Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

sock.rocker*

He couldn't be deported because of danger from Barrio 18. I am beyond sick of the Democrats consistently for a decade making complete pieces of shlt their centrepiece for attacking the Republicans. The guy had a restraining order put on him for a month by his wife for hitting her and ripping off her clothes, and now the American left, yet again, are left defending a vile piece of shlt and the argument turns from "How could you do this to an innocent man?" to "Where is the due process?"

Over and over and over again. Disgusting pieces of garbage. Christ just find some actually good people who are victims and make them the focus.

Do you know how many people I know who've had restraining orders put on them? None. Because I'm a normal person.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371869#Comment_123371869

So it is ok to deport a man without trial because they allegedly attacked a woman?
Should Trump be deported to El Salvador without trial for sexually attacking several women?

sock.rocker*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371884#Comment_123371884

If anyone is guilty of any violence whatsoever, ever, they should be discarded from society forever. That includes Trump and everyone else. That's a position I've had on this site for a long time regarding violence in Ireland.

I don't give a shlt where they are put. Once you're violent to another person, you are removed.

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371887#Comment_123371887

If anyone is guilty of any violence whatsoever, ever, they should be discarded from society forever. 

Every violent crime get's a life sentence…… I can see why Trump appeals to you.

It's easy to say things like this and pretend to be sincere in your assertion given how ridiculous it is.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371887#Comment_123371887

Without trial?
And despite the judicary saying you shouldn't be deported?

BP_RS3813

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371887#Comment_123371887

And what if its violence in self defense? Thats an extremely black and white approach to a much more complex issue.

Also Trump who is guilty of those things in power so who is going to remove him?

sock.rocker*

The reason I'm pissed off is because there are actually other innocent people being caught up in this. The Democrats just seem to love making it as hard as possible on themselves as they possibly can.

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371610#Comment_123371610

You do know Trump supporters are not immune they don't have a magical shield around them. It's going to be a long 4 years for all

sock.rocker*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371894#Comment_123371894

I'm just annoyed that another poster boy in America as an example of misjustice is actually an a-hole. Anyways, I'm checking out of this one for the day.

Edit: But this is consistent with my life views. If you ever throw a single punch, you should be put in a prison off the coast of Ireland forever.

Mattyonthepatty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371900#Comment_123371900

That is the story of the modern Democrat party since Donald Trump blew their brains and world upside down in 2016, they will do anything to get some mud to stick to Donald Trump instead of putting a decent candidate and a good message forward for the American electorate, that includes siding with criminals instead of the President of the United States.

Imagine that the DNC willing to side with members of violent transnational criminal organizationals just to try and win the culture wars against the republicans.

One shouldn't be too surprised I guess as it was Democrat administrations that let flood gates open for these gangs in the first place.

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371919#Comment_123371919

Yes. Of course, that makes sense all violent crimes get you a life sentence…..

"Off the coast of Ireland"….So ship them off somewhere just like……

Stop posturing with big lines that are patently nonsensical.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371929#Comment_123371929

You're watching the trump administration bungle from disaster to bigger disaster, economy messed up, growth negative, innocent people deported, China both being the reasonable one and schooling them on economics, beholden to putin, Elon's savings plan a big giant mess, yet seem to be obsessed with the DNC who don't hold any of the three (four if you include the USSC) institutions in charge of the country.

It's stupid insanity.

The Phantom Jipper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371770#Comment_123371770

Somebody "seeming" like a bad person isn't sufficient grounds to abduct them and imprison them indefinitely in an El Savadoran gulag.

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372014#Comment_123372014

Seems to be a shady character who hung around with gang members

That is why this is an extremely important test case for everyone; The GOP administration are coming under some questioning and scrutiny on this but nothing the usual bluffing and Trumps use of a photoshopped image can't handle.

The "seems to be a shady character" is enough of a pill to swallow for some to justify this and that's all the administration need.

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371929#Comment_123371929

You are talking total MAGA bo**ox. You don't have to look very far for mud which should rightfully stick to Trump. His incitement of the January 6th mob is there for all to see. His call to Brad Raffensberger to find him a few thousand votes in Georgia is also there for all to hear. The real evidence against this dangerous, vindictive clown is overwhelming. Of course the Trump administration has attempted to suppress the evidence produced by Jack Smith, which you cannot undo just by putting someone like Kash Patel in charge of the FBI.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372014#Comment_123372014

If it was sufficient grounds to be put in a prison, then there's more than enough evidence against Trump that he should be languishing in a jail cell right now.

