Reporting Social Welfare Fraud

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122536169#Comment_122536169

I suppose there's no votes in tackling it?

Some of the people on long-term JSA are unemployable, so i suppose it'e easier to simply pay them?

The Cork man responsible for the longest running welfare fraud, claiming his parents pensions, was himself on JSA for decades:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40809462.html

thebourke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122537532#Comment_122537532

if you are on JSA they never force you to look for a job?

Cherry Blossom

Of course they force you to look for employment, they will either refer you seetec who you have to engage with or recommend you do a CE scheme, if you refuse CE they will refer you to TUS which is much less of a voluntary option than CE. If you refuse that they cut your jobseekers. I’ve never heard of a person on jobseekers that has never had job activation measures forced on them.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122536128#Comment_122536128

JSA is not, nor do we have Dole in Ireland. Of course there are those for whatever reason are on JSA indefinitely but it is supposed to be a temporary payment. Job activation programs have had some effect but little in reducing the amount of time some are on JSA.

Many go on CE schemes & spend years on them despite a limit to the amount of time a person can be on one, people over 55 I believe can essentially get any amount of extensions till retirement age.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122537532#Comment_122537532

…exactly, again, the underlying problems are largely psychologically based, and tend to be very complex in nature, we urgently need to implement health care related policies, to provide such individuals with their needs, and you d be better off just paying them more also, as they d simply spend this money into the economy, benefitting the businesses that receive such money, particularly sme's.

forcing them into employment or education and training simply wont work, as the underlying issues arent being addressed….

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122538883#Comment_122538883

Why my FIL was not subject to job activation / SeeTec, etc., I don't know.

Maybe because he is 60+?

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122539014#Comment_122539014

i have seen lads that age being forced into such programs, its disgraceful really, lads that worked since their teens…

_BAA_RAM_EWE

I don't understand neighbours reporting each other for pennies OP. You are supposedly their friend if they tell you and show you their business data like they have.

If you just add up the money from the children's hospital, pyrite houses bill, over payments to Ukraine's (versus other EU countries) and the huge vast sums going to hotels for IPAs now. It's near or probably over 10billion wasted with just these 3 things (never mind the HSE) in the last few years and here you are fighting over crumbs.

I don't bother with people anymore.

hawthorne

What I don't understand is that there are folks out there who hand out all their private financial data to their neighbours.

I NEVER met any neighbour in my life who gave me any figures or information about his/her various properties or financial affairs.

Could it be that there are people here who post stuff they just made up?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122539014#Comment_122539014

Generally over 60's are not referred to job activation programs, they can however, if they wish go on CE schemes up to retirement age

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122539215#Comment_122539215

All of it, Makey Uppy Nonsense, I believe

mulbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122539215#Comment_122539215

Yes.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122539215#Comment_122539215

Way back, like 40 years ago, one of our law lecturers (A very well known Republican), just to say more people are in the 'joy because they opened their mouth rather than because of what they did. Later as an accountant working in fraud and insolvency, I confirmed his statement, it is not very difficult to get people talking. There is always someone will to talk about what they know, even the suspect in most cases. People just can't keep their mouth shut.

endofrainbow

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122547331#Comment_122547331

I worked with him many years ago. He was a very wide man.

endofrainbow

Wise not wide !