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£2k/ €2350Pre build

  • 07-04-2025 04:16PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭


    Going pre built I think because don't have the time or patience to build my own & I can write off against tax . What do ye think of the price and components from Pc specialst ? Going to have to over pay I know but don't want be fleeced either . Thanks in advance for any help .

    Case
    CORSAIR FRAME 4000D RS ARGB MODULAR
    Promotional Item
    Get a discount code for 20% off select peripherals at Corsair.com
    Processor (CPU)
    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core CPU (Up to 5.2GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
    Motherboard
    ASUS® TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
    Memory (RAM)
    16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz CL40 (1 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card
    16GB GIGABYTE RADEON™ RX 9070 XT GAMING OC - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP
    1st M.2 SSD Drive
    1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ ATX 3.1, MODULAR, CYBENETICS GOLD
    Power Cable
    1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
    Processor Cooling
    PCS FrostFlow 240 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler - WHITE
    Thermal Paste
    STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Network Card
    ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
    Wireless Network Card
    NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
    USB/Thunderbolt Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
    Operating System Language
    United Kingdom - English Language
    Windows Recovery Media
    Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
    Office Software
    FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
    Anti-Virus
    Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
    Browser
    Microsoft® Edge
    Warranty
    3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
    Delivery
    STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
    Welcome Book
    PCSpecialist Welcome Book
    Logo Branding
    PCSpecialist Logo
    Packaging
    PCS Corsair Carton Upright

    Price: €0.00 including VAT and Delivery

    Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/vRAV5GzH8F/

    Post edited by brady12 on


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Coyler


    https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/NXnJqH

    As comparison for a very similar build from parts. Your money, your choice. No judgement here on pre-builds.

    That said, increase your RAM from 16GB to 32GB and change it to 6000Mhz CL30. I would insist on it to the point that you drop to the 7800X3D if you had to. 5200Mhz RAM for a X3D CPU is a bad pairing. It's not the ideal for AM5 CPUs anyway but for X3D CPUs it's worse again.

    Pro-tip: You can save money and drop the OS. You can pick up a key for buttons from various gray markets and download the image directly from Microsoft. Perfectly legally as per the ECJ. Just pick up a USB stick to install the OS which you'll have to prep on a seperate computer. Of course you'll need drivers but as this is an AMD build it's basically one download apart from the onboard audio. Again, if that sounds like hassle, totally understand. Just presenting ideas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    What monitor?

    You can do as above or use your old Windows license on your new PC unless you want it to keep it on that machine.

    The PCS coolers are awful, either the one below or get the cheapest and then replace it yourself with a Peerless Assassin 120

    The best ram they have is RGB unfortunately , I have it in my own for the same reason

    The 4000d fans are loud, these are cheap and much better but no ARGB https://www.amazon.ie/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-Pack-Pressure-optimised/dp/B07HC782D5/ref%3Dsr_1_1?sr=8-1

    Use TRMZ24 as a promo code for 37 euro off

    Case
    CORSAIR FRAME 4000D RS ARGB MODULAR
    Processor (CPU)
    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core CPU (Up to 5.2GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
    Motherboard
    ASUS® TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
    Memory (RAM)
    32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 (2 x 16GB)
    Graphics Card
    16GB GIGABYTE RADEON™ RX 9070 XT GAMING OC - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP
    1st M.2 SSD Drive
    1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ ATX 3.1, MODULAR, CYBENETICS GOLD
    Power Cable
    1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
    Processor Cooling
    CORSAIR NAUTILUS 240 RS ARGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
    Thermal Paste
    STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Network Card
    ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
    Wireless Network Card
    NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
    USB/Thunderbolt Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Operating System
    NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
    Operating System Language
    United Kingdom - English Language
    Windows Recovery Media
    NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
    Office Software
    FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
    Anti-Virus
    NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
    Browser
    Microsoft® Edge
    Warranty
    3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
    Delivery
    2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days

    Price: €2,496.00 including VAT and Delivery

    Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/qdcwQu94pZ/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/xjcvyMdBuP/

    Changes:

