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>www.rte.ie/news/clarity/< Fact checking from RTE! Would you accept their bias on issues?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    There doesn't seem to be any evidence that this was deliberate disinformation, but that is what they are implying.

    The inaccurate post has since been deleted - but it has served to highlight how easily markets can be manipulated in times of uncertainty and heightened anxiety.

    From their own description of what happened it looks more like sloppy misinterpretation/Chinese whispers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭corkie


    From reading and looking into last night from the CNN article, it wasn't deliberate but a misquote by a reporter, I believe. Post this on the 'X' thread last night:-
    "So a misquote I believe by a reporter caused some frustration on the markets in US today!"

    @taratee I just pasted the update info because it masked the creation time/date of the article and was wondering when it was created. Because I tagged them in a social post about the CNN article 17 hours ago. Not saying I sparked them following up on it.
    Something to possibly feature under your new 'Clarity' categorization!? It goes with your theme of social media been bad?

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭corkie


    So a misquote '90 day pause' of a discussion is now a reality, did anyone else 'Take Beat' on hearing the news and double check and get confirmed from multiple sources. So Trump using announcement of tariffs to force countries in trade talks to sort out the deficits?

    FT: US stocks soar as Donald Trump backs down in global trade war

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    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    The Journal ‘fact check’ is self indulgent nonsense.

    Essentially, confirming things you already knew were false.


    Not exactly hard hitting.


    RTÉ and establishment media’s problem is they neglect to report news - usually crime and lack of response to same.


    Then they moan about the real world being shared on social media for free.


    RTÉ, of course, were proud censors of opposition parties and what was going on in the North for decades.


    More recently, the IMF in town anybody?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    Oh dear! Not a great start to Clarity then. It was a bit credulous to just accept the denial of the Trump administration at face value, to be honest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭corkie


    Can't really blame RTE, they just ran with the story based on US Media reports of it (CNN!?).

    A lot can change/happen in politics over the course of two days. Raises questions about the original leak of it, was it purposeful to just testing the waters to see the reaction to it? Checked the article just now to see if there has been any updates giving the latest change. But not yet!

    See the '2. The Art of a Deal?"

    • This was the "strategy all along", according to the US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent who spoke to the media from the White House.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    Can't really blame RTE, they just ran with the story based on US Media reports of it (CNN!?).

    So, there was a rumour that affected the markets. The source of the rumour denied it and the market gains disappeared. Normally, journalists would just report this kind of stuff without passing comment on whether it was fake news (even if the person denying characterises it that way). There's always the chance that something is being considered but not decided yet. That kind of thing happens all the time. Either way, the rumour turned out to be correct and there was never any evidence it was disinformation or market manipulation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    RTÉ is deemed to have a leftwing bias, yet here's Joe Brolly saying it betrays a position that wouldn't be leftwing at all.

    https://x.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/1909959149552619566?t=u6sRU6XGlJl9t-Ol8v737w&s=09

    I think people see what they want to see at times (ftr, while I can't stand Brolly, I'm hugely critical of Israel's excesses in Gaza).

    I'm mint.

    🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Frost Spice That is worth embedding!? Which you can get the correct twitter url, instead of 'X' so it does so, by choosing the embed option on the website, under the "…"!

    One reply: -

    Brian Flanagan
    What is dictating this editorial policy in RTE which is supposed to be independent, neutral and professional. If RTE had been around during the War of Independence, I dread to think how it might have reported on events.
    BTW what has happened to Clarity??

    What indeed has happened to it? Or is the above an example of bias by RTE?
    Or is a case of RTE been politically correct, so not to receive backlash from Israel?

    https://www.declassifieduk.org/battle-for-the-truth-pro-israel-bias-inside-uk-newsrooms-revealed/

    One journalist at Sky News suggested there are a whole set of unwritten journalistic rules that apply exclusively to Israel. “It’s a continuous battle to report the truth,” they said. “We would see the raw footage being sent to us from Gaza – we’re all well aware of the carnage. Yet you can’t describe what your eyes are seeing.

    Hopefully the above embed correctly, can't believe I'm still posting guidance for the platform.

    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    I think they are fairly independent most of the time. If you are annoying people on the left and the right in equal measure, then it's probably a good sign. One recent thing that impressed me was a TV news report about the launch of a new solar farm providing power to Dublin Airport. The launch was organised by the DAA with government ministers etc and they were blessed with a beautiful day. Perfect for a TV report. The reporter upset the "sunny" narrative though by pointing out that if the passenger cap gets dropped, then the CO2 savings from the solar farm will be eliminated four times over from increased aviation emissions. Good journalism means pointing out inconvenient facts like that.



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