Outdoor socket.

obi604

hi

I want to install a simple 3 pin outdoor socket but want to try and keep it relatively simple.
as in I don’t want to really run a fresh cable from the fuse board all the way to the outdoor socket.

Could I utilise an existing indoor socket, drill through to the outside directly opposite the indoor one and run the outdoor socket off this already installed indoor socket? ……….not even sure if it’s an option or if I’m making sense.

I will get an electrician to do this but just checking my options before I do.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058403993/outdoor-socket

Just buy an outdoor socket kit which has a 3 pin plug terminated on the flex. Drill hole and plug it into said socket.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waterproof-Outdoor-Extension-Socket-Indicator-Black/dp/B08C2HYWXB/ref=asc_df_B08C2HYWXB?mcid=486820b73f9b34d2bbd0ae097abbe20d&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=697323563897&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12135223173046762401&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007870&hvtargid=pla-946634712445&psc=1&gad_source=1

denismc

You can get the kit posted above but if you are planning to use this to charge an EV then get an electrician to do something permanent, there could be potential issues if you are running other high load appliances off the same circuit.

obi604

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123298711#Comment_123298711

Oh nice. Would this be ok to charge an electric car at my in laws house. It would only be in use overnight every few weeks. So might get 10 hours usage in a whole month.

I have already used the indoor socket multiple times to charge the car and I have monitored the pins and plug and none of them got hot to the touch after hours of charging.

This potential setup means I would not have to leave a window open and can just plug in directly to the outside wall socket.

Kurooi

Yes what you say exactly, provided neither the outside socket or the one you're connecting to is under a particularly heavy load.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123298733#Comment_123298733

No this isn't a good use case for this at all btw. It is a high draw but it's also continous for hours. These types of adaptions are not meant for EV long high draws.

Get this wired properly please. It's a fire risk

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123298711#Comment_123298711

similar kit but with an RCD

https://amzn.eu/d/fWrp95Z

Padre_Pio

Those granny cables are usually around 10A.

Standard 2.5sq cable would be fine.

Just make sure whatever ring or radial you're tapping off has an appropriate MCB .

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123299102#Comment_123299102

I'd add a fused spur to the side of the inside socket and then connect the outside socket to that. Allows the outside socket to be turned off when it's not in use as well as having it's own fuse.

obi604

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123299102#Comment_123299102

when you say this, do you mean a dedicated 2.5sq cable directly from the fuse board to the outdoor socket? or just from the already existing internal 3 pin socket to the outdoor socket?

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123299728#Comment_123299728

Just the existing socket.

Current rating for 2.5sq is min 20A, so you see them on a 16A MCB for radial and 32 for ring.

*I am not an electrician

Padre_Pio

I tapped off our hob/oven for the outside socket. The radial is on 4sq cable, with the spur on 2.5sq.

Opened up the isolator switch and drilled through the wall from the back of the box. Attacked the cable to the switched side. Means I can turn off the outside socket from the oven isolator.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123299539#Comment_123299539

heffo500

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123299986#Comment_123299986

You shouldn't have done that, an oven supply is protected by a 32 amp MCB and 2.5mm T&E is rated at 20amps.

heffo500

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123299539#Comment_123299539

It doesn't need the fused spur either wire it straight from the socket and if you want to isolate internally I'd get 20amp double pole switch fitted.

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123300002#Comment_123300002

Good point, thank you.

obi604

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123298845#Comment_123298845

When you say wired properly, what do you mean?

obi604

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123300996#Comment_123300996

ok, but does this mean, a totally fresh run back to the fuse board from the outdoor socket>?