Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471737#Comment_123471737

Plain talking? You mean being a belligerent moron with no tact or manners?

Trying to lecture the President of SA about a "geneocdie" against white South Africans isn't just stupid, it is flat out incorrrect.

Trump clearly hasn't a clue what he is talking about, yet again.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471746#Comment_123471746

I wasn't unhappy to see the South African President humiliated given he is a member of the ANC that has driven South Africa in to the ground with wholesale corruption since the end of apartheid.

What did Trump lie about?

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471772#Comment_123471772

He lied about the completely discredited claim that there is a genocide against white South Africans.

The only humiliation was against Trump, yet again, showing himself to be a baby when it comes to anything diplomatic.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471793#Comment_123471793

Trump never mentioned genocide.

So what did he lie about?

cunnifferous

SA delegation should have walked out. About time someone set some red lines when meeting that clown.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471800#Comment_123471800

He literally had pictures of a burial site, but just said it was in SA (nothing to back it up). You are just being ignorant or disingenuous now.

Again, there is no white genocide against farmers. So, to recap, Trump lied about that to the SA presidents face.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471816#Comment_123471816

Trump never once called the deaths in SA of white farmers genocide in the Oval office. White farmers in SA have been killed and continue to be in danger but so too does a large part of South African society. It applies to everyone. Crime is out of control there.

He specifically said at the end he wasn't using the term "genocide" in response to a journalist.

You are just another anti Trumper who has been caught out in a lie to satisfy your irrational hatred 🙄

ancapailldorcha

He did. Took seconds to find proof:

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-ambushes-south-african-president-by-playing-videos-alleging-genocide-in-south-africa-13372206

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471737#Comment_123471737

Imagine if he bothered confronting Putin about committing genocide? Weirdly doesn't have the guts to do anything when it matters.

dinorebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471865#Comment_123471865

Obviously the frog will ignore this.

AbusesToilets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471855#Comment_123471855

imagine lying when truth is a simple Google away

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471855#Comment_123471855

Give over, that is exactly what he was getting at, and you well know it. Musk was even there and he also peddles that as well.

All of a sudden you seem to care about white SA farmers, and it is ironic to the moon that Trump would try and throw shade at another country when crime in America is not exactly a poster boy for the world.

Classic attempt from a Trump supporter to try and deflect, this was yet another ambush by Trump, complete with a video this time, all trying to look high and mighty. And he just looks like a bully and a child.

You are literally denying what happened, as it has just happened.

nachouser

That moment when Ramaphosa realises he's been Zelenskyy'd. He's thinking, "I wore a suit, dammit. A SUIT."

walshb

chap is unhinged. Incapable of getting along with people. Thrives on being a cu€t

ancapailldorcha

It literally took seconds. I suppose when one has defended Trump from mocking disabled reporter Serge Kovaleski to claiming he could shoot someone and not lose a single supporter to grifting and spreading anti-vaxx drivel during covid to the January 6th coup attempt to being found liable for rape then why would they stop now?

nachouser

The best bit was when they Blue Peter'd it with "Well, here's something we prepared earlier."

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471865#Comment_123471865

@Kermit.de.frog Might be on interest to you. Or, ignore it and claim it didn't happen. This is what goes on when you are part of a cult.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471505#Comment_123471505

One thing which will be on the command-rank persons is how having two or more soldiers/sailors/aircrew of unequal capability working together in a hot or combat zone when failure, due to unequal capability, results in failure of mission due to fatalities. Its not merely the result of block-ticking on a sheet of paper or a policy instruction that one must treat all the subordinates in the unit as equal across the board in order to get ahead in the US DF that is at risk, its the physical life of the unit as a whole.

As Manic Moran put it, a CO is responsible for the behaviour of every member of his/her unit whether he/she was aware or not of what the unit members were or are doing. One ****-up can not only kill members of the unit, but the morale of the unit while the offender behind the [sometimes] unlawful act remains very much alive rubbing in the hurt and injury the unit suffers. Its not something that can be shrugged off once its inside the heads of the unit personnel.

That said. I like the DEI policy as it helps those with capability denied the opportunity to rise excellently in the service they have joined. It can fail, at times, like the [its macker's turn for promotion] unwritten policy in a very large organization and the person faulted can be shifted sideways to a different task in the organization without harm.

One thing that Trump has proven is that he is a class example of the fault which should be shifted sideways, which, in his case, should be to the exit door. He is way beyond the "woodener" level.

breezy1985

People really need to just stop having these meetings with him.

Don't care if it damages relations. You can't trust any deal done anyway.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471924#Comment_123471924

In fairness to Ramaphosa, one of the few things Trump has been consistent on is his pathetically sycophantic habit of kissing up to tyrants and mass murderers. The fact that the right loves to employ fake concern about white farmers might have tipped him off though.

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471855#Comment_123471855

Why doesn’t he give asylum to black farmers?

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471865#Comment_123471865

Trump never said the word "genocide"

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471942#Comment_123471942

Pathetic.

AbusesToilets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471917#Comment_123471917

Failing to meet standards is not the exclusive domain of women, or other minorites. Plenty of service members, even at the most elite level, prove themselves unfit for their station. Recognizing and cultivating competency is a leader's prerogative, so if there are failures they rightfully carry the blame for not addressing them.

DEI policies exist because groups faced a prejudice of incompetency or suitability, as you said. There's nothing to gain from disgarding them. Hegseth is a disgrace, and his efforts clearly show the malign intentions behind his actions. For me, anyone who is supportive of them is equally displaying their values.

Patrick2010

Trump posted about how he hit Bruce with a golf ball

https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1925201677914603580?s=46&t=I5Ng64p4m8u3ocgC9fbhIA

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471943#Comment_123471943

You've been caught out in your anti-Trump rage and hysteria like the other one @Frank Bullitt resorting to lies. 🙄

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471942#Comment_123471942

By your very narrow standards, that word had to be part of the conversation, not the photographic evidence he showed, what he insinuated, what Elon Musk (his right hand man) has been spouting, and the decision to provide asylum to only WHITE South Africans, not black.

The many ways of communication, according to Kermit.

PokeHerKing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471943#Comment_123471943

To be fair to the frog. The article says "genocide" but nowhere in the clip they include does Trump say it.

Theres also no full quote in the article, just "genocide". They have full quotes from both Trump and Ramaphosa in the article that are in the clip but "genocide" is not in the clip.

I'm not claiming he did or didn't, I didnt watch the oval office spectacle.

I'm only commenting on the article and video within that you linked.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471964#Comment_123471964

Now now now, no need to get ratty there.

Hysteria would apply to Trumps behaviour and treatment of another head of state, which is quite pathetic. But I have laid out what he has said and showed, you are free to ignore it. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it is a lie.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123471968#Comment_123471968

Playing the film to Ramaphosa amounts to the same thing. The MAGA types know this but they're desperate to protect him from any criticism of any kind so we get semantics.

My point stands.