Donald Trump the Megathread part II

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603144#Comment_123603144

Like something out of idiocracy

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603110#Comment_123603110

Indeed in such a case he will claim the beef quota has been increased while not mentioning it requires meeting the EU standards which only a minute number of US beef currently does so increased quota means nothing of benefit. And then in a year he will piss and moan about EU beef standards, claim the deal is terrible despite it being his own and ditch it.

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603018#Comment_123603018

Can anyone explain what I was watching (well, skipping through) here, please?

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123602641#Comment_123602641

was thinking the same, ie. that Trump will POSTPONE the implementation of those parts of his beautiful bill that affect those that benefit from the various food and medical schemes until AFTER the mid term elections

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603218#Comment_123603218

Just seems to be an baboon sitting there.

Not sure what the point of dumping that was.

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603196#Comment_123603196

and what about Trump himself . Even though he was born in America If you go back a generation or two in his lineage you will find that none of his forefathers/foremothers were from America. - HO WAIT , I forgot that that an EO is needed to ‘regulate the deportation of any category of person.

What are the odds of someone ‘slipping’ an EO under his big pen for signing with regards to the depletion of himself!!!!!!!!! I get the clear impression that he does not read what’s in them before he signs them

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603144#Comment_123603144

he continues to ‘Flood the Zone’ . Taking this as an example , he must have the proverbial THOUSANDS’ of similar announcements / events/opinions/ etc to announce to keep the zone flooded?

Murph_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123602585#Comment_123602585

Yes, I wonder where else in the world that happens…

everlast75

Meanwhile, the press continue to sh1t the bed and it never stops being depressing as f***

Nothing in the first article about mass deportations, trillions to be added to the national debt, millions cut from healthcare...

Nothing in the second about his use of a racial slur, nor the ridiculous claims about autism.

Instead, we have headlines and photos which appear to bystanders as "just another day".

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603265#Comment_123603265

Maybe google it?

Murph_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603268#Comment_123603268

No need, but thanks for the suggestion. 😉

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603265#Comment_123603265

AH now, if I read you between the lines correctly , are you not comparing very edible apples for eating to fungus infected oranges!!!!!!!!!??????????

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603196#Comment_123603196

Yes. Or Elon.

The only people he hasn't claimed to be able to deport (yet) are US citizens whose claim to citizenship is based on the fact that their parents were US citizens.

bog master

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603290#Comment_123603290

Hmmm, and when Barron was born, Melania was not a citizen!

thereiver

Thats the plan the cuts to medicare medicare don't come into force until after midterm elections. Maybe most trump voters don't read newspapers the average voter might not want to know the details of the bill that's already passed or they think i.m working there's no way I can lose my health insurance

1000s of new ice agents will be recruited they need constant arrests to justify thier jobs

This amounts to approx 300 billion dollars cuts to medicare medicaid general health care school lunches for low income familys

Theres been articles the last month in most papers about all the bad things in this bill 4 trillion dollars in extra debt

100s of hospitals are at risk of closure as most of their patients are on Medicaid older people with medical problems

Democracy is at risk free speech the right protest is being erased in the guise of fighting antisemitic acts

This is an old tactic dictators use protecting religion as an excuse to ban all public protest or trample the rights of minoritys

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603301#Comment_123603301

Barron's father was, though.

retalivity

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603218#Comment_123603218

Quiet contemplation of the world going to hell, one papercut at a time, soundtracked by an atmospheric Aphex twin tune.

looksee

The world is not going to hell, it has been worse and recovered. The US is doing a pretty good job of destroying itself, but it is not the whole world. We were well overdue for a shake-up and while there are some very bad places to be in in some parts of the world at the moment, it is far from going to hell.

everlast75

Not sure we are debating the finer points of what type of person Trump is allowed deport.

Anyone care to show me the last time he gave two f***s about what was legal and not?

Almost unlimited resources granted to ICE thanks to the bill that passed, his own little private army who walk around without masks disappearing people.

America is sleepwalking into total fascism.

pad406

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603410#Comment_123603410

America is sleepwalking into total fascism.