    • Case: Lian Li Lancool 205 C Mesh: A better case than the Corsair, with 2x 140mm RGB fans
    • RAM: 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 CL30
    • SSD: 2TB Corsair Core XT MP600
    • extra case fans: 1x PCS 120mm
    • Operating System: No Operating System required (create installation media on a spare USB drive, buy a cheap activation key for <2eur from grey market)
    • Anti-Virus: DO NOT ALLOW NORTON ONTO YOUR SYSTEM
    • Install AIO on top
    • total €2,437.00 inc. VAT

    optional change: PC cooler to PCS Frostflow 150/200 series (air) or Corsair Nautilus (upgraded 240)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭brady12


    Why no to norton ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭brady12


    I'm sorted for tv & monitor



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Coyler


    Norton is completely pointless. Windows Defender is built in and does the same job far more efficiently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭brady12


    I would like to say to all of ye thanks very much . Ye all gave helpful comments and i spent few nights going over them and tweaking build . Thanks to ye I have a better build and a better value for money build 👐👍🏻

    I didn't know about norton being crap either so that's great to know for my current build and my laptop .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭brady12


    Hi again . Two months ago I was on verge ordering this build and just got so busy with work I left it for awhile and just stuck with my 3060ti built for now .

    Now I am having second thoughts. I am thinking long term . If I go with AMD over NVIDIA how future proof am I ? If I stick with this build will my case be big enough long term ye think? I want to buy pre built now and I will upgrade the parts myself down the road . I am willing to spend more on this build to future proof it for tweaking . Or should I go NVIDIA altogether if I am thinking long term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    9800X3D - relatively future-proof for the next 5+ years. 3D v-cache which helps GPUs render frames better and that's unlikely to be outperformed by anything soon.

    Lian Li Lancool 205 C Mesh has 350mm GPU clearance, which should be more than adequate - next generation of GPUs should hopefully use less power than this generation. Ditto for 850W PSU.

    9070 XT is around 70-80% faster than RX 9060 XT, which is faster than a PS5 Pro. But you could do what I do & just upgrade GPU before it loses all its value - I sold my RTX 3080 10GB for around half the cost of a 9070 XT.

    Alternatively, run the GPU until it literally can't run new games anymore & save your money in the meantime.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭brady12


    that's defo the cpu im going with . gpu is the thing I need make up my mind on . Think I am just going to build it myself now . I took the first steps tonight by removing the GPU and ram on my pre build and cleaning it thoroughly mainly just get used to the components and removing and installing them again because I have 0 experience . Watched some you tube videos while doing it on taking apart and re building pcs . I will be using LG C4 48 inch as monitor for time being .

    Case CORSAIR 175R RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4) Motherboard ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready! Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB) Graphics Card 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR 1st M.2 SSD Drive 1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW) Memory Card Reader USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER Power Supply CORSAIR 650W CV SERIES™ CV-650 POWER SUPPLY Power Cable 1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead) Processor Cooling STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) Network Card 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

    Is there anything salvageable from this Pc specialist pre build I bought in 2021 bar the ssd ? case maybe ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    If you're using a 4K TV then the CPU used barely matters - though 3D V-cache would still help.

    You could really lower your costs though.

    PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/xwQHjn

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor (€224.87 @ Caseking)
    CPU Cooler: Thermalright Royal Knight 120 80.45 CFM CPU Cooler (€35.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€104.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€55.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
    Power Supply: Phanteks AMP GH 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€115.89 @ Caseking)
    Total: €537.45
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-06-13 15:03 CEST+0200

    Then whatever case you fancy, as big an SSD as you want to buy (2TB seems to be price/GB king) and lots of moolah for RX 9070 XT / RTX 5070 Ti/5080.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭brady12


    Why the 5700X3D over the 9800X3D ? Because myself c4 limited to 144 hz ? Ya I am wrecking my own head with GPU - must decide ! And thank you again for suggestions !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    At 4K, the GPU is always the bottleneck.

    A 9800X3D will be no more than ~6% faster than a 5700X3D.



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