Dodgy number plates

AndrewJRenko

How dodgy is this?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123534523#Comment_123534523

GPoint

This thread needs to be fuelled :)

American style plates now

Yeah Right

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123538577#Comment_123538577

You didn't really answer the question, though, despite your claims to the contrary. If someone asks you what day you're going on holiday, and you answer 'yellow', yeah, technically you answered it, but it's not really an answer, is it? It's not that I dislike the answer, it's the fact that it's a non-answer which is the issue. "Why are you a hypocrite on this issue…….I'm not because [mumbles]"

The issue is indeed that you're now complaining that I didn't expand on my note of approval in the earlier post about disabling SUVs to explain that my approval was because they were disabling SUVs.

No, I'm not complaining about anything. This is you attempting to discredit me by labelling me as a moanbag. I'm highlighting your duplicitousness and hypocrisy. You're trying to paint me as something I'm not, because I'm highlighting your nonsense and your back is up.

Yet again, it would seem fairly obvious that my note of approval was because of what they were doing, rather than relating to some fine legal analysis.

People aren't mind readers. You never gave reasons for why you admired the law-breaking, you just said you admired them for taking the risk. Because of the consequences. Full stop. You never said you admire people who slash tyres because you're a fan of slashing tyres*, you said you admire them because of the risk of getting caught. Weaseling out of your words now when you're called out on the hypocrisy is more spineless behaviour….."oh, what I really meant was….."

Likewise, it would seem fairly obvious that my disapproval of illegal reg plates is because of what drivers do with illegal reg plates rather than any aesthetic issue.

I don't give a flying fcuk WHY you approve or disapprove off anything. I do care about hypocrites, especially sanctimonious ones who love to finger-wag at others breaking the law, yet are no strangers to cheering on and promoting law-breakers elsewhere when it suits them. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth, as already stated.

But regardless, your complaint now that I've taken a different view of two different legal violations is just silly. You might think it's some amazing gotcha to let you open up your long held grudge about a years-old discussion that is just a vague memory, but it's not really.

More attempts to discredit the person highlighting your self-righteous BS. I'm neither complaining, nor do I have a 'years long held grudge'. Because you've no comeback other than "no, that's not a contradiction, you're just a crank with an axe to grind". That's okay though, everyone can see it, which was the point of my post in the first place.

Acting all sanctimonious about one type of illegal act while fellating others who carry out another one (because it's illegal, remember) is straight down the middle, first-class hall of fame hypocrisy, no matter how you try to deny, deflect or tarnish the person who points it out.

*I have a feeling this is the real reason for your admiration. I also suspect that you never came out and said it at the time, because you'd have been run out of the thread. You're hinting at it now, though with some degree of plausible deniability……i.e. more open cowardice.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540123#Comment_123540123

I'm not sure how many times I can say it, but here we go - the reason for the different response to different illegal actions is because those actions are different, with different outcomes. Again, fairly obvious to anyone actually looking at the facts of what happened, but that doesn't seem to be of much interest to you.

You'd want to be very sure of your own position on the law before you go making accusations of hypocrisy. You'd want to be sure, for example, that you hadn't been advising people on how to hook up with illegal service providers before you go taking the high moral ground about any illegal action (particularly one that is so illegal that no-one has ever actually been prosecuted for it).

How's the SUV going for you, btw?

Yeah Right

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540261#Comment_123540261

Again, seeing as you're refusing to absorb this information, you never said that in the first place.

You're changing your story because you've been caught with your pants around your ankles contradicting yourself and trying to claim you meant something else (weaseling, cowardice, spineless….remember?). You said you admired them because of the risk of being caught, not because of what they were doing, but because it was risky. This risk applies as equally to the plate lads as it does to the scumbags interfering with others' private property. Now you've got the hump because you've been called out on the hypocrisy, so much so, that you've attempted to rewrite history and gone trawling through posts to find something, anything, to try and discredit me again (after your last attempt to discredit failed).

I'm not taking any moral high ground, that's your own projection. I'm not chastising you for doing anything illegal, like you were to others. I'm highlighting how you're, essentially, full of sh1t and your opinion on the legality of plates is worthless, because you've no problem with the illegality of it all, as evidenced by your admiration for others who do things illegally (purely because of the risk, remember).

Now you're struggling, like a drowning man, trying to cling onto anything to save face. I wasn't being a hypocrite (like you) because I wasn't admonishing others for doing illegal things while also breaking the law. I've zero qualms about breaking some laws. Zero. But you won't find me clucking my tongue at others who do, which is what you did. That's where the dichotomy lies…..(What was that about some amazing gotcha, again?)

How's the SUV going for you, btw?

Great, actually. Only killed 14 kids this week, which is a bit on the low side. You should see the executive diesel saloon I use going to the shops though. 👌 Don't really need one that big, but sure, how else is everyone s'posed to know how important I am?

