Why are the government intent on forcing through the EU Migration Pact?

skimpydoo

Why are the government intent on forcing through the EU Migration Pact, when we alongside Denmark have an opt out? Denmark are using their opt out as per their citizens wishes, and our government is going against our wishes by not using our opt out. Why are they going against the Irish citizens and doing something that the majority in Ireland don't agree with?

Last night the government once more showed their true colours on this as seen below.

https://x.com/caulmick/status/1803669412530024839

Democracy not on action.

dublin49

The default position of any Irish Government is "lets be good little Europeans"

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058356678/why-are-the-government-intent-on-forcing-through-the-eu-migration-pact

Going against your wishes. You don't speak for everyone.

Which parts of the pact do you have issues with?

Which parts do you agree with?

lmao10

Are you the same guy who thought the far right was "the 90%" when they got 0.4% of the vote?

skimpydoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284279#Comment_122284279

No you have the wrong person.

mulbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284221#Comment_122284221

That's why we need a referendum on it, to see what the majority think

skimpydoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284221#Comment_122284221

I think we should limit how many refugees we allow in the country as we can't even look after all of our own and an inadequate health service doesn't help either.

skimpydoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284291#Comment_122284291

We will never get that under the current government as they know they will lose it.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284299#Comment_122284299

We will never get it because we do not govern by idiotic advisory referenda.

You elected TDs to govern within the framework of the Constitution.

Angeleena

Any Government that is FF and especially FG are desperate or determined to show how diverse and multicultural the country is.

That is why we have 20% of the current population born to non-Irish here or abroad.

I'm certainly not against immigration but I don't know would I hand out so many work visas. Is it because employers want cheap labour?

As for asylum seekers the system was a **** joke since the Anchor Baby problem from 1999 - 2004 (I think or was it 2005). However almost 80% of the population voted no to that yet they still haven't a good asylum seeking process in this country. That is even before the war in Ukraine where we took in over 100,000 Ukrainians. I'm not giving out about them but it's just we now also have "tent city".

Apparently at one stage 80% of deportation order were not enforced. People know that Ireland is a soft touch.

I think this EU Migration Pact should be put to a public vote but little EU lickarses like FG won't do that, as they know that immigration and housing are such sensitive and urgent topics right now. They are so out of touch with the population.

I think we should opt out like Denmark.

Galwayguy35

Rose Conway Walsh said it should be rejected because of human rights issues, whatever that means.

I posted a comment asking her why she isn't highlighting the fact that we will probably end up having to take in even more migrants by accepting it.

She deleted my comment.

The shinners are as bad as the Government when it comes to immigration.

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284297#Comment_122284297

Should we run a referendum on everything you don't like?

uptherebels

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uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284478#Comment_122284478

Can you detail your understanding of work visas in this country.?

Which parts of the pact do you have an issue with?

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284291#Comment_122284291

I agree let the people decide

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284785#Comment_122284785

The Government got their arse kicked in the last referendum, no way will they risk it happening again.

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058356678/why-are-the-government-intent-on-forcing-through-the-eu-migration-pact

and our government is going against our wishes by not using our opt out. Why are they going against the Irish citizens and doing something that the majority in Ireland don't agree with?

How do you 'know' the highlighted?

Scar001

Based on the government's record on housing, health, crime, immigration, we can be guaranteed that when it is passed, they will make a tits of it.

JP Liz V1

Is there a more recent updated poll?

https://www.businesspost.ie/politics/three-quarters-of-people-think-ireland-taking-in-too-many-refugees/

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284854#Comment_122284854

Yes, the European and local elections.

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284854#Comment_122284854

Opinion polls have no official standing in our democratic system. Different ones say different things depending on how questions are worded, methodology used etc.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284875#Comment_122284875

In what way does the local and European elections indicate we want less control over migration into the country and thus more immigration. Did they not just indicate that the following of the far right is pretty much non existent.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284875#Comment_122284875

Yes the Independents did good in those

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284800#Comment_122284800

We must just hope the majority in The Dail object which is probably unlikely, as all EU ar$e lickers

Can we not just do as Denmark

Hungry Burger

It takes any responsibility for the problem away from them. When asked about the migrant issue they can now easily say “We have European obligations” or “Refer to the terms of the Migrant Pact”

Spineless apparatchiks the lot of them.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284922#Comment_122284922

The European elections gave us an opportunity to elect people who were against the pact or against immigration.

Francie Barrett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8enLcOgmNY4

Michael McDowell seems to be one of the few adults left in government. It's frightening just how ignorant most of the rest of them are.

zerosquared

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284297#Comment_122284297

Ain’t that the purpose of this pact ultimately?

BagofWeed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284136#Comment_122284136

The default policy is to listen to all the unelected forums, policy makers and advisors that are funded by and represent the major global corporate and industrial conglomerates.

Scar001

So am I correct in saying we have to take our share of IPAs in Europe based on our population and GDP AND 80% of IPAs coming across the border with the North. I suspect we are being screwed and no other country will have such arrangements.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058356678/why-are-the-government-intent-on-forcing-through-the-eu-migration-pact

There have just been elections in uthe country which suggests that at best you speak for fia small number of people while the two main parties continue to enjoy broad support and have a mandate to do so. That is the essence of democracy and you will have to accept that.