Are asexuals 'fake oppressed'? **Mod Note in Post #221**

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341175#Comment_123341175

People have different opinions. Personally, and I am only speaking for myself, I think raising awareness of such things that are very niche has the opposite effect that is intended and is purely for so-called virtuous people to grandstand and show how progressive they are.

This is obviously not true for everyone, but I can safely say that the majority of people I have encountered espousing their support are doing so for their own benefit, and not for the benefit of people affected. A social caché so to speak.

I didn't reduce it to a kink. I just said that a lack of sexual attraction would be somewhat akin to a kink. There was no reduction. If you feel otherwise, I would be interested in hearing why you differentiate.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341214#Comment_123341214

An innate characteristic simply has no comparison to a kink so ya, I think it's a pretty bad example. You also haven't illustrated an issue with awareness, you've just vaguely claimed there's an issue outside of random buzzwords around virtue signaling which isn't saying a whole lot. Meanwhile I and others have pointed out that emphasising community and awareness is very much so beneficial for a grouping that is an incredibly small minority.

If I'm entirely honest, the people who appear to have an issue with the day are only doing so because the love Rowling's transphobic views.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341214#Comment_123341214

I think raising awareness of such things that are very niche has the opposite effect that is intended and is purely for so-called virtuous people to grandstand and show how progressive they are.

That's one possible reason. There's another - there are lots and lots of funding opportunities for niche LGBT related NGO's and personal projects. You can bet your bottom dollar that someone with a degree in gender studies or similar zero real-world employment prospects is drawing a nice grant to promote this. Like the immigration racket, the LGBT industry is constantly throwing out new growth areas due to all the money sloshing around it. In a few years, you'll have companies and government departments hiring "asexual officers". Most of these fringe interests are built on grifting.

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341235#Comment_123341235

Yeah I reckoned you may go along with the whole "transphobic" angle even though asexuality has nothing to do with it. The only tangent bringing it back to it is that JK Rowling was in the OP.

Although I also share the incredibly strange view that men and women are different, my view that asexuality having a day of awareness is a little silly does not intersect with the other fact.

But sure, I guess we are all obsessed with wizards too.

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341243#Comment_123341243

That is a distinct possibility but I wouldn't be banking on it as much as I would the people wanting to pretend to be the most wholesome progressive people.

But yeah, I get where you are coming from. The "progressive" types are often just useful idiots for grifters.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341243#Comment_123341243

And now moving onto ngo conspiracy theories.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341300#Comment_123341300

I was waiting for one of you to comment on the inclusion of NGO's.

It's hilarious how those in the NGO industry jump like a scalded cat when you mention them. Almost as if there's something they know 😂

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341268#Comment_123341268

It may be worth having a look at who the grifters generally are and who their target audience usually is.

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341313#Comment_123341313

Oh I know there are plenty of grifters on both ends of the political/social spectrum.

It's just some people are so entrenched in their views that they think it's purely one sided.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341214#Comment_123341214

I think raising awareness of such things that are very niche has the opposite effect that is intended

How could that be the case?

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341379#Comment_123341379

Very easily.

People who have no sexual attraction to others will see that it is unusual and the internet being the internet, will see negative connotations attached to their lack of sexuality, leaving them to feel unable to properly express themselves.

As I have said, this isn't for the people who are asexual. It's a nonsense.

October 29th is world psoriasis day. Do you think people who have psoriasis felt alone until they magically felt seen on the one day a year they are recognised?! It's bullshit.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341401#Comment_123341401

That's ridiculous! Why would they think it's unusual by learning that many other people feel the same? That's the opposite of unusual.

The only negative thing surrounding this day, was JK Rowling making fun of them, and belittling them.

Of course it's for asexual people, and those that may share their lives with asexual people.

There may be thousands of people suffering from psoriasis in silence, they may not know what it is and may be embarrassed to show anyone or ask about it. Should we expect a thread from you that day to show how uninterested you are in that silly day?

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341425#Comment_123341425

Considering I didn't create this thread, it would be unlikely that I would create one. I just contribute to threads that pique my interest when I see it on the homepage. Then when I get quoted, I respond.

You may see that as me taking an intense and passionate interest. It isn't.

I think you may be infantalising the asexual community. If they are online to see the day that was in it, they would have been acutely aware that there are people who feel like them.

The whole "we see you" bullshit is patronising.

