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Rolex Purchase.

  • 01-02-2024 12:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Beef or Salmon


    Afternoon All,

    Milestone birthday this year the big 50, looking to purchase new Rolex for the 50th, any advice or where to start? Know not readily available, thanks for any help received.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Iguarantee


    I’d advise calling in to your nearest authorised dealer to see what you’d like to buy and gauge the availability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Very exciting.....best to start with figuring out the watch you want, maybe two options. From there contact the AD and see if they have availability although do not consider promises as certain to turn into an actual watch. If that is no good then the grey market (not AD's) will sell you any watch you wish tomorrow for a markup,, although this is not as large as it used to be on many models.


    Get back to us with the one you want and we can advise better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Excellent decision. Have you decided what model you’d like to buy? That will help to figure out your best route to purchase as some models are much trickier to get new than others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Beef or Salmon


    Have 10K to 15K to spend, nothing concrete yet mind. Thanks for above so far lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    That is a very healthy budget, not much you wont get with that money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Beef or Salmon


    Sub-mariner? Hard decide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    In my humble opinion, you cannot go wrong with a sub. Nice ceramic bezel one. BBlack is the classic, but you might push to a hulk or a new green bezel one. GMT is also an option, certainly a black one and likely a Batman or Batgirl. No date subs are the cheapest and a very classic look. You would also get a very tasty Datejust one with the fancy dial but its far more dressy than the sub.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Couple of things;

    1. You can't just walk in and pick what you want. Some (all) dealers have waiting lists which can be skipped if you are a big buyer (spending 100k maybe). This is especially true for the very popular models.
    2. The best watch dealer on the Island IMO is Keane's in Cork.
    3. If you cannot wait (I couldn't) you can look at Chrono24 and buy "aftermarket" watches... these are new watches purchased by someone from their friendly dealer and immediately resold at markup. Lots of the dealers advertising here are reliable and trustworthy, but do your own research.

    I work with a huge watch collector and he was unable to get a Milgauss through his "watch guy" and I went aftermarket, got it from a German dealer on Chrono24 and never regretted it for a moment. Just got Weirs in Dublin to add a link a few weeks later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭893bet


    “After market” as a word is one I associate with Franken/fake Rolex personally.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Best thing to do is go to an AD and try on a few pieces to see what you like most, but realistically it's very doubtful that you'll get a SS Submariner within the year.

    You should be able to get a Datejust or something like an explorer. Also the two tones are not as in demand so you could be lucky

    Having that amount of cash in the current market is in your favour IMO just be very up front and let them know you have the cash to spend by X date, what is realistic to get and if they can't help you'll go elsewhere. (Gray Market)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I would say a new customer looking for a submariner from weirs for a big birthday would get the watch very quickly but make sure to tell them why you want it.No harm mentioning the other half will want one next as well.

    Black sub date or Datejust fluted bezel and dial to your preference would be my suggestion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    A nice aftermarket iced out Hublot would go well with your collection



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    I would start by… not buying a Rolex..🤪

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭893bet


    Hard to look past the versatility of a submariner for the average person for a milestone birthday.

    Shocking price for what you get but the investment is 90 percent protected from a bailie retention in the short term and will grow worth inflation of the RRP. Jesus I almost have myself convinced to buy one.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd be another plus one on the Submariner. A true classic, with a deep history that looks the part in a suit or jeans and is built like a tank.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.





  • Unless you are already on good terms with the jeweller you need to accept that you will probably need to spend 20%+ of that budget with the jeweller on other products to get on good terms with them.


    Shop internationally, you could purchase it in Dubai and pay for the trip / holiday over to collect with the same budget



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Beef or Salmon


    Thanks for replies. Get cracking on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Yeah, but the downside is a short holiday in Dubai

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,282 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    2nd'd there is a world of difference between buying a grey market watch from a dealer and an "after market" watch.

    The latter is IMO always indicative of modification or non OEM work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    One here from a reputable Irish dealer, no date, 2017 his watches are always in as new condition. 2k over list price, probably the cheapest way in the long run. https://www.adverts.ie/sports/rolex-sub-ceramic-2017-no-date-mint/31802198



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,596 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I've never been one to be interested in a Rolex, but is this whole plámásing jewellers thing before you can buy one actually real?

    Are jewellers really short on friends and need to use their watch leverage to not feel lonely?

