The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957868#Comment_122957868

Surely you can disagree with Peter's viewpoint without resorting to ad hominem attacks.

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957868#Comment_122957868

Aside from the vulgarity of your post you’re clearly mistaking me for someone else.

My own career in radio? I’ve never worked in radio, or tv, or any other form of media. I don’t know who you think I am, but I’m not that person.

Of course anyone who dislikes Tubridy has mental health issues. 🙄 you forgot to include your usual tropes that they’re also unemployed, alcoholics, divorced, live in their mother’s basement, see their kids (who hate them) once a month, loners, losers etc.

Classy post though, says more about you than anything else.

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957906#Comment_122957906

No Brian, they can’t. Attack the poster is always the way.

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957916#Comment_122957916

lol, ok Bobson.
“Be kind” he says after his original post. 🤣There’s lacking self-awareness and there’s that.

Peter Dragon

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RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957861#Comment_122957861

I think over all it looks bad. Eoghan left politics because he got a better job elsewhere while he was Minister for Housing during a time of a housing crisis.

I wouldn't line Tubs up with Murphy per se, but the connections of the Murphy family and the Tubridy family aren't to be totally dismissed. IMO so called diplomats in the Embassy should have turned around and said,

"Look this seems political, and its not old history that we are talking about, also even if we agree that Tubs has served is time following the RTÉ scandal, many in the public may not be happy with an event hosted by him talking to a former Housing Minister and politician, and that's not to mention Mr. Murphy's Grandfather, and while we may not link him to his Grandfather's business there are plenty that still remember him (or have heard of him) as an Accountant to the "stars"."

IMO while I think the embassy should host book launches and other cultural activities, I think they should be a little more careful as to what they are supporting.

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122957868#Comment_122957868

Mmmmmhhh....this rereg poster sounds oddly familiar.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122960508#Comment_122960508

It's like someone obsessed with derailing this thread in particular, as if they had some personal stake in the topic.

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122960508#Comment_122960508

My reply provides a subtle hint as to his alleged identities (plural).

I’ll probably be reported now for assuming his gender, even though everyone knows who it is.. 🙄

Brian Scan

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Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122958954#Comment_122958954

Not sure why you quoted my post as you haven't made any attempt to address the point I raised.

Brian Scan

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Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122960849#Comment_122960849

To be fair I think he has.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122961316#Comment_122961316

"I think over all it looks bad. Eoghan left politics because he got a better job elsewhere while he was Minister for Housing during a time of a housing crisis.

I wouldn't line Tubs up with Murphy per se, but the connections of the Murphy family and the Tubridy family aren't to be totally dismissed. IMO so called diplomats in the Embassy should have turned around and said,

"Look this seems political, and its not old history that we are talking about, also even if we agree that Tubs has served is time following the RTÉ scandal, many in the public may not be happy with an event hosted by him talking to a former Housing Minister and politician, and that's not to mention Mr. Murphy's Grandfather, and while we may not link him to his Grandfather's business there are plenty that still remember him (or have heard of him) as an Accountant to the "stars"."

IMO while I think the embassy should host book launches and other cultural activities, I think they should be a little more careful as to what they are supporting."

Could you highlight the part of his post that you think addresses my point as to why Tubridy should hold Murphy accountable for what Murphy's grandfather did to Gay Byrne?

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122961373#Comment_122961373

No, sorry, I’m too busy.

Just because he didn’t give you the answer you clearly want doesn’t mean he hasn’t addressed the topic - which in my opinion he has.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122961429#Comment_122961429

No surprise there.

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122961462#Comment_122961462

I don’t have the time to forensically analyse each sentence for you and I’m not going to get into an argument Brian but he clearly addressed the topic, at relative length and depth. As I said, it may not be the response you desire, but he had addressed the topic.

If you disagree please tell us why.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122961476#Comment_122961476

No, sorry, I'm too busy.

RoTelly

@Brian Scan

You asked why @Peter Dragon thinks that "Tubridy should hold Eoghan Murphy accountable for what Murphy's grandfather did to Gay Byrne."

I answered as best as I could pointing out that it does not look good for the Embassy for a variety of reasons.

IMO Tubs basically walks into doors. He supposedly idolized Gay Byrne and his time as Ireland's Greatest broadcaster but he finds time to also think that a former Minister, who left his job as soon as he had a better one, is a great person to support as he launches his new book explaining why he "ran from office", this is on top of the grandfather's accounting practice that lost Mr. Byrne millions.