How's the weather up there on that high horse?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540485#Comment_123540485

You seem a bit confused in your rage, so let's go back and take a look at the words that inspired your threats of violence last time round, which were;

"Actually, it’s not that easy to take action like this. It takes considerable courage to accept the risk of ending up with a criminal conviction."

which is a bit of a way from your rewriting of history as; "You said you admired them because of the risk of being caught".

Do you want to have another go now?

Yeah Right

"Rage"…………….you keep attempting to paint me as someone acting irrationally. Again, this is a ploy to deflect away from the fact that you've been caught in a contradiction. Same with 'threats of violence'. Like I'm some nutjob ready to fly off the handle for no reason. Transparent as fcuk. I never threatened anybody. I said it takes considerable courage to risk getting a smack of a hurley if I catch you out doing anything to my car. If I caught anyone interfering with the vehicle i use to ferry my family about, they'd get a few flakes of my size 36. that's not a threat, that's a fact. 70%+ of people reading this would do the same.

But, yeah, you go ahead and try to paint me as some rageaholic who can't control his temper, there's a good girl.

which is a bit of a way from your rewriting of history 

Those two sentences are almost identical in their meaning. Care to explain how they're different?

If you're going to go down some pedantic rabbit-hole about how you never said you admired anyone, GTFO……..'it taKEs cONsIDERaBLE CouRAgE!!!" is an expression of admiration in anyone's books. (Note, also, you've been accused of rewriting history by claiming you meant something else. You're now accusing me of the same in yet another attempt to discredit my words. As pitiful as it is sad and predictable).

Just admit you're a hypocrite. Everyone can see it anyway; throwing your toys out of the pram, digging your heels in, trawling through old posts, projecting, trying to discredit your discreditors……all it does is makes you look like a spoiled crybaby.

Anyway, we've been hijacking this thread long enough…….

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540627#Comment_123540627

Yes, no sign of any rage here at all at all;

 they'd get a few flakes of my size 36.

 you'd have a hard time explaining it to the guards with your jaw wired shut, followed by 4 months of all the soup and jelly you can eat.

 to risk getting a a smack of a hurley if I catch you out doing anything to my car

And 'girl' as an insult? Come on, you're better than that. It's not 1970 now.

I'm happy to admit to my failing in not listing all the crimes where I don't admire people taking the risk of getting caught, in case anyone thought that my comment specifically about the tyre extinguishers was some kind of general absolution of all kinds of criminals.

Would you be happy if we start a list?

Yeah Right

Wishy washy post that does nothing to address the points in my own post, simply still grasping at some lame attempt to discredit the person who pointed out your contradictions aside, nah, that's fine.

You're happy to admit your hypocrisy, that's all that was needed.

Enjoy the weekend.

I'll enjoy y own, rage-free one.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123540982#Comment_123540982

I was happy to confirm that I have different views on different scenarios from the outset. You seemed to think this was some kind of gotcha.

Yeah Right

You refused to accept that you were being a hypocrite, when you were.

They weren't two different scenarios. They were both instances of minor law-breaking.

You were encouraging others to do the former, even though it's illegal, and taking pot shots at folks for doing the latter because it's illegal.

Gladly, you've now accepted you were contradicting yourself, so we can move on.

I'll not be responding further, however, I'm also glad that your abandonment of………

i) accusing me of being a hypocrite (when I wasn't),

ii) me rewriting history (when I wasn't),

iii) your half-hearted, juvenile, pedantic claim that "It takes considerable courage to accept the risk" and "You said you admired them because of the risk" are materially different and

iv)your insistence that I was taking the high ground (when I wasn't)

…………….highlights to everyone else how paper-thin and insincere those accusations were. You were simply lashing out because you took offence that someone would dare call you out on your contradictions.

Esel

Take it to PMs, FFS. Nobody else cares.

Thread is a trainwreck at this stage.

magicbastarder

YOU FOOL. they'll start arguing about trains now.

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123537480#Comment_123537480

That is the fine that Revenue can impose, that is not a fine that you might get after a court appearance, it is the fine you can be given that you have to go to court to appeal.

GSBellew

That is not up to a Judge, it is at the discretion of the Revenue officer.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123541030#Comment_123541030

They weren't two different scenarios. They were both instances of minor law-breaking.

They were different though. That's the fatal flaw on which your whole gotcha collapses.

One is an environmental protest that causes mild inconvenience to the vehicle owner, and the other is a measure to avoid responsibility and accountability for dangerous driving.

They're quite different. You can love them or hate them according to your personal agenda, but to say that they're the same scenario is just a bit silly.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542646#Comment_123542646

Ah gotcha! How silly we are🫢 Basically it’s relatively OK to break the law when youre defending the honour of your God of choice

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123542791#Comment_123542791

It's funny how you have to change what I actually said to find something to complain about.