How to value a campervan for sale

Buddy Bubs

Im gar from an expert on these and my father is putting his campervan up for sale.

It's a black 2020 Opel Movano that himself and a friend converted during Covid. So it's a big enough van. Don't know the mileage but low enough to still be fresh mechanically as a van.

What drives the price of campervans? What is in demand that makes one worth more than another? I know like for like a newer van will be worth more than an older one but the price variations online are wild.

It has engineer sign off as a camper, has the vrt paid and motor tax is campervan so it's legit camper now

Double bed, sink, presses, cooker, microwave, small table for eating at with 2 seats. Side tinted privacy windows. 2 captains chairs in front with curtain separating to the rear. No toilet or shower (does this keep value down?)

He doesn't even know what he spent on it and how much it owes him so just looking for ballpark ideas what it might be worth?

Also, where best to sell it and is there a good season to put them up for sale or does it even matter?

beertons

Any pics?

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122712848#Comment_122712848

I don't think I have any could get some tomorrow though. I'll check through the phone never know I might have 1 or 2

Edit: I actually don't have any myself

You can start by looking at the base van value which can be found on DoneDeal. Then Depending on the quality of the work done on the conversion you can add another €5-15k. Finally, assuming it was reregistered as a camper - you can add around 20% more to the figure.

That should get you a rough figure to be getting started on. Next go back to donedeal and look for what that figure gets you in a registered camper to see if your about right.

Prices have pulled back a fair bit over this year, maybe as much as 30% on what they were fetching a year or so ago.

Now is the worst time to sell - wait till march to get the best price.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122713976#Comment_122713976

Thanks @Shoog

So, price of a 2020 Movano to buy today plus value of work done plus 20% as it is a registered campervan.

Am I right in thinking the base vehicle itself would depreciate over time in line with any other vehicle and the value of the conversion would more or less stay constant regardless of age? Within reason of course.

There is no rush to sell. I talked to my brother there's an outside chance he might go in with me on a 3 way share with the dad we could pay him 2/3 of the agreed value and just keep it in the family. I can store it in work no problem. But neither of us have really thought about whether we will suddenly start using it because we own it because it was always available to us anyway and we have both used it exactly once each.

Father not using it very much and wants to put money towards a new car for himself. Using it as a daily driver which is nuts to be honest, not that he goes far maybe 100kms a week.

If us buying a share in it doesn't work out he would be happy enough to wait until spring to sell.

dory

As Shoog says, definitely better to sell in the spring. It's impossible to even give a ballpark without photos. Some home made builds sell well, the ones that look professionally done. I've seen others €10k less for a similar van as it has a real home-made look about it.

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I think it will depreciate at a typical vehicle rate, maybe a bit less. Campers always hold their value better than vans because of the work done and the hassle and cost of reregistering so your assessment would be about right.

It's a seriously good idea to share it. Try it out as an option for a while and see if the lifestyle fits your family. In the summer we use ours nearly every week on short trips and always like to get a few week long trips in through the year. We went to a family gathering in the UK this year which was a long week away and it was great to have the flexibility and the cost saving over hotels.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714222#Comment_122714222

It would be above the average build quality I would imagine, he wasn't really sticking to a budget just 2 good tradesmen with no labour cost so the stuff that went in to it would be decent. I might drop up to him in the afternoon and get some pictures so we get a ballpark idea of value.

Buddy Bubs

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Yeah we'll have a chat and see....it's more the sentiment of keeping a van he built himself. Id probably be happy to throw 10k for my share if my brother is too.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714290#Comment_122714290

2020 is very fresh so you might be surprised at how much its actually worth.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714317#Comment_122714317

Yeah hopefully it's worth a good few quid, if we are sharing it we will work out a fair value for all concerned.

At a guess though I'd say we will sell it. I'll try get a few photos later

Hard to gauge prices because they're all somewhat customised, suppose it's just about finding someone it suits perfectly that has the budget to buy

Calahonda52

What did the engineers report cover?

Has it a habitation cert?

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714393#Comment_122714393

I dont actually know what it covered, dont know huge amount about the van myself.

Hooked

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714393#Comment_122714393

SQI (the engineer) fills in this:

https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/documents/vrt/vrt-conv.pdf

No habitation, leccy or gas certs required for Motor Caravan conversions. Just declaration to revenue and pay VRT where applicable

Hooked

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058374050/how-to-value-a-campervan-for-sale

2020 Movano… could be worth anything from 25-50 grand depending on the mileage, condition, fit out, electrical system, batteries, quality of work, materials, etc… will deffo fetch more next spring!

This 2011 is asking 28,500

https://www.donedeal.ie/campers-for-sale/campervan/37773145

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718599#Comment_122718599

The SQI should be asking for those certs to cover his liabilities, but if he doesn't there is no legal requirement for them. The only thing you need for revenue to classify it a camper is the SQI cert. There used to be some right dicks in the local councils who would run you around - but they are now totally out of the picture and it's now all done remotely through one central office in Dublin port.

Habitation cert is a thing some people buying might be looking for but there is absolutely no requirement for one and I would say it will have almost no impact on saleability. It's up to the buy to establish the condition of the van not the seller.

Buddy Bubs

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Thanks - it would be the equal of that anyway just going by photos