Dangerous driving by dashcam warrior

Whocare

Will garda do anything about this ? On way to work country road behind car could see he had dashcam screen Illuminated so I said I better only pass him out on Broken white line behind him for 3km him not great driver over white hitting cat eyes going 55 /60km max anyway come to A straight part of the road went to passing out he Started Accelerating hard must say it was Extremely dangerous road wet bit of standing water only for my car being more powerful 2.0tdi compared to that car smaller Peugeot 206 or like I don't what would have happened if was inexperienced driver or if there was car comings toward us (driving truck ect so pretty good driver myself) his driving could definitely cause fatal crash plus he definitely knew what he was doing as went I passed out he was flashing his lights like a nut job

Maybe 6 months ago I started tread about same driver being dashcam warriors went I pass him out flashing lights ect must be very Nervous driver or someone he knows got killed but what he did this morning was Ridiculous he must be doing it all time didn't realise it was same driver but thinking back on it definitely was him

Have all on dashcam what he did would garda have word with him I wounder if show footage to garda I wounder ?

walshtipp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978197#Comment_121978197

Or just have a dashcam to have footage in the event of an accident?

magicbastarder

yeah, what's the point in having a camera unless you leave it on all the time?

chooseusername

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978197#Comment_121978197

Like Whocare!

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978244#Comment_121978244

Twitter

(Mythbusters voice) Well, THERE'S your problem

Whocare

Might post up dashcam footage after work ect

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058345143/dangerous-driving-by-dashcam-warrior

I find your post difficult to follow but by the sounds of it, you overtook when it wasn't really suitable. You've described it as dangerous and how someone could have been killed. Overtaking is a dangerous manouvre. You were the one who increased the risk on the road. So, in what way do you think that the person you were overtaking is responsible?

magicbastarder

anyway we came to a straight part of the road; went to pass out, he started accelerating hard. must say it was extremely dangerous. Road wet, bit of standing water; only for my car being more powerful 2.0tdi compared to that car

that's the way i assume the relevant section is intended.

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978351#Comment_121978351

Maybe you can't read ? I passed out on straight part of the road Broken white line of car that was doing 55km and went I was passing out he Accelerate hard so definitely not me at fault

Seth Brundle

^^^

So after some bends, they came to a straight stretch and the driver in front increased their speed - which is exactly what one would expect especially if the driver in front felt under pressure for driving more slowly.

Again, this looks like the OP misread the road completely making their overtake more risky.

I'd like to see the dashcam footage to see if I'm misunderstanding the series of events.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978197#Comment_121978197

You seem fairly permanently outraged yourself.

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978405#Comment_121978405

Personally I don't care what you think garda will make there judgement. And went did I say it was after bends he was going slow on straight part of road too but as it was Continuous white line you can't legally pass out and The acceleration was not normal it was Flat to the mat trying to kill me

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

We need the footage.

Hurrache

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978244#Comment_121978244

I got hit by a bus, was wearing casual shorts at the time, not a hint of Chinese tat or lycra about me. Luckily my camera caught it from front and back and he was brought to court on a charge of careless driving (was initially a charge of dangerous driving but the lesser charge was easier to get a conviction).

Thankfully I've such a mastery of video editing I manged to make it look like I wasn't just standing on the side of a road awaiting a large vehicle to come by me so I could step out in front of it and see what happens.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978425#Comment_121978425

When you mentioned this…

anyway come to A straight part of the road

…it was a logical assumption that before this wasn't straight!

As for the other driver's behaviour, I wasn't there so can only build a picture based on your post (which I did say wasn't clear). Post the footage and we will see what you experienced.

Marlay

could see he had dashcam screen Illuminated so I said I better only pass him out on Broken white line

If he hadn't had the dashcam you would have overtaken on a continuous line then?

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978425#Comment_121978425

i thought your powerful 2 litre diesel was going to overwhelm his peugeot 308 😁 not sure what you are looking for here, you dont sound like you covered yourself in glory either.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978474#Comment_121978474

i hadn't spotted that - proof that dashcams do have a positive effect!

.red.

You wrote

"must say it was Extremely dangerous road wet bit of standing water"

That to me reads like you overtook him on a stretch of road that was extremely dangerous with lots of standing water.