Gentlemanne

Does anyone else think these psoriasis sufferers shouldn't have a special dedicated day, when they haven't even asked *me* yet

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341401#Comment_123341401

So really, you're struggling to prove your claim. Eg this thread does have people being negative or misrepresenting but it is from people objecting to the day.

And I'm a person with a chronic illness, the awareness days are very much so helpful. Particularly for those with chronic and largely invisible illnesses.

Gentlemanne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123340599#Comment_123340599

sorry to pinpoint just one aspect of your post but your "they could just Google it" is hilarious, extremely funny when there's guys saying saying they can't Google because they're in the middle of driving

Gentlemanne

I actually do know a woman who's asexual. She struggled a lot with relationships and realized only later in life she experiences no interest in sex but she has romantic urges regardless.

I've never wished her a happy asexual awareness day but if I asked her what she thought of it if she was like "uhhhhh it actually makes people MORE prejudiced against us" I'd probably ask if she's just had a stroke

Rothko

Anyone that says that JK Rowling deserves to burn in hell is utterly deranged and unhinged.

Gentlemanne

I completely agree. Show me a single example of that

nachouser

I'd imagine the Venn diagram of Rowling and Farage fanboys is just a circle.

Hoboo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337960#Comment_123337960

Talk about living up to a stereotype, Jesus H.

osarusan

It might help a few people who are asexual understand more about who they are. So that's a good thing.

I cannot think of a single negative impact that could come out of having a day like this.

Somebody mentioned it being 'counterproductive' but I cannot see how that could be.

So I can't see any logical reason to be against this day existing. It'll either impact people positively, ot not in any way whatsoever.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123338192#Comment_123338192

I never suggested that I was being silenced, so you can put that strawman to bed.

It's fairly obvious to those who have observed Rowling over time that the whole purpose of these claims is to let loose her TERF army, which overlaps heavily with the far right fascist thug army, on anyone who happens to have a different opinion to her, and to absolutely intimidate them into keeping their mouths shut in the future.

It's her whole schtik.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341243#Comment_123341243

And there's the standard far-right trope of complaining about the bogeyman-NGOs, beautifully vague of course, with no specific detail, just the poster's assurance that they're sure about this, so no actual evidence is needed.

Mattyonthepatty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123342022#Comment_123342022

Terfs are feminists are they not?

I'm not sure there are many far right feminists out there never mind a brutal Army of them put together by an author.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341310#Comment_123341310

It's hilarious how you again, your main weapon is the FUD factor, Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt with no actual facts. I've nothing to do with the NGO sector, but I can spot a far-right trope from 500m away.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123342035#Comment_123342035

How you been following what Rowling has been up to over the past decade, and the company she has been keeping? Literal Nazis.

Hamsterchops

Great woman JK, big love and respect for her and her fight for women & girls ❤️ … also her financing of Beira's place (women's refuge).

Airyfairy12

I might be playing devil’s advocate here, but I don’t see J.K. Rowling as a terrible person. I genuinely believe in equal rights for everyone—that includes trans people, women, and girls. But I don’t think women’s rights and spaces should be dismissed or sacrificed in the process.

Take the Primark changing room issue, for example—after multiple incidents where men entered women’s cubicles, took photos, or opened curtains while women were changing, they had to bring back gendered spaces for safety. I’ve also been in gender-neutral toilets that were covered in urine, and a friend of mine was followed into one by a man she’d been trying to get away from on a date.

There have even been cases where male offenders claimed to be trans to gain access to women’s prisons—sometimes successfully, even if only temporarily. It makes me wonder why advocating for trans rights seems, in some cases, to come at the cost of women’s safety and dignity. If this is truly about equality, shouldn’t we be working toward safe, respectful, and inclusive spaces for everyone?

The idea that abusers will abuse anyway, so we shouldn’t have boundaries, is one of the most dismissive and dangerous responses I’ve heard. We should be able to talk about safety without being labelled hateful.

As for Asexuals, I think its great they have the space to be heard so other people like them dont feel alone or like theres something wrong with them. Maybe they feel strange and out of place in a world that is fixated on relationships, sex and marriage.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123342432#Comment_123342432

The whole changing room/toilet argument is totally mute. There is nothing stopping anyone from walking into any area that states it's for one particular sex. Nothing.

I myself walked into a male toilet, didn't realize and came out of a cubicle to see to guys having a pee in a urinal.