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Locked car key in boot

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    Be careful if you're going to smash a window and claim. You've already rang the insurance company and tipped them off what's happened. All phonecalls are recorded and logged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭06608124


    Thanks a mil. Yea won't go that route. Not worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭mk7r


    The interior handles and in car unlock button are disabled when deadlocked, that's literally the point of deadlocking as it's too easy to access them to gain entry, not all vws come with deadlocking though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭sham58107


    Lots off "advice" here ,get a main dealer and get new key ? how long you want to be with out car ??

    Smash window and replace ? smash windscreen !! buy something online again how long ?

    Had same problem last year, battery fault and no skeleton key , locksmith quoted €450 , rang insurance have full comp and breakdown assist, recovery guy arrived within the hour and opened car in less than 10 mins , no damage, no charge and does not affect claims .

    Since then got skeleton key ,took 7 days to get code from main dealers as they had to go to manufactors and apparently only one guy in main dealers can access codes.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,485 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just to confirm for myself so i don't find myself in the same position - if you open the boot after using the boot unlock button on the fob, does the boot lock automatically again when closed?

    i've a 2012 octavia. i don't use the boot unlock button, i just habitually unlock the car using the general unlock button. the car locks itself again automatically if you don't open a door, but i'm not sure if the boot opening and closing would count as a door opening in that scenario.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭MrFrisp


    I think that only applies if the key is in the ignition. In this case the key was/is in the boot, so it wouldn't have been detected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    In my case the car was locked & I unlocked the boot only using the boot button on the key. I put the keys down in the boot & then inadvertently closed the boot. Stupid mistake but easily done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭06608124


    Just to update...got a locksmith for 120e. Was happy with that as was quoted 250e by another at the weekend.

    Insurance wouldn't cover as their breakdown line only covers the AA coming out and they don't have locksmith licences.

    Not too bad a result overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭passatman86


    Not too bad a result



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    So now you get yourself a copy of the physical key cut and turn off auto locking (if you can).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    Well done…and no windows broken 👍🙂Thanks for the update.

    Out of interest, which insurance company are you with? Aviva (breakdown assist) covers keys locked in car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    you can lock a VW with the boot open (or any door other than the drivers door) , locking of the car will then happen once the boot (or last open door) closes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭06608124


    No windows broken and I don't have windscreen cover anyway 😆 it was allianz. They would only cover keys if they were physically stolen and reports for gardai would be required etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    You got a great outcome in the end, and glad it worked out well & back on the road 👍



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I rented a car in France (cannot remember the make or model) which I would lock as I closed the drivers door. However, if the passenger door was still open, it would unlock the car. It took a while till I realised that little trick so I always tried the doors after they were all closed.

    Great result for the OP. I assume lesson learnt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Dirty Nails


    Pretty much true. Opening with the boot unlock button triggers a solenoid in the back panel (totally independent of the button in the boot lid). It's a one time event,the boot or the car was never really unlocked. Earlier VW group stuff maybe up to 2018 works opposite to every other maker. One press of the lock button deadlocked, 2 presses not deadlocked. To stop the self locking mode open & close drivers door. Maybe passenger door either I'm not sure. Certainly lots of Jap cars it is drivers door only. I think deadlocking is gone from most post 2018 vw group cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭Genghis


    @06608124

    Delighted you got sorted. Something similar happened me in a VW Jetta once before, managed to hook door handle to get in.

    Am curious: How did the locksmith open it, did they pick the lock somehow, or use something to wedge the door open / hook the handle?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭06608124


    They picked it. Would guess they weren't trying it any longer than 5 mins

    Locksmith said they have about 60 different types of pick depending on car type and you need a licence to have these



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,299 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Total bullshit. No licence needed to have lockpicks. You do need a PSA licence to trade as a locksmith.

    That doesn't mean you can wander the streets with a pocket full of lockpicks but provided you have a legitimate use there are no restrictions on owning them. Lockpicking is a perfectly legal hobby, provided you own the locks you are picking https://www.tog.ie/calendar/lockpicking-2/

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭Raichų


    yeah in my experience of cars with a boot unlock on the key that’s how it’s worked. Boot only will open and will be locked once you close it again. Other doors don’t open so if you dropped key/placed it down/it fell from your pocket etc and you shut the boot on it you’re pretty much fecked without a spare.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭06608124


    Well I could have picked him up wrong. He could well have said you need the licence to trade



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