A Question for Muslims?

mikeybhoy

Was looking at X this evening and a very good question came up. So there are 49 predominantly Muslim countries in the world okay. So if you practice Islam and want to live under Sharia law why in gods name would you want to come to live in Ireland or any other Western Christian country for that matter when there's 49 countries that support your ideology and way of life, why come and live in one that doesn't?

Timfy

I think, and I am not a muslim so feel free to ignore, that should you be a muslim with only a moderate following of your faith (such as 99% of Irish Catholics) and you are homosexual or against the right wing tendencies of your church or indeed one of a million different reasons then moving to another country that does not put the death penalty on your beliefs makes perfect sense.

Thelonious Monk

Maybe because Muslims can freely practice any religion in Ireland, while also getting to live in a peaceful, rich country with far more opportunities? Pretty obvious to me really.

I would imagine most Muslims aren't hardcore either. One Dutch/Moroccan friend of mine drinks and parties and acts like we do but still has some kind of Muslim faith.

I.R.Y.E.D

The same reason why Irish Christians go live in predominantly Muslim countries.

mikeybhoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786385#Comment_121786385

Okay fair enough but nearly every Christian I know doesn't practice yet every Muslim I've ever met tells me they go to the mosque every Friday, doesn't drink or eat pork, does Ramadan and reads the quran. Yet 90% of Irish people I know doesn't go to mass on Sunday, read or the bible or partake in Lent.

That doesn't make sense any sense to me if you're gay why would you practice a religion that clearly hates you. Is it even possible to be a gay Muslim?

macchoille

My guess is the majority that come here would be moderate to maybe liberal, it’s some of the second generation that then get a bit radicalised.

mikeybhoy

So read this a Tunisian iman living in France thinks is against the Tricolour. If he hates living in a non Muslim country so much why doesn't he just return to Tunisia where he'll never have to look at a Tricolour. https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1759224563198534001?t=6aJ_vqsuz7ePBasdkHLCxg&s=19

Strumms

Even moderate Muslim countries like the UAE are a lot more strict than Ireland…. In terms of freedoms we can do pretty much everything and anything here… so the appeal is natural I’d guess.

silliussoddius

Something similar to Irish going to Britain to work and then donating to certain cultural organization.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786439#Comment_121786439

One bloke out of the probably millions of Muslims in France. Not quite sure what you want out this thread apart from getting your point across that they should f*ck off home.

mikeybhoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786394#Comment_121786394

Is your friend your aware that drinking alcohol is punishable by 40 lashes under Sharia law?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786439#Comment_121786439

Yep haha. I’m pretty sure he knew there’d be a tricolor there, before he got there…. Just stirring the pot

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336813/a-question-for-muslims

They simply don't mind the concept of separation of church and state. There's a myriad of reasons beyond that too I imagine. Feel like your mind will be blown that there are in fact LGBT Muslims as well. Plenty of people simply have a different attitudes to the strictness of religious practices etc and others end up with their own interpretation of their faith. Irish Catholics should be well aware of this....

Overheal

"Was looking at X this evening and a very good question came up."

mikeybhoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786505#Comment_121786505

It makes no sense to me that someone would follow a religion that wants them executed. If I was gay there's not a hope in hell I'd still follow Islam and call myself a Muslim.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786418#Comment_121786418

Perhaps you need to get out a bit then and broaden your mind! You seem to think religion and sexual orientation dominates everyone’s life….. The simple answer is it doesn’t, people move to other countries for all sorts of reasons - family, opportunities, work, education and so on…. Things for some reason you can’t comprehend.

mikeybhoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786531#Comment_121786531

True but yet they still set up mosques here

Ten of Swords

Mod - Can we have a proper, mature, constructive discussion about this topic or will I just close it up now?

@mikeybhoy @Thelonious Monk looking in your direction...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336813/a-question-for-muslims

So if you practice Islam and want to live under Sharia law why in gods name would you want to come to live in Ireland or any other Western Christian country

They don't - they tend to stay where they are. The ones who move to the west tend to be more relaxed about their religion, while still retaining their faith.

Robert Nairac

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336813/a-question-for-muslims

Islamists want to conquer, not coexist. Spreading Islam/conquering territory is part of their ideology.

CalamariFritti

never mind

archfi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786385#Comment_121786385

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786394#Comment_121786394

You both are extremely naive.

silliussoddius

For a while canon law seemed predominant in Ireland, there must have been an exodus to Rome.

Rubberchikken

A person can want to enjoy all the things Ireland offers and still practice their religion.

Lots of Catholics did this back when the church here was very dominant.

I.will be honest and say that I would like to see people, regardless of religion, integrate themselves when they arrive here. I don't mean change religion, just accept that you're in a different country now with different ways and fit in and accept that.

The idea of little versions of other countries springing up around the place doesn't appeal.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786526#Comment_121786526

You have very little control over what you believe. Aside from choosing what information streams to expose yourself to, you're basically not in the driving seat at all I'm afraid.

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336813/a-question-for-muslims

Not ever Muslim wants to live under Sharia law.

they can easily follow their faith and live in a western society

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786418#Comment_121786418

Of course it is. There are LGBT Catholics and there are LGBT Muslims.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786534#Comment_121786534

As I said you really need to get out more and open your eyes.... you'll be surprised at all those religions buildings peppered around the country.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786602#Comment_121786602

So in other words it's just like all the other religions out there, or have you never met an evangelist of any type???? I went to a very unusual school back in the 60s - A mixed secondary school run by the Presentation Sisters and the Reverend Mother there believed it was important that we studied all seven religions - a dam pity there were not more like her.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336813/a-question-for-muslims

Not every Muslim country is a strict Islamic country.

Not every Muslim is a strict Muslim.

You would think you might know that, given the way Catholics practise their religion in this country. Or are Muslims just so different to every other person in the world?