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February 2024 Boards weather forecast contest

  • 29-01-2024 11:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭


    1. Predict the "IMT" or Irish Mean Temperature which is the average for night and day at these five locations: Casement, Mullingar, Claremorris, Oak Park, and Shannon. (In February the normal IMT is 5.3 C). That is worth a maximum of 25 points. You lose one point per 0.1 deg error.
    2. Predict the MAX which is the highest reading at any of the 25 regular reporting stations on the met.ie website. Worth 20 points, same error.
    3. Predict the MIN, lowest reading, otherwise same idea. Worth 20 points, same error as the first two.
    4. Predict the PRC which is the rainfall plus liquid equivalent of any other types of precipitation, as a percentage of normal for the average at eleven locations in Ireland. Those are the five listed in 1 above, plus Malin Head, Belmullet, Ballyhaise, Johnstown Castle (in Wexford), Cork, and Valentia. (worth 15 points, you lose one point for each 3% error).
    5. Predict the SUN, hours of sunshine also as a percentage of normal, from stats gathered at six locations around Ireland (Casement, Dublin, Cork, Valentia, Shannon, Belmullet). The average duration of sunshine in February is about 2.4 hours a day, so if you think we might average 3.0 hours, predict 125% (etc). Worth 10 points and the score is reduced for each multiple of 5% error.
    6. BONUS for February __ Predict the maximum temperature on 14th Feb at Newport (10 points, scores are always by rank order regardless of whether the errors are big or small)

    Deadline as always 0300h of 1st Feb, late penalties 1 point per 4 ours to 1500h 2nd and 1 point per our afterwards.

    Will post forecasts for myself and NormaL in next two days; Newport's average ax would be around 10 C by 14t .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Tazio


    Tazio_____________6.2 _ 16.0 _ -3.5 _ 80 _ 117 ____ 10.5




    PS thank again for running these - good fun!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Gonzo_____________6.8 _ 16.4 _ -4.2 _ 95 _ 110 ____ 11.3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,738 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sryanbruen_____________5.5 _ 16.2 _ -6.8 _ 90 _ 100 ____ 3.9

    Photography site - https://sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Bsal_____________5.7 _ 17.0 _ -5.5 _ 80 _ 101 ____ 9.0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭esposito


    Esposito_____________5.2_ 15.9_ -8.2_ 85_ 110____ 4.2

    Post edited by esposito on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭sunflower3


    Sunflower3_____________5.9 _ 16.8 _ -7.1 _ 85 _ 95 ____ 11.5



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Artane2002_____________6.3 _ 16.4 _ -5.2 _ 80 _ 100 ____ 4.6



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,447 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    DOCARCH _____________5.7 _ 17.2 _ -4.7 _ 95 _ 110 ____ 11.2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭kindredspirit


    Kindred Spirit ___ 6.0 ___ 16.6 ___ -4.6 ___ 85 ___ 110 ___ 10.0°



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Joe Public _____________5.1 _ 16.1 _ -8.7 _ 95 _ 105 ____ 4.1



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (410ft asl)


    WolfeEire_____________6.1 _ 16.4 _ -5.6 _ 77 _ 115 ____ 7.2

    www.x.com/wolfeeire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Cornerstonelad


    Cornerstonelad_______4.9_________15.9______-6.4______80.1_____129______3.6



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Mr stonewall_____5.9____14.9___-6.5___83_____115___12.3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    M.T. Cranium ___________ 7.1 _ 16.3 _ -4.7 _ 184 _ 105 _ 10.8

    NormaL _______________ 5.3 _ 15.8 _ -6.5 _ 100 _ 100 _ 10.2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    johnmac__________5.8 _ 16.5 _ -4.7 _ 86 _ 107 ____ 9.6



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Tae laidir _______________ 6.4 _ 15.8 _ -6.8 _ 88 _ 114 _ 8.3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭dasa29


    Dasa29 _____________5.5 _ 17.5 _ -5.0 _ 110 _ 110 ____ 10.5



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭waterways


    waterways _______________ 5.8 _ 16.2 _ -5.4 _ 104 _ 98 _ 8.9



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Appledrop __6.2___16.1__-5.2__85__110__9.8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭rameire


    Rameire_____________5.8 _ 16.9 _ -7.0 _ 88 _ 92 ____ 10.5

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Dacogawa_____________6.6 _ 15.4 _ -5.5 _ 86 _ 105 __ 10.0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Jpmarn _______________ 5.1 _ 15.3 _ -6.8 _ 85 _ 120 _ 6.8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Pauldry __6.5___16.5__-5.5__85__105__9.5



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭pauldry




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭adam240610


    Adam240610_______________ 7.0 _ 16.8 _ -6.5 _ 90 _ 90 _ 10.2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭mrskinner


