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How to value a campervan for sale

Buddy Bubs

Im gar from an expert on these and my father is putting his campervan up for sale.

It's a black 2020 Opel Movano that himself and a friend converted during Covid. So it's a big enough van. Don't know the mileage but low enough to still be fresh mechanically as a van.

What drives the price of campervans? What is in demand that makes one worth more than another? I know like for like a newer van will be worth more than an older one but the price variations online are wild.

It has engineer sign off as a camper, has the vrt paid and motor tax is campervan so it's legit camper now

Double bed, sink, presses, cooker, microwave, small table for eating at with 2 seats. Side tinted privacy windows. 2 captains chairs in front with curtain separating to the rear. No toilet or shower (does this keep value down?)

He doesn't even know what he spent on it and how much it owes him so just looking for ballpark ideas what it might be worth?

Also, where best to sell it and is there a good season to put them up for sale or does it even matter?

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beertons

Any pics?

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122712848#Comment_122712848

I don't think I have any could get some tomorrow though. I'll check through the phone never know I might have 1 or 2

Edit: I actually don't have any myself

[Deleted User]

You can start by looking at the base van value which can be found on DoneDeal. Then Depending on the quality of the work done on the conversion you can add another €5-15k. Finally, assuming it was reregistered as a camper - you can add around 20% more to the figure.

That should get you a rough figure to be getting started on. Next go back to donedeal and look for what that figure gets you in a registered camper to see if your about right.

Prices have pulled back a fair bit over this year, maybe as much as 30% on what they were fetching a year or so ago.

Now is the worst time to sell - wait till march to get the best price.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122713976#Comment_122713976

Thanks @Shoog

So, price of a 2020 Movano to buy today plus value of work done plus 20% as it is a registered campervan.

Am I right in thinking the base vehicle itself would depreciate over time in line with any other vehicle and the value of the conversion would more or less stay constant regardless of age? Within reason of course.

There is no rush to sell. I talked to my brother there's an outside chance he might go in with me on a 3 way share with the dad we could pay him 2/3 of the agreed value and just keep it in the family. I can store it in work no problem. But neither of us have really thought about whether we will suddenly start using it because we own it because it was always available to us anyway and we have both used it exactly once each.

Father not using it very much and wants to put money towards a new car for himself. Using it as a daily driver which is nuts to be honest, not that he goes far maybe 100kms a week.

If us buying a share in it doesn't work out he would be happy enough to wait until spring to sell.

dory

As Shoog says, definitely better to sell in the spring. It's impossible to even give a ballpark without photos. Some home made builds sell well, the ones that look professionally done. I've seen others €10k less for a similar van as it has a real home-made look about it.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714154#Comment_122714154

I think it will depreciate at a typical vehicle rate, maybe a bit less. Campers always hold their value better than vans because of the work done and the hassle and cost of reregistering so your assessment would be about right.

It's a seriously good idea to share it. Try it out as an option for a while and see if the lifestyle fits your family. In the summer we use ours nearly every week on short trips and always like to get a few week long trips in through the year. We went to a family gathering in the UK this year which was a long week away and it was great to have the flexibility and the cost saving over hotels.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714222#Comment_122714222

It would be above the average build quality I would imagine, he wasn't really sticking to a budget just 2 good tradesmen with no labour cost so the stuff that went in to it would be decent. I might drop up to him in the afternoon and get some pictures so we get a ballpark idea of value.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714235#Comment_122714235

Yeah we'll have a chat and see....it's more the sentiment of keeping a van he built himself. Id probably be happy to throw 10k for my share if my brother is too.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714290#Comment_122714290

2020 is very fresh so you might be surprised at how much its actually worth.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714317#Comment_122714317

Yeah hopefully it's worth a good few quid, if we are sharing it we will work out a fair value for all concerned.

At a guess though I'd say we will sell it. I'll try get a few photos later

Hard to gauge prices because they're all somewhat customised, suppose it's just about finding someone it suits perfectly that has the budget to buy

Calahonda52

What did the engineers report cover?

