RTÉ asks EBU to talk about Israel being in the Eurovision Song Contest.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123437333#Comment_123437333

I was summing up the post I was quoting.

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123436221#Comment_123436221

Good man. Spout the old Genocide guff '' there are no innocents in Gaza ''. Hope you have no children because they'd deserve better.

Mod Edit: Warned for attacking the poster

odyssey06

You can vote multiple times in the Eurovision from multiple devices. I've never seen figures on how many votes are made per country. So as a 'poll' of the majority or widespread view of Israel - EV votes are completely unreliable.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123437173#Comment_123437173

LOL.
i mean what does one say to this nonsense?
it is a fact israel are committing genocide, they have effectively told us that is what they are doing, their intent is to eradicate the palestinian people from their land.
was there an intent to eradicate the german people in WWII? no, there wasn't.
were there some abhorrant war crimes committed against german civilians? absolutely.
the current war was not started by hamas as it is only part of the nearly 80 year conflict.
the israely contestant surviving the october 7th terrorist attack is not relevant to the eurovision song contest, the only thing that is relevant is the country she represents which is a genocidal racist apartheid state.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123437298#Comment_123437298

but as we know israel isn't trying to free any hostages.

in fact it's government have shown and even more or less stated that they don't and never did care about the hostages, they had an opportunity to get them all back and they refused not to mention the IDF murdered 3 of them.

most of the people killed in the current genocide against the palestinian people are civilians.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123426279#Comment_123426279

They are well connected in the United States tbf, but at the same time there is a lean towards seeing Israel as all powerful on the left that follows a lot of the beats the far right have spent years saying "the Jews" are running the world with.

It's actually mind boggling to see people going all in with Palestine to the point of supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and talking openly about how Israel is pulling the strings of the world when they'd be shocked by far right groups saying exactly the same things about "The Jew's".

What's most surprising regarding Euro vision is that anyone sees it as being part of a serious conversation about the Gaza conflict to begin with.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123437663#Comment_123437663

Wrong, wrong, and wrong, just as you were wring a few hours ago on most tunnels being made by the Israelis. The vast network of tunnels in Gaza was built by Hamas, for warfare ( or called terrorism by some) and smuggling purposes.

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123436221#Comment_123436221

yeah I know right? Those babies especially they’re the worst of them. I heard one of them was laughing when the HAMAS lads were telling stories about how they raped the Israeli women.

Them babies are evil man. Can’t be trusted.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123434933#Comment_123434933

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Tazz T

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123434951#Comment_123434951

because propaganda.straight from the Nazi playbook.. they were instructed to be there.

AllForIt

I can't quite belive they are doing this. It just seems really petty. Whether you agree there is genocide happening or not, I don't think the results of the Eurovision Song Contest have any influcence on the conflict whatsoever. The whole voting system has always been a joke anyway.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2025/0520/1513954-rte-requests-breakdown-of-eurovision-voting-numbers/

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468915#Comment_123468915

The ESC allows Israel to portray themselves as some sort of normal country instead of the sick and depraved country they really are. They should have been banned from the ESC last year, under the exact same criteria as Russia was banned.

StevenToast

The Russian bots were out in force to get the vote up for Israel....

Thats your real "axis of evil" right there....

Russian war crimes pale in comparison to Israel....

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469014#Comment_123469014

Two mirror images actually in their actions. They have no problem murdering, land grabbing and and are led by lunatics while crying all the time about being victimised.

McFly85

The Israeli government’s actions in Gaza should exclude them from the competition. For one, they shouldn’t be given the opportunity to artswash their image on the world stage while inflicting so much violence against the Palestinian people.

Secondly, it’s a huge problem for the integrity of the competition - it’s clear that the public voting is inherently political and skews the results. We’re just going to have gamed public voting every year this goes on.

Would be happy enough for Ireland to not send anyone next year if Israel are still involved.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468915#Comment_123468915

Multiple broadcasters from multiple countries have raised questions about the voting. I don't see the issue with requesting transparency where there are concerns. Particularly since this seems to be used by some as a sign of support for Israel's actions in Gaza. Surely, you and others would be happy for it to validated, right?

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469132#Comment_123469132

Words like art and integrity have no place in the same sentence as Eurovision.