    Skinner____6.5____15.7____-4.3____99____111____11



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium



    __ Table of forecasts for February 2024 __


    FORECASTER _____________ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN ___ Max 14th Newport

    M.T. Cranium ______________7.1 _ 16.3 _ -4.7 _ 184 _ 105 ___ 10.8

    Adam240610 ______________7.0 _ 16.8 _ -6.5 _ 090 _ 090 ___ 10.2

    Gonzo ___________________ 6.8 _ 16.4 _ -4.2 _ 095 _ 110 ___ 11.3

    Dacogawa_________________6.6 _ 15.4 _ -5.5 _ 086 _ 105 ___ 10.0

    Pauldry __________________ 6.5 _ 16.5 _ -5.5 _ 085 _ 105 ____ 9.5

    MrSkinner ________________ 6.5 _ 15.7 _ -4.3 _ 099 _ 111 ___ 11.0

    Tae laidir _________________ 6.4 _ 15.8 _ -6.8 _ 088 _ 114 ____ 8.3

    Artane2002 _______________6.3 _ 16.4 _ -5.2 _ 080 _ 100 ____ 4.6

    Appledrop ________________ 6.2 _ 16.1 _ -5.2 _ 085 _ 110 ____ 9.8

    Tazio ____________________ 6.2 _ 16.0 _ -3.5 _ 080 _ 117 ___ 10.5

    WolfeEire _________________6.1 _ 16.4 _ -5.6 _ 077 _ 115 ____ 7.2

    Kindred Spirit _____________ 6.0 _ 16.6 _ -4.6 _ 085 _ 110 ___ 10.0

    ___ Con Sensus ___________ 5.9 _ 16.3 _ -5.5 _ 086 _ 110 ___ 10.0

    Sunflower3 _______________ 5.9 _ 16.8 _ -7.1 _ 085 _ 095 ___ 11.5

    Mr stonewall ______________ 5.9 _ 14.9 _ -6.5 _ 083 _ 115 ___ 12.3

    Rameire ________________ 5.8 _ 16.9 _ -7.0 _ 088 _ 092 ___ 10.5

    johnmac _________________ 5.8 _ 16.5 _ -4.7 _ 086 _ 107 ____ 9.6

    waterways ________________5.8 _ 16.2 _ -5.4 _ 104 _ 098 ____ 8.9

    DOCARCH ________________ 5.7 _ 17.2 _ -4.7 _ 095 _ 110 ___ 11.2

    Bsal______________________5.7 _ 17.0 _ -5.5 _ 080 _ 101 ____ 9.0

    Dasa29 __________________ 5.5 _ 17.5 _ -5.0 _ 110 _ 110 ___ 10.5

    sryanbruen _______________ 5.5 _ 16.2 _ -6.8 _ 090 _ 100 ____ 3.9

    ___ NormaL ______________ 5.3 _ 15.8 _ -6.5 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 10.2

    Esposito __________________5.2 _ 15.9 _ -8.2 _ 085 _ 110 ____ 4.2

    Joe Public ________________ 5.1 _ 16.1 _ -8.7 _ 095 _ 105 ____ 4.1

    Jpmarn __________________ 5.1 _ 15.3 _ -6.8 _ 085 _ 120 ____ 6.8

    Cornerstonelad ____________ 4.9 _ 15.9 _ -6.4 _ 080 _ 129 ____ 3.6

    ___________________________________

    25 forecasts, consensus is 13th ranked.

    Looks like I am "odd man out" on PRC, second highest forecast is 110%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Moore Park 14.1 yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Moore Park 14.7 yesterday.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Looks like Mt. Dillon is our lowest so far at only -1.0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After first week ...

    IMT _ 8.2 C (3.0 above normal)

    MAX _ 14.7

    MIN _ -1.0

    PRC _ 83% of normal

    SUN _ 39.3% of normal

    Max 14th Newport __ GFS shows 10 C for this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Rain gone above normal after today I'd imagine. Sun has taken a holiday since January. In Sligo I'd say wev only had 7 or 8 hours since January and a full 0 today on day 8.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I may be holding a big hammer for PRC but so far projections fall between the wide goalposts of my forecast (184%) and second highest 110% (dasa29). The midpoint of that large gap is 147%. If that were the outcome, raw scores would all be 3 or less. I may need to ask around how to score this if we end up in that zone, probably some kind of cap on top progression level of 10/15 would be fair to everyone. The hammer only falls between 177 and 191, otherwise it's just the standard boost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Looks like we could all be in trouble for IMT and MIN as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭pauldry


    14c on the 14th is not out of the question. A low scoring month looks likely for most.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    It's a leap year so the agony will be dragged out longer 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Aha! That's why MT went for 184percent rain. There's a flood coming Feb 29th!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭appledrop


    I think most of us did OK last month, so this month will be pay back with nil points😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (410ft asl)


    Me looking at MTC's precip forecast on February 1st and then seeing the precip accumulation charts for the next two weeks today


    www.x.com/wolfeeire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Moore Park -2.2 yesterday.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Newport hovering around 11.