Has it a habitation cert?

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714393#Comment_122714393

I dont actually know what it covered, dont know huge amount about the van myself.

Hooked

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714393#Comment_122714393

SQI (the engineer) fills in this:

https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/documents/vrt/vrt-conv.pdf

No habitation, leccy or gas certs required for Motor Caravan conversions. Just declaration to revenue and pay VRT where applicable

Hooked

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058374050/how-to-value-a-campervan-for-sale

2020 Movano… could be worth anything from 25-50 grand depending on the mileage, condition, fit out, electrical system, batteries, quality of work, materials, etc… will deffo fetch more next spring!

This 2011 is asking 28,500

https://www.donedeal.ie/campers-for-sale/campervan/37773145

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718599#Comment_122718599

The SQI should be asking for those certs to cover his liabilities, but if he doesn't there is no legal requirement for them. The only thing you need for revenue to classify it a camper is the SQI cert. There used to be some right dicks in the local councils who would run you around - but they are now totally out of the picture and it's now all done remotely through one central office in Dublin port.

Habitation cert is a thing some people buying might be looking for but there is absolutely no requirement for one and I would say it will have almost no impact on saleability. It's up to the buy to establish the condition of the van not the seller.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718635#Comment_122718635

Thanks - it would be the equal of that anyway just going by photos

Buddy Bubs

Ok, 4 months later this van is going up for sale. I'm heading up to my parents later to take pics and get some info on spec and fit out etc as I don't know anything about it myself, should have an ad up later today.

Are there any specialist sites I should advertise this on or just donedeal?

Seems to be the match of most things on donedeal apart from not having a toilet or shower? Is this a big turn off for the number for potential buyers?

XsApollo

prices for campers vary massively.
and what people want varies massively too.

I see one other Movano on done deal for 67k.
222 with 6k kms and a proper conversion.

It totally depends on the quality of the conversion, the van itself, and what you are willing to take for it really.

for example.

Put 2020 Ducato in to the search bar on done deal and the first 3 that popped up range in price from 26k to 41k to 67k.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123247039#Comment_123247039

Yeah it's going to be tricky to value, maybe just put it up high for a while to gauge interest then drop it back.

Defo not thinking 67, more likely in the 30s somewhere but I'm really not sure

XsApollo

sure get some photos and stuff up here

Buddy Bubs

This is the van I asked about a while ago, finally got a few pictures today.

Tent included in sale, fridge , microwave, double bed, portable toilet, leisure battery, plenty of storage, sink, 2 hob gas cooker, 2020 reg, 46000kms, Opel Movano, double window in back driver and passenger side.

Any ideas on what something like this might fetch?

CelticRambler

Can't give you a figure, but if I was in the market, I would want to see pics of the van without the tent. Showing it with the tent in all exterior photos would suggest to me that the conversion is a really bare-bones job and the van is not really self-contained.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123317772#Comment_123317772

Taken on board...haven't a clue about these things myself just have been given the job of trying to sell it!

No exterior modifications to van at all except the ventilation in the roof, looks just like a standard movano/renault master/Nissan nv400 from the outside

XsApollo

I’m not sure what it’s worth, but it’s worth whatever someone will pay for it.
it’s not going to be 40’s anyway or 30’s even, I could be wrong tho.

If people are spending that type of money they want something that doesn’t really look homemade if you know what I mean.
Also depends on the workmanship too, which can’t be seen in the photos.
it doesn’t have any seats in the back so no seat belts, just the 2 seatbelts in the front.
I mean it has the bench seats there but they aren’t seats, you’re not going sit there and relax.

There’s 2021 and 2022 Movano’s on done deal for 15-20k

You can stick it up on DoneDeal, for a price they would be happy to sell it for and see what responses you get and go from there.

As other poster said take better photos without the tent.

carfinder

I cant understand why anyone would do a conversion, to sell on, and use a manual transmission van. Way, way easier to sell an automatic