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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,521 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    In most cases, people will be co-habitating with the person they are married to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    No what it's doing is preventing discrimination against cohabiting couples who aren't married. I'm not married. If my partner's parent was to pass away, without that section b I would have no right to bereavement leave as they wouldn't be my "in law". It's making it more fair, not less.

    I think you're the one who is not reading it correctly to be honest. In what world would they give you leave for your cohabiting partners grandfather but not your grandfather in law. The section b was included to ensure that people who are not married are afforded the same leave as what had been previously in place. So all the "in-laws" listed as immediate relatives of an officer because in law they now are. They're not if you're just cohabiting.

    It's poorly worded as it possibly could be used to interpret it as a cohabiting partner's grandfather or grandmother but instead of pulling out pieces, it should be read as a whole & interpreted as same. Could someone take a case because of the poor wording, sure they could but the most it would do is force them to update the wording to better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭blackcard


    But if your girlfriend is cohabiting with you, you can get leave for their grandparent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    You're deciding what it should say, not what it actually says. Again:

    For the purposes of bereavement leave "immediate relative" means (a) …, …, grandfather, …, …; (b) a similar immediate relative of a cohabiting partner

    (a) immediate relative includes grandfather

    (b) the list includes all similar immediate relatives of a cohabiting partner

    It very clearly states that immediate relative includes the grandfather of your cohabiting partner.

    In what world would they give you leave for your cohabiting partners grandfather but not your grandfather in law

    This one, since that's what they explicitly wrote. Maybe they meant to include grandfather-in-law and worded it wrongly. Or maybe they felt that the grandfather of a spouse you're not cohabiting with wasn't a close enough relative to qualify.

    I'm not going to claim I know what they meant to write, I'm only going on what they actually wrote.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Wood


    My grandmother died, both my wife and I are in the civil service.

    My wife was granted bereavement leave on the basis of the bereavement leave circular. Through local HR and peoplepoint.

    It's not that difficult to figure out that my wife is cohabiting with me, and is entitled to bereavement leave.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Ted222


    Cohabiting partner includes spouses if they’re living together. Why would it not?????



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Exact same scenario here. Certain people are over-complicating things with the whole marriage thing. The circular includes grandparents therefore if you live (co-habit) with a partner, married OR un-married you are entitled to bereavement leave if their grandparent passes away.



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