    Another high score for MT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭pauldry


    11.3c I think was max from WOW or 11.4c



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Scoring for Bonus Max 14th Newport (11.4 C)

    and f.y.i., scoring for MIN if result is -3.2 or above (-3.5 is our high forecast; full minimum progression would apply at an outcome of -3.2 or higher as top raw score will be less than 18. If result is 3.3 to 3.7, we get a hammer from Tazio (reduced boosts), but it won't be severe because of the spread of forecasts vs min progression. If we see a reading below -3.7 this discussion is irrelevant, scoring will probably go closer to raw scores.

    I have left in the other categories but no scoring suggestions yet. At the rate things are going, could require minimum progression on PRC and once again a hammer situation would only apply if outcome is 177-191 (to get a raw score of 13-15).


    FORECASTER _____________ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _score_PRC _ SUN ___ Max 14th Newport

    __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ error ___ score

    M.T. Cranium ______________7.1 _ 16.3 _ -4.7 _ 16 _ 184 _ 105 ___ 10.8 ____-0.6 ____ 9

    Adam240610 ______________7.0 _ 16.8 _ -6.5 _ 07 _ 090 _ 090 ___ 10.2 ____-1.2 ____ 8

    Gonzo ___________________ 6.8 _ 16.4 _ -4.2 _ 19 _ 095 _ 110 ___ 11.3 ____-0.1 ___ 10

    Dacogawa_________________6.6 _ 15.4 _ -5.5 _ 10 _ 086 _ 105 ___ 10.0 ____-1.4 ____ 7

    Pauldry __________________ 6.5 _ 16.5 _ -5.5 _ 10 _ 085 _ 105 ____ 9.5 ____-1.9 ____ 6

    MrSkinner ________________ 6.5 _ 15.7 _ -4.3 _ 18 _ 099 _ 111 ___ 11.0 ____-0.4 ___ 10

    Tae laidir _________________ 6.4 _ 15.8 _ -6.8 _ 06 _ 088 _ 114 ____ 8.3 ____-3.1 ____ 4

    Artane2002 _______________6.3 _ 16.4 _ -5.2 _ 13 _ 080 _ 100 ____ 4.6 ____-6.8 ____ 2

    Appledrop ________________ 6.2 _ 16.1 _ -5.2 _ 13 _ 085 _ 110 ____ 9.8 ____-1.6 ____ 7

    Tazio ____________________ 6.2 _ 16.0 _ -3.5 _ 20 _ 080 _ 117 ___ 10.5 ____-0.9 ____ 9

    WolfeEire _________________6.1 _ 16.4 _ -5.6 _ 09 _ 077 _ 115 ____ 7.2 ____-4.2 ____ 3

    Kindred Spirit _____________ 6.0 _ 16.6 _ -4.6 _ 17 _ 085 _ 110 ___ 10.0 ____-1.4 ____ 7

    ___ Con Sensus ___________ 5.9 _ 16.3 _ -5.5 _ 10 _ 086 _ 110 ___ 10.0 ____-1.4 ____ 7

    Sunflower3 _______________ 5.9 _ 16.8 _ -7.1 _ 04 _ 085 _ 095 ___ 11.5 ____+0.1 ___ 10

    Mr stonewall ______________ 5.9 _ 14.9 _ -6.5 _ 07 _ 083 _ 115 ___ 12.3 ____+0.9 ____ 9

    Rameire ________________ 5.8 _ 16.9 _ -7.0 _ 05 _ 088 _ 092 ___ 10.5 ____-0.9 ____ 9

    johnmac _________________ 5.8 _ 16.5 _ -4.7 _ 16 _ 086 _ 107 ____ 9.6 ____-1.8 ____ 6

    waterways ________________5.8 _ 16.2 _ -5.4 _ 11 _ 104 _ 098 ____ 8.9 ____-2.5 ____ 5

    DOCARCH ________________ 5.7 _ 17.2 _ -4.7 _ 16 _ 095 _ 110 ___ 11.2 ____-0.2 ___ 10

    Bsal______________________5.7 _ 17.0 _ -5.5 _ 10 _ 080 _ 101 ____ 9.0 ____-2.4 ____ 5