Couple of months ago I'd have agreed 100% with you on this. Now, no, there's no excuse. it's been obvious and the Orange Buffoon and his sh1tshow sideshow have been very very clear on where they are heading

aloyisious

Another reason not to visit the U.S… Donald Trump signed an executive order to keep with his 'America First' agenda increasing entry fees with a tax on Foreign Nationals at U.S. national parks, while making it less expensive for citizens. The additional revenue generated by higher fees from foreign tourists will raise hundreds of millions of dollars for conservation and deferred maintenance projects to improve national parks, the White House said in a statement.

To be fair to him, putting an extra tax on foreign nationals at U.S. national parks is automatically making it less expensive for citizens, given the Foreign National tax being a differential.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603516#Comment_123603516

Is it though, when the media are reporting as per my post above?

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603332#Comment_123603332

That would give any child presently being deported with an alien or de-naturalized citizen parent a legal way to avoid being deported.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603388#Comment_123603388

It’s less stable than it was- it was always in a state of flux- and it still is- but with America backing away from supporting Europe militarily and taking on the world economically , it’s certainly less safe currently for Europeans at least - economically it’s also less stable at least for the forceable future

pad406

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603614#Comment_123603614

And yet we, 5000km away on a little island can see what's happening?

I agree with your sentiments, I guess I just feel the term 'sleepwalking' is almost like giving them an 'out' or an 'excuse'

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603274#Comment_123603274

ah yes, FG/FF as just so similar to trump and his party 🙄

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603707#Comment_123603707

One of the pics I posted was sky news?

Media this side of the pond are failing too.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603652#Comment_123603652

Not every such child will have a US citizen by descent as their other parent, al.

pad406

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603747#Comment_123603747

In fairness thought, those reports are on Trump getting his bill through. There's no shortage of news on what many say the effects are going to be. Even on that Sky News one it mentions

The bill delivers tax breaks Mr Trump promised in his 2024 election campaign, cuts health and food safety programmes, and zeroes out dozens of green energy incentives.

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), it will lower tax revenues by $4.5trn over 10 years and add $3.4trn to the US's $36.2trn debt.

Every Democrat in Congress voted against the bill, blasting it as a giveaway to the wealthy that will leave millions of Americans uninsured.

"The focus of this bill, the justification for all of the cuts that will hurt everyday Americans, is to provide massive tax breaks for billionaires," he said.

The bill's spending cuts largely target Medicaid, the health programme that covers 71 million Americans on low incomes.

It will tighten enrolment standards, institute a work requirement and clamp down on a funding mechanism used by states to boost federal payments.

The changes could leave nearly 12 million people without health insurance, according to the CBO.

Eye balling it, roughly half the article.

But at the same time you're right. Imagine if it was Biden or Obama doing all this. The republicans would be everywhere shouting and screaming, yet the Dems are hardly to be seen (so no news to report). Maybe they're afraid of the 'fake news' retort that will come and which will only embolden the maga crowd. are they just waiting till it all blows up? No idea, but its a dangerous approach. Their lack of leadership is very telling at the moment.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123603026#Comment_123603026

Nobody other than the U.S. consumer is going to be paying whatever that tariff may be. The only way they would not be is if those companies producing those goods moved from Europe to the U.S. to produce them.

Those companies set up their production in the E.U. for various reasons. In our case because it was cheaper to do so here than in the U.S. and because we had a well educated workforce capable of doing the job. Would those companies move back to the U.S. where none of that has changed, especially where the present morons in charge are intent on destroying what is left of their education system and up sticks and say goodbye to all their investment in the E.U. because of a 10% increase in the cost of their products to just the U.S.while leaving themselves at the mercy of a gang of grifters that have now increased their national debt to unsustainable levels who in all likliehood would soon start leaning on them mafiosa style ? I very much doubt it.

Trump can dress it up as a win for U.S. beef, pork, chicken and any other agricultural product he likes. It would play well to his MAGA states, but it would not gain them a red cent as due to the E.U. health and standards the E.U. will not be buying any of it. He can do the same for LNG, but again it would be meaingless. With Russian gas gone the E.U. needs LNG and the worry since the invasion of Ukraine has been where to get enough of it do cover for the loss of Putin`s gas.