11 Generator stuck in Dublin port for over a year because they are to heavy for M50

POBox19

The first one moves tonight. Anyone know the route?

Victor

https://twitter.com/sdublincoco/status/1840738572845928464

I don't know if they are the same https://www.sdcc.ie/en/news/notice-of-transportation-of-exceptional-abnormal-loads.html

deezell

Another 6 vast Diesel engines delivered to Ballycoolen, another new DC planned there.

https://vertikal.net/en/news/story/46781/collett-transports-158t-engines-through-dublin

Meantime on Primtime last night they try to justify levying domestic consumers disproportionately for new ESBN infrastructure in a futile attempt to pretend that renewables can power these voracious power and money pits. How extraordinary that the data software is not optimised, I would have thought that the algorithms were perfected in the 40 odd years since I studied efficient search coding C++ programming modules. Simpler times. They only way to make this happen today is hard cash penalties on inefficient operations.

KrisW1001

Urban customers subsidise Rural customers, Industrial customers subsidise both.

Funny you talk about Datacentre losses, because there’s a parallel with the electricity market: the high users are very resource-efficient, low users are much more inefficient, and account for most of the losses and waste in the system.

Datacentre computing is billed by the second. I suspect you no longer work in this industry, but for the vast majority of software deployed “in the cloud”, the power overhead of just getting to the point where your program can be executed dwarfs any difference in runtime or language performance. It’s only applications at the scale of Google Search, large-dataset machine learning and such where implementation details are significant enough that changing them would actually save energy, and guess what? At this level, energy waste does get optimised away. There’s lots of hand-optimised machine-level code in AI inference systems - any tiny inefficiency gets multiplied by a hundred thousands nodes and months of computation.

DC energy waste isn’t fixable with blanket solutions, because a lot of the stuff running on public DCs is super-low volume, and not worth optimising, even if the pricing models exposed the real usage to the customer (they don’t - tiered pricing at the bottom is lucrative for cloud hosting providers who know damn well that their lowest price-tier customers never use anything like what they pay for). How do you propose to fix hundreds of thousands of low-volume server-side JS applications which might be grossly inefficient in relative terms, but their use is so low that in absolute terms, the waste for each is almost immeasurably small.

deezell

You're correct, despite extensive study in different programming modes, including java, javascript, matlab, html, a bit if python even, my career moved into a different place, where device, network and control systems configuration would keep you on your toes. Long time ago too, so I was surprised by @Beta Ray Bill's assertions, and the subsequent posts. I'm not qualified to enter the debate, but there's no smoke without fire, so I suspect there's some grain of truth in it. Should there be a debate on this? Maybe AI can answer the question, (or maybe AI is now part of the DC problem). It's all fossil fuelled anyway.