2020s the Reign of Narcissism ?

MéFéin, Me Mine, I. Era of pronouns. First person singular is the overriding one, but third person singular omits multitude of forms next. Second, and plural forms may take a rear seat these days.

what had brought bus to this most narcissistic of modern times?

cj maxx

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You must have missed the 90's and the Celtic money grab !

Yep I grabbed that much, but it’s filtering down to tons of the little people. Mainly the young people, but plenty of people my vintage succumbing too. I even notice my own vanity taking root where I had little or none before.

Say Your Number

If I could be arsed to find the quote from that ancient Greek philosopher I'd post it.

endacl

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‘Use the force, Luke’

— Gandalf

cj maxx

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I find it different. In the late 90's' early 200's people were going mad on credit. Buying cars , lorries , tractors, houses. In 98 you'd swear people were on drugs and money was burning a hole in their pocket with no end to it.

Jequ0n

The irony ..

Victor

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The young people? In 1991, the most common word out of my then 3-year old niece's mouth was "MINE!!".

And are you forgetting The Former Guy? King of narcissism.

Kaybaykwah

My buddy Darcy swears he is the most humble of them all, his repeated claims he says, are due to his "Darcycism".

sydthebeat

I haven't noticed.

The J Stands for Jay

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Well, it's not for nothing that the Baby Boomer generation were also known as Generation me. We're just seeing the cultural effects of them through their descendants now. They've already screwed up business and the environment, so their offspring is just following on.

mariaalice

Id say we all have a touch of it.

I'm more fascinated by the rise of the...feelings trump evidence culture.

Ash.J.Williams

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Most of us were on drugs in 98, ecstasy 3rd wave was in full flight

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My mother sold the Rathmines family home during that time, ordinary semi-D, it fetched an unseemly sum and long story short set me up for life as I was the only child. Yes, she & I were mightily chuffed, and I still look back with a fondness on that era that so ms y wouldn’t. Wealth & spending will always intoxicate the human mind, it’s the way we were built, unless you make the decision to live an ascetic life.

But I’m really talking about the individualism that characterises life now. We hear daily about “mental health” from Individuals going through the normal hurdles of life and comparing it to very serious mental health issues that do affect some people. The message is increasingly an out individualism as the expense of community. We hear we can be exactly what we want to be, do what we want to do, irrespective of consequences on others. Mé Féin all the way.

I see it in myself, I used to be a much more charitable person, but I’ve found myself involved in my own individualism. Everybody else is doing it and I would feel badly done by if I didn’t do my own little bit of self-importance, it being the norm these times.

I grew up in an era where you deferred to others, I was brought up to believe others were at least a bit more important than me. That was Catholicism of course, and we know how such deference worked out. We’ve gone the other extreme now.

Ash.J.Williams

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I'm in the office today and lads are wearing "mom jeans"

ballyharpat

I think Covid really exacerbated it. I used to be very involved in the community and in my neighborhood, reporting problems to the guards and council, getting improvements that benefitted all of us and acting on antisocial behaviour'.

In the last two years, I have some neighbours that stopped parallel parking and just drive straight into a parking spot, then instead of parking up to the car in front, they reverse back, leaving 10 feet in front, then another lady started doing it, so now two other neighbours that work long shifts have no space to park in on that row. The thing is, they can do this, it's not against the law, but 'can' do something, does not mean you 'should'. It's lead to lots of issues and a complete lack of community in the area. It also drives down the value of houses, as now people see how few spaces there are when they want to buy here-given the limited parking spaces, this is a big issue.

I've spoken to a therapist that took two years off, he was tired of the narcissism and the way people do not want to accept responsibility for their actions. One lady was carrying in a recorder to have him saying things in her life were her responsibility, another guy took him to court , and won, for his wife leaving him after some sessions-this is just the tip of the iceberg, look at the rental crisis, landlords are leaving because tenants are not leaving their properties, other landlords are gouging tenants at a massive rate-this was happening on a much smaller level before when people acted, in some way, for the good of society.

B2021M

And we've probably never been closer to communism. But yeah all narcissism too.

Baba Yaga

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what are "mom jeans" ? 🤔

silliussoddius

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It’s more than feelings trump evidence, many of the people who will go by “f* feelings” are guilty of the same thing: being loud and obnoxious trumps evidence or all opinions have the same merit. It’s like some kind of hyper solipsism.

Ash.J.Williams

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It's an actual thing 😀

whisky_galore

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It's only wearing a Ché T-shirt sort of communism.

Irish people are far too greedy to be proper socialists.

Kaybaykwah

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Ché T-shirt and Chanel belt buckle kind of nation. All.

JupiterKid

Social media has driven much of this regrettable trend over the past 15+ years and Covid exacerbated it, the era of the endless FB selfies on people's posts, day in, day out.

People are certainly much more selfish and self-centred now combined with a big sense of entitlement than when I was young. Also, not willing to own one's actions, take responsibility and blaming everyone else for a situation of their own doing is commonplace now.

And then there's the atomisation of society, the decline of family and the rise of superficiality and image driven by "celeb" culture which is IMO is toxic.

As Ireland embraced secularisation and prosperity over the past three decades, in many ways the baby was thrown out with the bathwater.

mariaalice

Before everyone gets into a crescendo of giving out about everything.

Something I have heard is the phenomenon of an individual going in to work in an office or any work situation and nobody saying hello, so an older person I'm acquainted with said it is happening, and because of that, they make a point of saying good morning loudly when they go in, so from that a primary school teacher was telling me that she makes a point of teaching the children to say hello if someone comes into the room.

What I don't understand is why would you have to teach a child to say hello.

Baba Yaga

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seriously....? i despair...we're not going to make it as a species,are we?

Jequ0n

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What does any of this have to do with this thread?

Photobox

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This x 100, I would also add the nanny state we live under has added to less personal responsibility.

Montage of Feck

As I sat in the canteen at work yesterday, alone, surrounded by young ones with Bluetooth headphones on and eyes fixed to tiny screens, I wondered what kind of distopia am I in.

BrianD3

Social media plus Covid has encouraged some problematic behaviours and affected people's social skills. I remember at the start of the pandemic, I worked in the public service and as we were trying to plan for the looming apocalypse, I dealt with people from various state bodies who were at pains to stress how they were ESSENTIAL workers doing critical, essential work. When, objectively, given what was happening, they weren't. Just living in their own little bubbles and full of sh*te.

Then as the pandemic got going, healthcare workers were worshipped as martyrs and heros by many and how did they react? Filmed "dancing" videos to post on social media, look at MEEE! Jesus wept. Subsequently, as things got back to normal I've dealt with many healthcare workers and the amount of arrogance, rudeness, disrespect and condescension I've encountered is, I'd say worse than before. I think they started to believe their own BS.

ruth...less

Think the social media thing does increase narcissism tbh cause it's like you're talking to people but alot of the time you're talking at people or announcing ****, **** you wouldn't announce to people in certain circumstances because you'd naturally guard yourself or protect them.

For example someone has a significant loss or bereavement...Ive seen it in whatsApps and things, everyone aklowkedges the loss then suddenly and I understand it but then it's like..'oh I got my hair done today and I chipped a nail ' but the person before has just had life changing issue or whatever it is and obviously people are just innocently going on with their lives but it can seem harsh when someone is in grief or hurt or you know. It can seem cold even though it's not intended. I guess it's a realistic slap in the face of life goes on that I think wasn't always exposed to people who are vulnerable at that time before social media.

DvB

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I tend not to post in AI, but had to after reading this.

Excellent post.