any impending adverse weather!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Is this the same Elelyn Cusack that got it sooooooooooooo wrong at the ploughing championship some years ago😒 She's so full of sh#t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Yeah he's one of the better ones. He does seem to get a lot of tv/radio exposure on the likes of Virgin and Today fm/newstalk for some reason which always surprises me. NOt sure RTE ever have him on and use the more reliable MEt Eireann when talking about the weather



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    does seem to get a lot of tv/radio exposure for some reason which always surprises me

    He got big on Twitter (don't know if he's on other social media), you're not going to go viral posting on boards...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,605 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Plonker

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I don't know

    @CarlowWeather Former head of forecasting in Met Éireann Evelyn Cusack says it could be 20 years time before weather warnings are more granular than county by county. Something the UK Met Office already do. I hope current Met Éireann management are a little more ambitious!

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    You'd think they'd be able to differentiate between 'coastal' and inland regions at least,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    If they can give a warning for micro counties like louth & Carlow etc, why can't they split up the bigger counties ?

    Cork is like ~170 km long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    His warnings don't carry official weight, ie. red warning means all schools close etc. so he can draw a line on a map without regard to county (or Eircode or local electoral area) boundaries, without having to worry about communicating to the whole country, 'this area: ok; this area: not ok'...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Tzmaster90


    i am guessing you don't like his forecasting why ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭Thunder87


    It's a free country.. Met Eireann don't have a god given monopoly on weather forecasting any more so than any other public service can't have private alternatives, e.g. just look next door in the UK where the "official" BBC forecasts are provided by a private company, not the Met Office.

    The article is paywalled but I assume the point is that it muddies the waters around warnings etc which is fair enough I suppose, but I'd say that's a bigger conversation around people taking things they read on social media at face value and also how much ridiculous hype and hysteria has been built up around the warning system over the past 10 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭OldRio


    The only hype and hysteria I see is done via appalling click bait articles and links. Weather bomb me hole. Etc etc. People are easily manipulated nowadays. Common sense belongs to a bygone era.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,677 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    To me the commentary from Evelyn is more of an indication that ME aren't communicating effectively in the social media space, allowing the click-baiters and 'rampers' to move in on what they perceive as their space, gaining likes and follows and ad revenue along with it.

    Forecasting is a curious business when it comes to precision - no one can predict for the precise nuances of the land. Yet, people seem less willing to accept that uncertainty these days. With social media overflowing with amateur forecasters offering their hot takes, it’s no surprise that some members of the public believe they’re getting more “accurate” predictions for their exact patch of sky. You’ll hear complaints like, “ME didn’t tell me I was getting five minutes of rain at 12…” It’s easy to see why they’re drawn to what appears as local expertise. The same logic extends to nowcasting, official sources like ME can’t (read: don't and shoudn't) match the immediacy of someone live-posting to their followers as the clouds roll in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭OldRio


    I don't think you can blame ME for people's stupidity. Some people believe Facebook because it's Facebook. It is their Bible. Their doctrine. Look at the state of the world. It's just not weather forecasting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,677 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Oh no, not implying that in any way; but they could communicate better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    There's a valid point against Met Eireann in terms of the county by county warnings alright. It's a nonsense way to do things, especially in long thin counties like Cavan and Leitrim, or the geographically large counties - Cork, Galway etc. By all means identify which counties are included, but also show lines on a map showing if it's only one part of the county.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Well theres a super storm coming Thursday according to Galway Beo n i take everything they say as gospel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭MattieMolloy


    It's wild how much airtime he gets despite not being qualified.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Mr.CoolGuy


    The county system makes sense and I don't agree for one second that it's a bad way to do things.

    Do you think there'd be less confusion if they started going by barony or by nautical mile or by crow-fly km distance from your nearest coastline or mountain top? It would be an absolute disaster.

    People know counties, they know the boundaries, for the most part they're a relatively even way of grouping a small country in a number of smaller sections. It's not like other countries which would have Ireland sized counties on the same level as small city boundaries. It's a relatively even spread despite the imperfections.

    People need to grow up and realise they're not going to ever get perfectly accurate weather down to their Eircode. I'm in east-ish Cork so I know most wind/rain warnings are not likely to impact me because I apply the smallest amount of critical thinking about it. If your part of the county wasn't hit as badly then get over it. "Oh the storm knew to stop a the county bounds is it?!" is Facebook level dumbarsery

    It doesn't take a genius to work out that Met Eireann try to stay away from ambiguity in their reporting in order to not send mixed messaging. They look at the most likely scenario and report on that. Carlow Weather and the likes can spend longer talking about things into their phone's and mention probabilities and potential storm-paths etc. If Met Eireann did that they'd be absolutely hammered by most people for waffling on.

    I don't get the complaints on this forum about the county system at all. It's quite clear there's no other way to do this that won't result in more confusion/inaccuracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    She is completely right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,867 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Ireland is a small island on the edge of a 3000 mile wide ocean .

    To think anyone can forecast the weather accurately for small precise areas is bonkers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    As was said above, counties like Cavan/ Lietrim should be handy to differentiate between East / West, or Tipperary North / South

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    This is a myth.

    The island of Ireland is the 22nd largest on our planet, out of thousands.

    😁

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,867 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    This is the crap that could drive a person to drink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    cop yourself on and relax.

    It was a joke ffs.

    Enjoy your drink.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,338 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I'm not in my front room, I'm in an office halfway down the hall to the loo. Does that absolve me?



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