AI proof professions

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122982170#Comment_122982170

Pharmacy robots have existed for decades, any pharmacy in Ireland that does nursing home dispensing on any scale already has them and probably has for over ten years.

A humanoid robot won't prevent the legal liability resting with the human pharmacist. They have reduced (but far from eliminated) the lower paid, semi skilled pharmacy assistant jobs and had zero impact on actual pharmacist jobs.

Machine Learning (what we have is not actually "AI") is going to create huge amounts of jobs looking out for the screwups it causes.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123028962#Comment_123028962

It is not machine learning that is the point. It works very differently but there are people selling machine learning as AI.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029128#Comment_123029128

LLMs are a type of machine learning. Neither are actual Artificial Intelligence, but AI has been a catchphrase to target ever since the the term was invented.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029143#Comment_123029143

LLMs are not the only AI about now and all AI could be called machine learning in normal language but not in a technical terms

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029155#Comment_123029155

And absolutely none of them are actually "artificial intelligence", which is my point that you're being weirdly pedantic about for some reason.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029166#Comment_123029166

No they are artificial intelligence just not what you think and it is you being pedantic as a result

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029278#Comment_123029278

Nothing on the market is actually artificial intelligence. Nothing.

There's a major difference between being pedantic - which is what you are doing here, for some baffling reason - and being right. You aren't the latter.

thereiver

ai is just a program that collects a vast amount of data text and art and makes content based on data generated by humans

Creativity in ai This aspect uses neural networks, rule-based systems, statistical methods and other AI techniques to generate new images, text, music

ai is already replacing some artists and animators in video gaming and hollywood they are hiring artists now and saying you must be able to work with ai programs .ai could replace most of the art in the background of comicbooks eg the artist would draw spiderman fighting an enemy in front of ai drawn buildings .

instead of 10 artists there,ll be 3 artists to add to certain art work and correct any mistakes .

Theres less demand for certain types of writers on the internet since ai can do the same kind of work.

You cant go to a computer and type make me a house make me a 3 bed apartment in this location build a car build a boat build a wall

if you think ai will replace builders bricklayers painters roofers carpenters plumbers you are dreaming.

i don,t think many people will buy the evening herald newspaper if its all written by ai bots .

journalists talk to real people and check that facts are correct and write in their own style and know what is relevant to todays readers

i dont think farmers poets and comedians and singers will be replaced by ai .People want to go to live events and listen to music and watch standup comedians on stage .

taylor swift can sell out arena,s in any country she go,s to she,s not going to be replaced by ai.

do you think the housing crisis will be solved in 2 years by using ai llm,s i doubt it.

Bacchus

There are already automated factory floors for making cars. AI will only advance that space more.

As for housing, it's not a stretch to see AI having an impact on architecture, surveyance, planning. Not replacing those jobs, but offloading certain tasks so the human can get more done (which translates to fewer jobs to go around). Similarly in trades, with AI and just a camera on your phone (or perhaps some new robotic technology will come along) you'll be able to assess a lot of problems quite easily, and probably get a good set of instructions to fix it. Again, not necessarily replacing a trade but offloading certain tasks.

I prefer looking at AI as a new tool that will help humans do the jobs we already do more efficiently. That does mean fewer net jobs to go around but I don't think there will be a collapse of the jobs market. New jobs will be generated too, albeit AI will probably also play role in those.

The flipside of this is, like how Ford first made the car affordable to everyone through manufacturing scale, AI will make it cheaper to make things or build services. It's important that the impact of that is felt though in society. It will be an interesting balance to see how the world reacts to a changing job market and the potential for AI to reduce the cost of living for everyone. The big problem as I see it is that it will only be companies (and their high level executives) that will see the benefit (deliver the same product at the same, or higher, price with just a fraction of the employees to pay).

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029475#Comment_123029475

What certain computer programs do is called Artificial Intelligence (AI) what you are saying is it is not ACTUAL artificial intelligence. You are wrong as intelligence definitions are covered by what the programs do.

You are being pedantic about your view/definition of what intelligence and stating your view beats all other definitions. It doesn't and AI is a name the same way Hoverboard is.

I don't know how much you have looked at the issue but I have completed a lot of training on the subject and it is improving at a fast rate and can fool humans easily at the moment and is only getting better

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030077#Comment_123030077

I don't need you to rattle off stuff you got told on a Linkedin Learning course, thanks

There isn't (currently, commercially available at least; lest something pop up) actual artificial intelligence and you are a massive, massive pedant; trying to show off and failing quite badly.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123029977#Comment_123029977

It is obvious that AI can't do anything physical without without hardware to control. That does not mean hardware won't be developed later that can do these things. There are 3D house printers in development which could have impact on the building industry going forward.

You are also not correct in saying AI only collects vast amount of data created by humans to come up with a solution. It uses data generated by other AI too and comes to conclusions not made by humans. That is why it is different from Machine Learning and a game changer.

It is rewriting the understanding of what intelligence is. Psychologist theories about intelligence have been proven wrong as a result of this development

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030087#Comment_123030087

So you agree I am correct by calling me a pedant! That is the point I have made about you but the difference is you can't define what is actual artificial intelligence is because nobody is in agreement.

I working on AI and it is much more than people think. It is not just course learning for me but I take it you haven't even done that much

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030134#Comment_123030134

No, as I said you're pedantic, and also wrong. The two are never mutually exclusive.