8-10

The administration literally said they deported him in error

greenfield21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371929#Comment_123371929

Or you could say their policies have been completely exposed for the failures they are and they have no clue what to do now. Their main policies - Open borders and globalisation have been completely exposed by Trump. It will be fascinating now as they won't change and accept the vote of democracy, and just like this thread call people stupid and try change them without realising many reject their vision.

looksee

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HE ALLEGEDLY DID (see, I can do capslock too), what matters is that everyone is entitled to due process. It doesn't matter if he is a piece of ****. It doesn't matter what he is alleged to have done. If people can get not only deported but thrown into a permanent jail - yes its permanent, the people in that jail do not get out - just because he doesn't 'seem like' a good person, then where will it stop?

I gather he is in a different jail now, but it is only assumed that the rest of the people rounded up were guilty of gang membership and crimes. Bring them back, try them, then if they are guilty, deport or imprison them (or both). But they can't go around gathering up random people and exporting them with no due process.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371754#Comment_123371754

He became President by talking shìt which i already gave him credit for. He's useless at it like everything else he's ever done but he's a world class waffler.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371610#Comment_123371610

Not necessarily.

4 years of being proven correct is how I'm looking at it.

An easy approach given the performance of the administration.

How're you dealing with having been wrong?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372157#Comment_123372157

He's not though. He even had to have English translated recently. His base are just that stupid and hateful that he gets away with it.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372228#Comment_123372228

Maybe we have different definitions of waffling but to me it would be talking forever without ever making a point or any sense. I think he does that pretty well.

Mattyonthepatty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372228#Comment_123372228

A moderator calling 49.8% of the American electorate stupid and hateful is disappointing if not alarming.

CelticRambler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371485#Comment_123371485

It has nothing to do with the tariffs; it relates to a change in the threshold above which imports have to be declared and have duties applied (or not, depending on the product). In this regard, the US is following in the EU's footsteps - we imposed more or less the same conditions on our non-EU trading partners four years ago and guess what: they all fell into line with barely a ripple felt by those of us who prefer to buy our cheap Chinese crap directly from the Chinese instead of Jeff Bezos.

As far as Temu, Shein, Alibaba/express are concerned, because they already had to modify their platforms to sell into the EU, it'll cost them nothing to include the US … but I'm sure the timing of the annoucement and the price rises will have been carefully planned to make sure their American customers make a connection with Trump's carry-on.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372337#Comment_123372337

But still, the importer pays the duty

If I order something above the threshold from China I'll get a charge from the courier

They don't increase the price as well!

Unless it means they're collecting the duty and paying it on the consumer's behalf? In which case its not a price increase its a separate charge

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372355#Comment_123372355

You're the importer though. Dunno how they'll sell anything if there's a 125% tariff.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372221#Comment_123372221

Bit premature to be saying that you will be proven correct especially when you were wrong on pretty much everything in your election predictions.

Trump has barely served 1/16th of his tenure, its very early days yet.

Its been a very volatile 3 months, errors were made lessons learned.

Still along way to go, its hard to see the wood for the trees with the flooding of the zone, its overwhelming.

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372398#Comment_123372398

errors were made lessons learned.

Yeah, sure.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372398#Comment_123372398

We're only into the start of his tenure and he's collapsed the US economy,collapsed 401ks, destroyed relationships with allies and destroyed the global standing of the US. It's not a sign of a master strategy, it's making the US irrelevant on a global scale. The fact this is how his term has started is a sign of things to come, not some anomaly. Labeling leveling the US economy as errors is ignoring stupidity and insider trading on the back of it for that matter. At what point is he gonna start doing a good job? How high will the cost of living be at that point? It's so very telling that you and others have chosen to avoid this thread. Iirc within a few days you were pretty happy to claim he was doing great, just cause he signed some executive orders but it doesn't count when he does atrociously? I'm also pretty confident if Biden was making such a mess, you wouldn't be so silent. You'll probably blame Biden for a recession or claim it's some genius move on Trump's part.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123372333#Comment_123372333

It's a little over 32% of the US population that voted for Trump, I'd say a substantial portion of them were voting for him based on hatred, stupidity or self interest to the point of missing the fact they'd be a victim of his policies. The relevance of Capaill being a moderator is pretty beside the point. Also just a reminder, plenty of his base are going "oh ****" after realizing the consequences of his policies.