The US and the UK strike Houti targets in Yemen overnight. Good or bad?

fire_man

The Houti's had plenty of warning.Were they expecting to get away with their actions in the red sea?

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121609817#Comment_121609817

I hate that. Fecking houtis. Who do they think they are? Disrupting our shopping habits lol.

Tazz T

Anybody else think it strange that the houthis complain about attack on Yemen, yet the official Yemeni gov seem happy enough for the capital and international airport to be bombed - same way the official syrian government seem to be cool that Damascus international airport has been out of commission since october due to ongoing strikes by the israeli airforce, yet only the Hezbollah seem miffed.

Or is it that the 'official governments' of both countries are just US-backed puppets?

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607063#Comment_121607063

But hopefully there will be fewer of them to do it after each strike.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610498#Comment_121610498

I hear Iran is US-backed puppet too, you should go read up on that one; toe-curling.

weisses

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610248#Comment_121610248

you forgot to add Russia

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121609774#Comment_121609774

When was Trump president again?

But carry on thinking Trump was what you think he was, no amount of evidence will sway you.

The international efforts to stop Somali pirates through use of force worked.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121606995#Comment_121606995

Trump's not president anymore at the minute.

Fixed that for you. MAGAAA

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610498#Comment_121610498

Over the course of the conflict between the government and the rebels in Yemen, there was a little bit of debate within the US over which side it was more beneficial to back. It wasn't 100% definitive clear cut. They were seen as potentially a deterrence to Al Quaida in the region. The Iranian links would have swung opinion against them ultimately anyway eventually. But at the time, the thinking would have been along the line of "let them do their thing there and we'll stay out of it"

quokula

From the point of view of the houthis they were basically applying economic sanctions to the supporters and enablers of the ongoing genocide. Not a single person was killed or seriously hurt in the Houthi attacks - they detained a ship and did some property damage to others. They sent some drones towards military ships that hadn’t a hope in hell of doing damage but the purpose wasn’t to hit them, it was to get those ships to waste million dollar missiles on drones that cost a few thousand.

The crew of a detained ship is still in the Yemen. They’ve had contact with their families and the owners of the ship reported that they are being treated well as guests and repatriation plans were in the final stages a few days ago, though this bombing has probably made that more difficult.

So if you take away the names, ultimately you have:

Group A, largely supported by group B, committing an ongoing genocide including the mass murder of children, journalists, humanitarian workers etc

Group C makes a statement that they’re going to disrupt supporters of group A as long as the genocide continues, and proceed to take actions that cause economic difficulties for group B, without physically hurting anyone in the process.

Group B responds by dropping a ton of bombs on group C killing a bunch of people, albeit showing restraint compared to Group A’s behaviour, but murdering a bunch of people in retaliation for property damage and economic pain that was only carried out in order to try and push back against the genocide of their neighbours still seems quite disproportionate to me.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610248#Comment_121610248

Not true at all .....

One single post mentioned Palestinians ,

One ,

Two Posts mentioned the attack on October 7th another on Israel being the only sane and stable country in the region.

That two ......

Across three pages

So that says your telling porkies what's next Russia

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610306#Comment_121610306

True but overall Israel is the most stable democracy in the region, the rest are nothing but death cult's masquerading as modern countries not stuck in mediaeval times

Danzy

They weren't left a choice, nor are the houthis and Iran leaving them a choice about further rounds of retaliatory strikes against houthis offensive infrastructure and probably Iran itself.

A lot of people look at the Houthis motto of death to America, death to Israel, death to all Jews, their support of Palestine. Their uncompromising belief that gays must be killed, their ultra repressive control of women and it strikes a chord with them, they are another Hamas group as far as they are concerned.

The houthis aren't going to stop either, their cheap drones are being shot down by missiles costing close on a million. Never mind the costs to station ships there, running down supplies, budgets and focus that could be directed to opposing Russia. Who is strongly supported among Palestinians, Houthis and Iranians and their supporters in the West.