If he accelerated then he was acting the maggot but you shouldn't be overtaking on a section of road like that. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978536#Comment_121978536

Personally I'm not too concerned about me as if driving artic last 8 years I can read road. But if was just normal driving inexperienced maybe and came cross him and if there was car comings could Easily be fatal and that what I be saying to garda

dulpit

This thread reads like somebody complaining that they can't drive dangerously and overtake on bends/continuous white lines because the car they wanted to go past has a dashcam…

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978484#Comment_121978484

All I was pointing out with that he was Accelerating so hand I was actually surprised it go accelerated that hard peugeot it was actually a 206 or like Focus size

artanevilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978197#Comment_121978197

What was the speed limit on this dangerous road with standing water?

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978638#Comment_121978638

Your posts are very difficult to follow Without the footage it's your version of events only.

Every motorist should be concerned about their own driving. So what if you are experienced or drive a truck? Overtaking is not a right.

The easiest and safest thing here was to abort overtake and avoid possible impact with car coming head on.

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978777#Comment_121978777

80km it was Puddle. Very surprised with attitude I'm getting let have people on road went go pass out Accelerate hard and if was inexperienced driver and if car was coming mightnt know what do and have head on crash f

As Responsible citizen i definitely be going to garda now Dashcam footage will show what that nut cases did

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978670#Comment_121978670

You need go back school as you can't read

RurtBeynolds

Are you drunk OP?

L1011

You have admitted to considering overtaking him on a solid line and to overtaking on an "extremely dangerous road", despite whatever revisionism you've done afterwards. I wouldn't be bringing your dashcam footage to AGS if I were you, as I suspect you might have done something you don't want them to see in the first place.

Fast accelerating small cars exist, particularly electric models.

SteM

You were close enough to see he had a dash cam running, you recognise him from before but you don't know what car he was driving? Please post the footage.

Ted222

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978197#Comment_121978197

I find that offensive and ageist. I’m nearly 60 and I still desperately look for things to be outraged by.

hoodie6029

Sorry that happened you OP, very unnerving.
Not accelerating while being overtaken is in the Rules of Road and would be prosecuted by Careless or Dangerous driving offences. The other driver was completely reckless here.
Unfortunately, some people have no power in their lives and the only way they have to feel some power to ‘patrol’ the roads, set the speed on a road where they knew people can’t overtake easily. The same people hold up the queue in the Post Office or Supermarket at busy times having banter and myriad other ways to feel power and control.
Me, sometimes I’m not in a rush going somewhere and don’t feel like pushing on, or if I’m in my camper, I am still conscious of other traffic and keep to let faster cars off or speed up where I can’t do that. It’s no skin off my nose. A lot of drivers seem to think they own the road in front of them and everyone else can just wait.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978351#Comment_121978351

In fairness some drivers consider any overtaking of themselves, or when they are on opposite irrespective how much time/distance from overtaking car, a dangerous manoeuvre with flashing lights and shaking fist the std response.

II'm Impressed that you can assert what is a dangerous manoeuvre from that post.

liamog

Was there a speed limit change at the same time as the road opened up? I've seen a few people caught out by cars increasing speed when the limit changes because they were so impatient and wanted to overtake before the change.

When I was driving my Up! I used to regularly see large German saloons get left on the wrong place of the road behind me as I would accelerate to the new limit.

fatbhoy

This site is getting worse. Whocare clearly explains he got to a part of the road where it was safe and legal to overtake, he started overtaking, and the other driver took umbrage at Whocare's "temerity" to overtake his royal highness and tried everything he could to prevent that. A strange attitude is being adopted by a lot of posters in this thread towards Whocare.

artanevilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979068#Comment_121979068

I don't think he did himself any favours by calling the other driver a "dashcam warrior" as if that was actually relevant.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979032#Comment_121979032

What I said was that "overtaking is a dangerous manouvre" - it is because you are moving to the other side of the road to pass another driver. This isn't just my opinion - I could refer you to RoSPA

Overtaking is one of the highest risk manoeuvres for both drivers and riders because it can put the overtaking vehicle into the path of oncoming traffic, often at high speeds. If there is a head-on collision, the speed of both vehicles combines to create a much more severe impact.