RTE demanding an inquest into how Israel had such an unprecedented vote in a competition that has been an absolute disgrace for well over a generation while we can't house people in this country is a tone deaf attempt to play to the gallery on an issue that really isn't important to begin with.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469309#Comment_123469309

Flemish and Spanish broadcasters have asked the same of the EBU. I don't view it as tone deaf and would be inclined to say you're engaging in some whataboutery. It's pretty clear which kinds of posters are outraged by RTE and other broadcasters raising it.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469323#Comment_123469323

How am I engaged in whataboutery?

I'm merely stating that Ireland Inc (and RTE as the state broadcaster is very much a part of that) has bigger fish to fry than to dig into why Israel did so well in the bloody Eurovision.

It isn't very important in the grand scheme of things.

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469344#Comment_123469344

well I personally while I wouldn’t watch the Eurovision I certainly wouldn’t want Ireland competing if there was any type of foul play involved in voting etc.

I think this is also unlikely to be the case here though. I imagine if anything it was either irrespective of the Gaza situation or bad actors trying to stir trouble. If so they have succeeded to some extent anyway.

Grayson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123437182#Comment_123437182

To be fair, the bombing campaign against germany would have been classed as a war crime. That's because it wasn't targeting nazis. It was targeting the destruction of german cities and their populace.

That's not being pro nazi's. the nazi's were the ones who started the war. the nazi's were the ones who slaughtered loads of their own population in concentration camps and through euthanasia programs. The nazis invaded other countries and killed millions of innocent civilians through forced labor and extermination programs, including extermination camps. The nazi's are definitely the bad guys.

But that doesn't mean the allies didn't commit war crimes against civilians. There's certain things about the allied bombing strategy that would count as war crimes. firebombing entire cities for one.

Now people may argue that it was necessary to win the war. But that's not saying what happened wasn't a war crime by later standards. It's saying that it was necessary to defeat a greater evil.

Francie Barrett

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123426471#Comment_123426471

If RTE want to start getting involved in politics, then the licence fee should become optional.

People shouldn't be coerced to support things they don't agree with the threat of incarceration., because that's what happens if you don't pay the licence fee.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469709#Comment_123469709

The fact that there's no protests outside of RTE because their union supports Palestine would tend to indicate you're in the minority tbh.

Francie Barrett

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123427044#Comment_123427044

Claims there's no anti-semitism here, then proceeds to makes the following anti-semitic remark in his very next post.

The popular vote was organised by the Isreal and Jewish propaganda office. You may be sure every Jew I. Europe and beyond voted at least 10 times.

Francie Barrett

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469712#Comment_123469712

You've got it wrong, the pro-Palestine brigade are in the tiny minority.

Only a few thousand people marched in Dublin for them at the weekend. The other 5.3 million other Irish citizens stayed at home.

Fr Tod Umptious

If anyone is really seriously against Isreal and their participation in Eurovision then this is what should happen.

The National Union of Journalist should tell RTE that they will strike if RTE don't pull out of Eurovision because of the involvement of Israel.

If RTE pulls out great, they have put their money where their mouth is and taken a real stand.

And if others follow them then they know that they have their support.

If others don't follow them they know that the rest of Europe isn't as concerned by Israel as they think.

If RTE don't pull out then they have a battle with the NUJ to fight.

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469743#Comment_123469743

How many turned up for the "pro-Israel" march?

Using your logic it should have been somewhere in or around 5.3 million?

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469730#Comment_123469730

Its nothing to do with that. The vote was simply hijacked by the Mossad.

The most resourceful, most effective intelligence/counter-intelligence organisation in the world, who successfully hacked into several thousand pagers, distributed them among Hizbollah in Lebanon and detonated them simultaneously - an act so audacious it would be implausible if you saw it in a movie - and people doubt they couldn't hack a global phone and text vote?

Easiest thing they've ever done. And they've just done it two years in a row.

McFly85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123469709#Comment_123469709

How are they getting involved in politics? They are members of the EBU and have to spend money to organise and send acts to their competition. If they have queries about the detailed public vote they should be well within their rights to vote query it.

The_Kew_Tour

It's kinda ironic that the biggest supporters of the Eurovision are people who want inclusion and fairness yet the Eurovisuon itself is probably the most unfair and corrupt competition you can get.

All for the world to see.