I hope people aren't paying you for this "work" in completely misunderstanding everything.

I'm not going to bother replying to a pedantic spoofer any further, you've wasted enough time as it is.

crusd

Its like hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. They designed a computer to provide the answer but didnt know the right question.

As it is with todays "AI". If you dont ask it the right question it will give you shite out. There will be loads of jobs making sure what AI is producing is actually relevant and correct.

So in summary, 42.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030139#Comment_123030139

So you can't use existing definitions of words. Pedantic means the person is right and insists on minor detail. You can't say somebody is pedantic and wrong they are mutually exclusive . You can't say what is or is not artificial intelligence!

Of course you won't reply because you were being pedantic about something you don't understand and added personal insults which I never did to you.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030175#Comment_123030175

Not to be pedantic but the definition of pedantic is giving too much attention to small details or rules. It does not imply they are correct in the small details or application of rules.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030194#Comment_123030194

Such as grammar and definitions and certainly implies being correct by following all the rules. There are a lot less definitions for that then intelligence

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030215#Comment_123030215

Has AI demonstrated the ability to acquire knowledge?

the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030225#Comment_123030225

Yes

SuperBowserWorld

Putting/removing/replacing/putting/... barriers along the grand canal.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030259#Comment_123030259

Nah it can apply knowledge and consolidate knowledge and summarise knowledge but has it acquired new knowledge

French Toast

Teachers/Lecturers. AI can enhance learning but I don’t reckon it’ll ever completely replace the human presence in the classroom.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030301#Comment_123030301

You asked whether it could acquire knowledge and the answer is yes. You want to add "new" knowledge then It can acquire new knowledge to it when you add a new source. The misconception is all it is doing is consolidating information given and that is not the case. Do humans create new knowledge? I don't think you can say yes or we would have Einsteins everywhere. Most people are taught existing knowledge not "new" knowledge

This is why it is a game changer. Psychological definition of intelligence are changing as a result of the developments. The belief the animal kingdom intelligence is somehow unique and special is in question.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030310#Comment_123030310

Look it the same way typing pools went. Nobody thinks it will replace all people but it will not need as many people. Lecture assistants and under grads working away will not be needed on the same scale. I can see a lot of subjects would be better learned without a lecturer in college. When I studied civil engineering some of the lecturers were way out of date on tech.

Those that can't teach is not a new saying

thereiver

Rubbish in Rubbish out

aI is trained on millions of websites which contain trolls posting

conspiracy theory s and misinformation and bad jokes Ai is not human it can't tell the difference between real facts versus propaganda or ridiculous theory's or fantasy .

So if we rely too much on ai it will have negative effects

there's a catch 22 if ai automates more production of goods it will cause jobs loss,s reducing the ability of consumers to buy new cars or other luxury goods

One theory if you work in an office you are at more risk of losing your job than someone who works in a factory or does manual labour dentists or doctors will not lose jobs to ai

Esel

^

Ask ChatGPT to parse your post. Might be interesting.

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123030512#Comment_123030512

Why would AI be given an open feed from random websites with conspiracy theories? If you create an AI to process insurance claims you aren't going to train it on K-pop. What AI is fed depends on what it is going to be used for unlike people who are much more likely to take on conspiracy theories.

The companies will operate in a way they make more money and do not care about the impact on overall employment. Admin jobs are the most likely jobs to be reduced not just jobs in offices. The thing is a lot of these position have been outsourced already or about to be. The tax situation on this will mean it be better to have the AI located here so at least we get the tax paid here.

Doctors are certainly not immune from from AI but it won't remove their roles just hopefully increase the quality of care. There really isn't a need for replacing factory workers at the moment as they are cheaper than using machines. In the USA you see people manning car park booths that we don't do because it is cheaper to use an automated machine here.

thereiver

I think ai is being trained on million of websites and forums and YouTube theres plenty of videos that have people talking rubbish and spreading conspiracy theory s that have no basis in reality .when I say ai I mean llms that need a large amount of data including images txt and video .

I know theres ai programs that are just used for instance to screen job applications.theres ai programs used to make missile defence systems more accurate.

We could make ai robots in the future to build walls but at the moment it's cheaper to use bricklayers

https://autogpt.net/the-funniest-and-most-bizarre-ai-fails/

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123033113#Comment_123033113

Just because you think it does something doesn't mean it is true. Even from your link not one is a result of what you claim they are doing. There are lot of images and text sources without ever needing to go to unregulated internet content as a source of data. Your link is pretty much about consumer products that people thought they could deliver knowing they didn't have it at the time. Look at the history of technology and you will see that they also failed without ever using AI and just hit the market at the wrong time, failed to deliver expectations, just didn't work etc…

An interesting issue that came through from AI was in a recruitment AI. When the AI analyzed previous recruitment it acted the same as the humans. The problem was the human process was bias but had not been noticed but the AI showed it up.

AI and hardware is changing very rapidly and don't even require AI for functions just a design to follow which may be human or AI generated. CNC machines being the most obvious one ready to use now. Factory built housing that is assembled on site has existed a long time and all it takes is increased labour costs for companies to develop better machines or just use what already exists.

AI won't replace all roles but it certainly will require less people to have the same output

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VR4IcDhX0