Nonetheless, it was also the OP who described their manouvre as having been dangerous and I quote:

…Extremely dangerous road wet bit of standing water…
I don't what would have happened if was inexperienced driver or if there was car comings toward us…his driving could definitely cause fatal crash

so no need to be impressed at what I posted, it really is basic knowledge of how to drive

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979094#Comment_121979094

Especially given that the OP told us that they also have a dashcam and reckons they will show the footage to AGS!

tphase

OP, a bit of punctuation would help to make your posts a bit readable. You're really in no position to insult people in respect of their reading abilities.

Your experience is not unique, it's happened to me (and people I know) more than once. Usually the slower driver doesn't know there's a car behind them until it draws level when overtaking and only then they start accelerating hard.

I look forward to seeing your dashcam footage when you post it. Hard to make a judgement one way or the other based on the written account presented

CoffeeImpala

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979095#Comment_121979095

I'd say there should probably be a full stop after the "Extremely dangerous" to indicate that the OP was referring to the accelerating as you're being overtaken rather than the road condition.

But stream of consciousness posts are hard to decipher so who can say.

Oscar_Madison

happens me about twice a month - it’s not a unique experience at all - the key to dealing with such idiots OP is not look as though you’re trying to overtake - assume they’ll increase speed when the road ahead is clear so be ready to overtake fast as soon as it’s safe to do so - they’ll likely not accelerate as quickly if you look like you’re happy doing 60kmph

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979189#Comment_121979189

Yes but as a driver, probably the most dangerous thing you will do on the road is overtake another moving vehicle.

The road conditions being wet, etc and the other driver acting the mick will obviously increase the potential for a collision

easygoing39

This topic badly needs the OP to post the dashcam footage.

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979042#Comment_121979042

Did you keep accelerating when you spotted that you were being passed?

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978983#Comment_121978983

I was perfectly legal

Ted222

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979042#Comment_121979042

Why wouldn’t you allow them pass you before accelerating? You’re holding them back overall and just winding them up.

SteM

OP, not sure you said but what was the speed limit on the road?

Whocare

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121978988#Comment_121978988

6 am still darkish so Illuminating the car interior. Dashcam footage posting here will need see what garda say first you never know might want see him in court

liamog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121979277#Comment_121979277

I'm not holding them back by travelling at the speed limit and they're not alongside me as I accelerate due to the speed change.

I've no problem with somebody who wants to pass me as I'd rather have the eejit be in front of me instead of behind, but they need do so at a safe location. Overtaking somebody at the point the speed limit changes is not very safe in my opinion as you should expect the other driver to also be changing speed.

Daniel son

Have you been driving long?

Uncle Pierre

No offence to OP, but the way the initial account was written clearly gives rise to some confusion. So in an attempt to help him by clarifying things, here's what I think he means:

• OP drove behind a car travelling at 55 to 60 km/h for about 3km, waiting for the opportunity to overtake.
• When they came to a straight stretch of road, driver in front at first continued to drive at 55 to 60 km/h, so OP began an overtaking manoeuvre.
• Driver in front then also sped up in a direct reaction to OP beginning to overtake, delaying the overtaking manoeuvre from being completed safely. This, rather than the road itself, is the thing that OP considers was "extremely dangerous".

@Whocare - is this a fair enough summary, from your point of view?

I do agree with other posters here that seeing your own footage would be useful, but I understand if you're reluctant to post it before first showing to Gardaí, if indeed you intend to do so.

JVince

Most posters (inc myself) seem to be confused. If I read it correctly then the OP needs some lessons as I suspect it is their driving that was particularly bad.

Am I correct.

You are driving a very powerful audi and behind a smaller vehicle that did not have the power or prestige of your audi.

The road had bends and there was an unbroken white line.

As you had a very powerful audi, you contemplated overtaking the smaller less powerful vehicle on the unbroken white lines because that vehicle had a dashcam and therefore could report you to the gardai (assuming no oncoming car crashed into you whilst dangerously overtaking)

The road opens up to a straight stretch and the vehicle in front dares to increase their speed as the road condition is now safer for a higher speed of 60km.

But because you have a more powerful audi. You are obviously entitled to overtake the smaller vehicle and that they have no right whatsoever to increase their speed on the straighter stretch of road because you and your very powerful audi want to do that and smaller cars do not have that right?

And you wonder if you can make a complaint about this other motorist because you and your very powerful audi had to make an added effort and even higher speed to overtake this lesser vehicle on a wet road with standing water.

Have I got this correct???