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Jan 2025 - Snow & Freezing Conditions - Discussion PART II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Sometimes its that one post that shows you as out of your depth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    The joys of the gulf stream keeping western Europe mild. For example, the area south of Dallas (highest risk) is roughly on the same latitude as Madeira.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭davidsr20


    dam it’s cold. Few kms from Athenry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,492 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Real hard frost in Galway City this morning, went for a walk at Ballyloughane, seaweed frozen, pools of seawater have a layer of ice on top, runoff from the fields has frozen over.

    Must have been quite the cold one last night. Sun is attacking the thick frost layer on the footpaths and roads but having little success so far. I'd imagine by sunset it'll have melted most of the unshaded stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,163 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Got down to -2.4c in Cobh last night according to my station. Thats the first time we've gotten below freezing really. I don't count the -0.1c or -0.3c so far!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,851 ✭✭✭Calibos


    North Africa, the Levant and Greece etc seem to get more snow more often than us. ie. Geography and Atmospherics can often trump Latitude. Ireland is more often than not the most Northerly Snow free country on the planet nearly every Winter due to sticking out west into the Gulfstream and usually being under a kink in the Jetstream. On the flipside is it that strange that now and again a snow bearing weather system can make it down through the North American continental interior through the great plains all the way to Texas when a Siberian beast from the North East can often make it down to give Greece, Turkey and Syria a dump of snow?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    As I type, it's -4 on the phone so might be -5 where I am, which is higher. The trees are white and lovely with frost accumulated from the overnight freezing fog. Small birds are desperately searching for food. I'll go put some out.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    It will be well into Saturday, if not Sunday, before temps recover across Ireland. The end of the cold spell will be a slow affair with scattered outbreaks of rain, sleet & snow, the latter mostly affecting high ground, pushing NE. Snow/Ice warning may be extended until Sat morn.

    On a separate note, I think some posters (a few of them regulars) owe @Kermit.de.frog an apology for their lambasting of this thread being opened. Over 600k thread views, some locations experiencing records snowfalls, one of the coldest January periods in 15 years etc. The thread title '1st January 2025 - 8th January Snow Potential, Freezing Conditions' was exactly that and more.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭budweiser6


    All hail King Kermit 😀 He was on the ball with this thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    Limerick Junction's -8.0c was beaten by Kilcolgy, Longford:

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    Is there lying snow in that part of Longford?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭RINO87


    I despise these Galway Cork Beo, Dublin Live etc sites and thir misleading click bait nonsense, but this is taking the piss....

    That -20 forecast "near" Ireland is the Scottish Highlands by the way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Elmer Booker has been posting on this forum as far back as I remember (00’s), and always seems to know his stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭OldRio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,257 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    nah, I am aware that the busiest airport in N America, Atlanta is often shut down by winter storms, Atlanta is roughly the same latitude as Damascus. I remember a -17c in Dallas a couple of years too. DC the same as Athens Rome etc etc



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    It's to start to warm up significantly from tomorrow anyway so it looks as if the cold snap is coming to and end. Some of these website are an absolute joke. It's criminal what they get away with.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Slightly milder than yesterday here in Meath, currently 0C, it could get up to 1 or 2C within the next hour or 2 before falling back again so not really an ice day here. Yesterday did not get above -2C here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭ScorchedEarth


    Snowing in West Limerick...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    A hard frost lingered all day in North Ros yesterday while today a lot has melted but still feeling bitterly cold. A big bonus of this spell has been the sunshine, December was extremely dull so the sun is more than welcome to stick around



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭davidsr20


    was there a mention of a second cold snap late January last week?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The clock is now ticking and the gutters are dripping on this cold spell. High cloud is beginning to roll into Kerry and Cork as tomorrow's frontal system edges closer. The cloud can be seen to the southwest at my location in Clare.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    No worries!

    It comes with the territory, here.

    The past 3,4 days have been in the -10 to -19c range with windchills in the -20, -29c range. I put a coat and boots on my poodle when I go for her walk. The cold just freezes your face instantly.


    I live on a lake in suburban Montreal (Chambly), and the basin was frozen and then thawed partially, the substantial snow cover gone from 3 days of rain and low temps btwn Xmas and New Years. Then the cold and the snow reappeared and the lake froze within a day and a half, people were walking on it again.



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    To be fair in other countries their climate just harsher.

    People talk about Ireland and why we don't cope with it. Is it worth putting billions into infrastructure for maybe a slightly cold week once a year. Frost all melted and the thaw has began in Maynooth.

    I know others are having in tougher in rural Munster locations but as they have said they can't remember another event like this in memory.

    I wouldn't be comparing us to Arctic countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭ScorchedEarth


    The heavy band of precipitation coming in over munster tonight and tomorrow morning...will it be snow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Exactly. People just need to be more cautious during these events.


    In my part of Canada, the snow cover cam typically last from early December to late March. Everything has to be thought out and built accordingly, otherwise, we couldn’t run an economy. On the other hand, we have had some extreme events, even snowfalls that have paralyzed our cities. The biggest ones are at the tail end of winter, in March for some reason, like a proverbial kick in the arse. But snow is pretty cool.

    The worst was the 1998 ice storm. I hope not to live through that again!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Wouldn't be surprised, you couldn't trust that Longford crowd!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    A thaw of the frost in Meath and the green is coming back except in the shade. The cold spell is beginning to ease ever so slightly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


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    Really enjoyed this cold spell. However it’ll be nice to be able to get around easier and hopefully outdoor trainings resume next week!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I'm in rural munster and the Beast from the East was worse - no comparison.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,593 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Ireland & Britain at 11am today. This NASA image gives us our first proper look at the impact of this cold spell on the islands. The extent of snow cover on the southern half of Ireland is striking. Meanwhile, the result of yesterday's slider low in southern England is visible.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,168 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The reason for weather trailing the time of year slightly, is most likely the hysteresis effect.

    hysteresis |ˌhɪstəˈriːsɪs|
    noun [ mass noun ] Physics
    the phenomenon in which the value of a physical property lags behind changes in the effect causing it, as for instance when magnetic induction lags behind the magnetizing force.



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