LUAS Network + Future Expansion

spacetweek

I'm confused by the Revised NDP document. Cork Luas isn't listed in it in the project list on page 23 though it is mentioned in the text on page 22:

"On light rail, construction will commence on Luas Finglas, with a Railway Order application expected to belodged in respect of Luas Cork."

Instead, in the public transport project list on page 23 the first two schemes are Cork Area Commuter Rail and Cork Northern Distributor Road. I assume the latter is a typo (since it's a road not a public transport project) and should say Cork Luas.

Appendix A also has "Cork City Northern Transport Project" which is probably the Cork Northern Ring Road.

KrisW1001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124031937#Comment_124031937

Yes. N40 North Ring, plus additional public and active transport measures - similar to how N/M20 was widened to support PT and active travel. There’s a website, with not a whole lot of information, here: Cork City Council Consultation | FAQ

tom1ie

ok alternative Luas route branching from the red line before the red cow marked in purple below:

after the kingswood RL stop the new line continues:

over the M50

into calmount industrial estate- rife for redevelopment to housing

onto greenhills road

bridge over the walkinstown roundabout as its an absolute shite show

on up bunting road towards crumlin village and the childrens hospital.

now we stay on crumlin road up to Dolphins barn then

swing a right onto the canal and go as far as Harold cross where you swing left

and head up to st patricks cathedral

next we go on up to christ church

swing a right and head towrds dame street

terminate on westmoreland street across the road from westmoreland street GL luas stop- no track sharing with the GL.

OisinCooke

I like the routing there actually. Walkinstown could possibly be easier as a cut and cover tunnel, or at least easier to pass through ABP in terms of sight lines and the generally low-lying suburbs.

Then again though, the works required for a tunnel would require almost full closure of the roundabout and the access road that the line would take either side, so maybe not a runner either.

Luas would be a good chance to somehow try and reorganise the mess that is the roundabout currently, although I’m really not sure how that would be done…

I think though that due to the development potential on the line, as well as in Tallaght, this route would probably be preferable as a second metro line - if such a thing was to ever happen - rather than a Luas, extending into the northside towards Coolock and Howth Jnct, opening the two industrial estates there for development similarly.

This would help with modal spacing - not having two heavy rail or two light rail lines side by side, but rather one beside the other - DART SW (heavy), Luas Red (light) Metro 2 (heavy) Luas Terneure/Knocklyon (light) Metrolink (heavy), Luas N11 (light) and DART S (heavy) with orbital busses and tram lines bringing people between each.

Just my personal thoughts on the matter though, obviously I’m not a professional, so take with a pinch of salt. Otherwise though I quite like the routing you’ve suggested.

spark23

I like this would love to see it and fits into other Red line extensions to Lucan and towards Charlemont and hopefully towards Grand canal Dock area