    Sorry I always just found this such a bizarre type of comment, particularly as it relates to people looking to spend a large chunk of change on a luxury item. Having to prove you 'deserve' to be sold one is fairly ridiculous. Sounds like a massive con.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    It's down to supply and demand.

    Most desirable Rolex can be sold above RRP easily, so the AD don't want to be just handing out watches to people who intend to flip them, They are looking to make a few quid from the customer before handing over potential few grand profit .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    It’s not just watches, it’s ladies handbags, it’s exotic cars, as said it’s supply and demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,596 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    So are they trying to make sure they're selling to people who won't flip immediately or are they trying to use the demand to make extra money by selling people things they don't want to 'let' them but a Rolex?

    Not sure why the AD cares if someone resells their product, they're operating a business selling things. Someone walking in and buying the product for the advertised value is the end game. What happens to the product after shouldn't really matter.

    Erring more towards ADs just taking advantage of people due to the demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    So are they trying to make sure they're selling to people who won't flip immediately or are they trying to use the demand to make extra money by selling people things they don't want to 'let' them but a Rolex?

    A bit of both.

    What happens to the product after shouldn't really matter.

    Agree should be nothing to do with them once they are paid and allocate on a genuine 1st person interest gets 1st watch and so on.

    Erring more towards ADs just taking advantage of people due to the demand.

    100% but most businesses do the same , Irish Hotels are worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    Only experienced this myself over the last few months .Designer handbag market makes Rolex ADs look professional .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Thankfully I haven’t first hand experience of that side, but I would imagine Hermes etc are very facilitating of allowing a customer to build up plenty of previous purchase history prior to allocating a Birken etc.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Yeah, it's a bit of both sides as said above. They are running a business, a repeat customer is worth much more to them than a once off, so they can use Rolex to build that customer relationship with both sides knowing they will get what they want in the long run.

    Conversely, if an AD just sells hard to get items on a first come basis then they won't retain the repeat business.

    Rolex have built a very recognised brand, they control the supply and therefore demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭893bet


    Trying to make people buy shite they can’t sell otherwise for its RRP.


    And they don’t want quick public flips as it makes them look bad in the eyes of Rolex.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    it's awful, luckily my mrs isn't into hermes (bags at least) and has all the chanels you could possibly need (as far as I can see 😁) but one of her friends is playing the hermes game, she wouldn't have the stomach for it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    I dont think s/s subs are freely available anywhere, or not at retail anyway.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    If you like a slightly larger watch a sea dweller 43 is a great option also, plus youll probably get one a bit quicker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭jefferson73


    Heathrow Terminal 5 Rolex. 3 SS skydwellers in stock. GmT everose gold available if you give them notice of 48 hours.

    Watches of Switzerland next door has limited stock across most of the brands, no white Speedmasters 😜 surprisingly enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭jefferson73


    I'm normally in terminal 2, the store was a little bit busier at the time so did not ask prices, will next time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 CatOfTheCanals


    Happy upcoming 50th! Choosing a Rolex for such a significant milestone is truly special. I remember when I hit my own big milestone and dreamt of celebrating with a Rolex Submariner. I scoured authorized dealers and even kept an eye on auctions, but ultimately, the timing wasn’t right financially. Now, with not quite the same budget to invest in luxury watches, I’ve found a great alternative in buying replicas from FeckOffFakerFuk. They offer models that are very similar to the originals.

    Post edited by Wibbs on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭893bet


    Hi hacked AI account



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    do the prices differ greatly by country? I travel a lot so maybe Ireland is not the place for me to shop watches?

    😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    You're more likely to have luck with your local dealer than a dealer foreign to you. Having said that, if your local dealer is something the likes of Amsterdam, forget it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    not sure I follow

    😎



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭20/20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    FeckOffFakerFuk

    This made me LOL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭rowantree18


    Going on lists to be allowed hand over your money.....

    I like nice things as much as the next person - but on this stuff I think I'll do a Groucho Marx: I wouldn't want to be in any club that would have me as a member......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    @20/20, You own this post:

    "Hi I was very drunk last night when I said €150.Now in the cold light of day I regret it. Its worth new close to €400.
    But I would still do a deal for €150 if interested.If you want to have a look and see what you think,Its a bargin."

    I'd stay away from asking what anyone is saying with such a post on your record ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭893bet


    art on your wrist? Hahahaha a Rolex.

    Either way poster is a bot or spam account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,282 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    They're also shilling fakes, reported them just now.



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