Tubs is consistently out of the loop when it comes to things he should be supporting as a good school boy. His fascination with JK Rowling's Detective novels is a good example, did he not get the memo? I don't think he is being brave, he's just clueless.

Tubs just goes to things hoping for the best.

Peter Dragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122961892#Comment_122961892

This and your former post do seem to address the topic alright.👍

nonetheless

Not arguing with Brian on this but my thoughts on it are if Ryan had held Gay Byrne in such high esteem, he should think of his own appearance at that book launch as being somewhat inappropriate given his relationship with Gay Byrne and a somewhat conflict of interest of sorts (as Ryan would say) even if Eoghan Murphy had nothing to do with what happened between his grandfather and Gay Byrne back in the day. Such qualities as loyalty spring to mind for people to which we still hold dear but may have passed on but unfortunately with Tubridy his first priority seems to really be about generating publicity for his brand as The Book Man and of course the next associated invoice.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122962029#Comment_122962029

I don't really see how Tubridy's part in Murphy's book launch showed any lack of loyalty to Byrne. Eoghan Murphy, who was four when his grandfather died, had nothing to with the theft of Byrne's money, and I'm not aware of his ever having defended Russell Murphy's actions.

A previous poster also pointed out that Tubridy's grandfather, as Chairman of the RTE Authority, had tried to get Gay Byrne sacked. This did not stop Byrne from becoming friendly with Tubridy, so perhaps Tubridy, in taking part in the launch of Murphy's book, was just following Byrne's example in not blaming the grandson for the sins of the grandfather.

mountain

Tubridy first question was,

Will I get paid?

2nd question,
how much?

nonetheless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122962087#Comment_122962087

Agreed you could well be right. Although attempting to get one sacked to actually stealing one's money take different places on the intensity shelf imo. As it was an attempt on Tubridy's grandfather's part I think it would have been easier for Gay Byrne to put that kind of thing behind him given that he himself had become such a household name, a power within RTE and a massive revenue generator for them. Just to be clear I am not a huge Gay Byrne fan and I believe you are correct that he may have seen it as an opportunity to illustrate his own professionalism to welcome and support the grandson of the person who tried to end his time at RTE.

However, In the case of Eoghan Murphy's grandfather - damage was done to Gay Byne on a financial level. I am sure the late GB's family and friends (Ryan included) would have had their own thoughts and feelings in that regard and it is always possible to let water go under the bridge. Although I believe that those events of the past have nothing to do with Eoghan Murphy, taking into consideration Gay Byrne and his family's view of that whole debacle, personally if it was me I would regretfully decline taking part in such an event purely as to the memory of my dear friend and mentor.

rightmove

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122962094#Comment_122962094

Only reason he took the willow warm gig was that he was told he'd be setting fire to the logs. 😁

Hyperbollix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122962451#Comment_122962451

I'd do the same.

Beyond the fact I think he was a showpony lightweight politician who was purely in it for self serving reasons, I'd have no problem with Eoghan Murphy and certainly wouldn't hold his grandfather's actions against him. That doesn't mean, that If I was Ryan Tubridy, I'd be rushing to do his book launch. It just feels "off". There are a million things Tubridy can do in the MC/host realm and yucking it up with the posterboy for Fine Gael superficial politics who happens to be a close relative of a man who robbed the life savings of a national treasure, and your own mentor - It's just a bad look.

Of course, such thoughts wouldn't even enter the empty vessel that is Tub's noggin. It's just another chance to get some diary fodder and rub shoulders with the Irish elite.

Peter Dragon

It’s a terribly bad look imo.

One could say no to such a gig without it being a slight aimed at the grandson of someone else. Both things can occur without one affecting the other.

By way of example earlier this year I was approached by a headhunting firm based in London about a job that would pay me a multiple of my current salary - for context I’d be in the bracket of what is known in these quarters as “Bobson Dugnutt money”, so a multiple of this would not be something to immediately turn one’s nose up at. This job was based in another country where secure (this will be relevant later) accommodation would be provided, security for my family, X number of return flights home per year, private schooling, car, bonus….you name it. The catch? The country was Israel, and the industry was loosely termed, and I quote “technology, in the broad security area”. I didn’t need any further details, nor did I hesitate to say no on a number of grounds. There’s more to life than money after all.

It seems Ryan just doesn’t know how to say “no”, nor has he fully realised that money sometimes comes at a cost.

pc7

mod note

Read the charter, report posts you have issues with, no snarking at each other

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122964496#Comment_122964496

TYFYS.

leath_dub

Wrong thread