They can threaten to upend the global economy, advance their theocratic dark age societies over others and do it for very little.

This is what comes from not treating Iran as the serious threat it is for decades now.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610498#Comment_121610498

The houthis are a small portion of Yemeni society that have conquered most of Yemen through use of Iranian arms. The official Yemen govt and their families would be facing the rope if caught by the houthis

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610731#Comment_121610731

Most ships targeted by the houthis had nothing to do with Israel.

Economically it is going to make much difference to them.

It's much more about hitting countries. Like Egypt, India, Arabia, driving oil up to cause recession globally and this inconvenience the West.

Prior to a few months ago. The Yemenis never even gave a single Palestinian a pot to pee in. They are not concerned all of a sudden, there are much bigger things at stake than a small war 2000kms North of them.

ejmaztec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610865#Comment_121610865

Yes, the Houthis are doing what their benefactors in Tehran are telling them to do. They're probably offering them a big bonus for their efforts.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610731#Comment_121610731

That's some pro terrorist way of thinking,it's alright lads it's one death cult launching attacks in support of another deal cult , under orders from The other death cult,

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611264#Comment_121611264

People like him see the Houthis, Hamas, Iran as the cutting edge against, as one Pro Palestinian activist put it the Jewish and homo financiers of American capitalism.

It's a nihilist world view where the more extreme the opponent of western mores and societies, the better.

I think they are on to a winner here, they can turn the Red Sea in to a semi permanent war zone and the implications of that are going to be very profound.

It's much bigger than the spat in Gaza.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610753#Comment_121610753

incorrect, israel is neither stable or a real democracy.

it is more or less the exact same as the other "death cults" as you call them, in that part of the world.

only real difference is it's state religion.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610822#Comment_121610822

accept iran has been treated as the threat it is claimed it is for decades and yet it is still getting what it wants.

there will be no large scale strikes on iran, that ends very very badly and quite rightly so.

the odd strike from terrorist genocidal israel is all that will happen and the iranians just put that down as a cost of doing business.

nacho libre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611649#Comment_121611649

Yes. The only way I see Iran being attacked directly is if Israel decide to strike an Iranian nuclear facility. Israel will do that and worry about the consequences later if it believes Iran is building a bomb. Even if Israel does do it, Iran won't respond directly. Some posters like to indulge in propaganda but the reality is Iran act rationally on the international stage. They will push it a bit through their proxies to see what they can get away with, but they won't go too far.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611613#Comment_121611613

No not true at all

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610731#Comment_121610731

Just to be clear.... according to your post

1) Attempted murder is fine, if you are incompetent, unlucky, or the guys you're shooting at are good at defending themselves.

2) Kidnapping is also quite acceptable, as long as you're nice to the kidnappees and let them call home on occasion.

Fortunately most societies aren't entirely on board with those concepts.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611840#Comment_121611840

@Manic Moran what's your take on the missing servicemen, some suggestions it might have been two seals who got onto difficulties in bad weather

brickster69

Germans now joining the coalition to prevent the Houthi's from stopping the Israeli's from committing genocide.

https://twitter.com/RandyHiggins757/status/1746154971718955385

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121612144#Comment_121612144

Why lie ..

This has nothing to do with Israel

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121612120#Comment_121612120

I am aware that two are missing, but I've not even read the articles beyond the headlines.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121612416#Comment_121612416

According to some the houtitis fired missiles at and badly damaged the USS liberty,

As a historian you might smile at that one

ceadaoin.

Wow, there are actually people cheering on a group who use child soldiers, reintroduced slavery and chant death to Jews? They aren't noble freedom fighters. Surely if you care about dead children in Gaza then you should have a problem with the houthis who traffick children and send them to die in battle?

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121612715#Comment_121612715

Yeah they think anyone who hates the US and Israel are hero's