    Dasa29 __________________ 5.5 _ 17.5 _ -5.0 _ 14 _ 110 _ 110 ___ 10.5 ____-0.9 ____ 9

    sryanbruen _______________ 5.5 _ 16.2 _ -6.8 _ 06 _ 090 _ 100 ____ 3.9 ____-7.5 ____ 1

    ___ NormaL ______________ 5.3 _ 15.8 _ -6.5 _ 07 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 10.2 ____-1.2 ____ 8

    Esposito __________________5.2 _ 15.9 _ -8.2 _ 04 _ 085 _ 110 ____ 4.2 ____-7.2 ____ 2

    Joe Public ________________ 5.1 _ 16.1 _ -8.7 _ 03 _ 095 _ 105 ____ 4.1 ____-7.3 ____ 2

    Jpmarn __________________ 5.1 _ 15.3 _ -6.8 _ 07 _ 085 _ 120 ____ 6.8 ____-4.6 ____ 3

    Cornerstonelad ____________ 4.9 _ 15.9 _ -6.4 _ 09 _ 080 _ 129 ____ 3.6 ____-7.8 ____ 1

    ___________________________________

    Only two forecasts were above the outcome, and not by very much. Back later with a week two update.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,447 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    11.4c max. confirmed for Newport yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After two weeks ...

    IMT _ 7.3 C (2.0 above normal) second week average 6.4 C (1.0 above).

    MAX _ 14.7

    MIN _ -2.2

    PRC _ 142% of normal, second week wet (201%).

    SUN _ 66.5% of normal, second week near average (93.7%).

    Max 14th Newport __ 11.4 C __ scored in a separate post above

    Quite a variety on current guidance, IMT will probably rise to 8 or above before dropping back; PRC does look fairly solid but I suspect it will end up in a big gap between 110 and 184. SUN is bound to improve but will be struggling to get past 80%.

    In scoring post for bonus, I also ran minimum progression on MIN but we may not need it, if it drops below -4.5 we probably won't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After three weeks ...

    IMT _ 8.2 C (2.8 above normal) third week average a very high 10.1 C (4.5 above).

    MAX _ 14.7

    MIN _ -2.2

    PRC _ 140% of normal, third week 138%.

    SUN _ 75% of normal, third week est 90% (Cork data not available, but est 100%).

    Max 14th Newport __ 11.4 C __ scored in a separate post earlier

    Colder on current guidance, IMT will probably drop to around 7.2 by end of Feb, PRC still looks like it will end up in a big gap between forecasts of 110 and 184 per cent, it could fall back a bit after today keeps it close to 140%. SUN is bound to improve and will eventually get past 80%.

    In scoring post for bonus, I also ran minimum progression on MIN but we may not need it, if it drops below -4.5 we probably won't. Not likely to do so but Tuesday 27 Feb was looking frosty on guidance; MAX is surprisingly low considering the current IMT, but we're probably done now.

    Over in Britain the CET was last reported at 8.7 C and the record is 7.9 (way back in 1779), also the past week's average of 10.7 there is an all-time high value for February.

    I suppose with it being a leap year I can post a fourth week report a day before it's all done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Counting today's reported rainfalls the PRC will end up just about in the centre of the large gap in forecasts (centre being 147%), possibly a bit lower (I have it at 132% now). I don't see any chance of it getting close to 184% but in any case, will score from minimum progression using 13/15 as top score as a slight nod to our generally inaccurate group performance. The IMT will also need to be scored from minimum progression as it will be 7.6 or thereabouts (it was 7.66 after 27 days, would likely be 7.70 after 28 and could drop a bit after 29th). In that case I will start from 24/25 and to be fair to all I will just score the forecasts as if 7.2 was the outcome, that will eliminate any odd effects of the rank ordering. A fourth week report will happen tomorrow and I may also post preliminary scoring then because we won't get a monthly summary until 4th (assuming it's not a bank holiday on 4th).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After four weeks ...

    IMT _ 7.7 C (2.5 above normal) fourth week average 6.0 C (0.1 above). Likely 7.6 finish.

    MAX _ 14.7

    MIN _ -2.2

    PRC _ 142% of normal, fourth week 126%. (after today likely 140%)

    SUN _ 85% of normal, fourth week 113%

    Max 14th Newport __ 11.4 C __ scored in a separate post earlier



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,740 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT 7.6 and PRC 142% calculated, SUN in 85-90 range, will see MS on 4 Mar to verify actuals.

    Early unofficial scoring later today if I can get to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Remarkably poor forecasting this month.

    IMT. 0 above, 25 below actual.

    MAX. 25 above, 0 below actual.

    MIN. 0 above, 25 below actual.

    PRC. 1 (MTC) above, 24 below.

    SUN. (85-90), say 88, 25 above, 0 below.



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