Are the Irish fit to be let at the controls?

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121807898#Comment_121807898

I was suggesting that an Irish individual getting on a high horse and hot under the collar over personal tax avoidance when the country itself is a tax avoidance industry requires an odd level of national awareness.

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murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808012#Comment_121808012

There's no doubt that the way things are done have to change and that includes how we govern.

The country is growing rapidly and needs massive investment in roads, housing, health, transport etc to cater for that.

Things need to happen rapidly but things move far too slow. Case in point being metro. After 20 years it's now got to public hearing for one line, just one line not 3 or 4 and instead of just being bulilt ignorant TDs and senators who should not be allowed get involved are at this late stage voicing objections to routing and terminus and it's pure NIMBYISM and not working in national interest. Media give voices to krank economists like Colm McCarthy too and this then could lead to more delays and falling behind. Very frustrating.

Whole system needs to change along with mindset. That's what I find frustrating about Ireland but again it does not make the country a disaster.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121807888#Comment_121807888

Yep, I also came a while ago and am intending to depart. I just don't like socialism and this is basically a socialist country.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121807908#Comment_121807908

It isn't wholy an Irish thing, but this would be one of the worst countries for it.

A few years ago South Australia had a storm which triggerd a lot of wind farms to shut down and damaged some power lines. Cascading failures shut down most of the grid for many hours.

They identified the weakness and then built and commissioned the worlds largest grid battery in under a year. Under a year, under a year, under a year....

This country would still be debating forming a committe to take submissions and evaluate proposals and make recommendations in several years time, a decade after the power outage, then there would be another 15 years to get anything that eventuated through the planning process.

The need for a national childrens hospital was identified in around 1997, I believe - F me dead.

Lets try this one. Limerick has needed a far larger, modern, new build hospital for over 20 years to replace that hopeless rabbit warren that is Limerick regional. Two teenage girls died in the hospital very recently because it's just hopelessly inadequate.

But you know what, there isn't even a national debate or recognition that a new large and expensive replacement is required as a matter of urgency, when it's beyond effing obvious! It was bloody obvious 20 years ago when I remember standing in my kitchen hearing about the panic over the number of people on trolleys at Limerick RH.

20 years on and two girls have just died because this problem hasn't been addressed. You can only fix this problem one way but that fix isn't even a consideration, 20 years on, and we just had a €10 billion revenue surplus and there are media articles about the problem of what to do with such a surplus - AAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhh!!!!!!!!

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808130#Comment_121808130

Socialist country? 😂

Is there anything FF or FG haven't sold off yet?

SuperBowserWorld

But we have the most expensive hospital on the world !

Why have 5 hospitals when you can have a lovely unopened oval one in the middle of a traffic jam.

It's like Leo and co trying to solve Israel/Gaza, Ukraine/Russia, Climate Change, housing the World !!!, , instead of ***** building houses, hospitals, rail lines ...training plumbers and carpenters.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121807888#Comment_121807888

You're South African and you think Ireland is a poor, mismanaged country that can't look after its people?

You are from the country with quite literally the highest level of inequality in the world.

Proof, if ever it was needed, that this is a ridiculous thread. The fact that you're still here 20 years later would seem to indicate that you're full of sh1t.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121807880#Comment_121807880

You can add another €2,500 per head of population that will be required to meet 2030 climate goals. But don't worry, there are only 1,651,900 actual taxpayers, so if you aren't one of that minority you can rest easy that someone else will shoulder that burden for you.

The over-regulation, compliance, and everyone can have their say culture is a response to the failures of the past, industrial schools, the Madaglin laundries, and the planning tribunals are a few examples. c

Glaceon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808118#Comment_121808118

But all of the strings will be pulled to get the Adare bypass and Foynes railway line going for the Ryder Cup no doubt. If you want to get something done in this country, get a big sporting event involved.

SuperBowserWorld

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808413#Comment_121808413

I am part of the squeezed muddle. 😁

Ireland is fantastic country on so many level, it's just that in certain areas things seem to get boged down and take years to get done.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808370#Comment_121808370

Yeah, the second highest paid public sector in the EU.

You wouldn't find any takers for them, though.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808465#Comment_121808465

We have high wages across the board.

How does that make us a Socialist Country?

Actually probably just easier to ask you how would you define a socialist country?

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121806401#Comment_121806401

Cromwell lived here for a period too, what's your point?

The idea that some long dead imperialist's opinion on Ireland is valid is hilarious.

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Milominderbender

There needs to be a clear out of the powers that be in Ireland. Being occupied by Britain for centuries has left the country with a collaborator class. With the waning of the British empire and rise of the American one even the accents have changed from D4 to fake yank.

The country needs an independent direction. We need our own indigenous companies instead of relying on multinational companies that are here on a tax scam. The former however requires hard work and creativity.

Another issue we have is that our education system is geared towards rote learning. The mere ability to remember and repeat data while useful is not a marker of true intelligence. Can anyone make the argument that our leadership is comprised of people who can think and act independently ?

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808401#Comment_121808401

Surely the equivalent of a transit verbund here is the NTA?

The NTA is not an NGO, it is a State Agency.

The main operators here are semi-states, like CIE, etc.

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808401#Comment_121808401

These are not NGOs. The complete opposite . They are Government bodies. Do you seriously think large bodies like transport in Ireland and Germany are run by charities?

nachouser

Ah yeah, just hand the place over to one of the Big 4 and let them run it.

Daft thread.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808411#Comment_121808411

Boards and Reddit is a wash with them lately. No idea what is going on, but the victimhood taking hold is laughable, the desire for Ireland to be this cesspit of a place...when nearly every metric points towards a very well functioning democracy.

It is not perfect, but of course, people are free to leave if they want like I did. My recent extended stay in Ireland opened my eyes to what a different place Ireland is now, for the better. But if I were to go off what I read on here, you'd swear it was something like you see on Peaky Blinders (the haircuts are the same though).

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808389#Comment_121808389

100% agree

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808777#Comment_121808777

The Big 4 are already making massive money in government contracts.

trashcan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121806077#Comment_121806077

Some of us seem to have a strange need for self hate in this country, I wonder is this unique to us ? Maybe some have really bought into the “thick Paddy” stereotype perpetuated by the British.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121806059#Comment_121806059

The globalists must have been around since the 1920's.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808130#Comment_121808130

Is it really a Socialism? Not seeing that from the perspective of a middle class working person.

Wanderer78

...and once again, the excess lending was actually done in private sector financial institutions, i.e. private sector banks, this was in fact encouraged and facilitated by our governments at the time, i.e. the excess money creation was actually done by these banks themselves, this was done to cause a credit(money) fueled housing bubble, which of course lead to a monumental failure of these banks, when it all failed, then of course we bailed them all out......

....thankfully we ve learned our lessons from all of this, implemented regulations required, preventing another credit fueled bubble from occurring, i.e. its simply not possible for other entities of our financial system such as shadow banking sectors, i.e. pension and investment funds etc from also causing another credit fueled bubble, that would just never happen!

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808979#Comment_121808979

It’s like some bastardized mongolian clusterf**k of gombeenism, capitalism and socialism where nothing seema to work. Personally I think Irish people want a form of socialism, but don’t want to pay for it. A solution might be to give Country Councils more power and funding/tax so there is less reliance on the national government, I could be very wrong but I think if people saw more how money was spent locally from local taxes then things might be taken more seriously.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121809022#Comment_121809022

Great post. I'd add in cronyism. Will openly admit that I completely underestimated how important it is.