The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

mrsdewinter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122052766#Comment_122052766

While I'm loath to take on the duties of back-seat booker, I wish Tubs would use his platform to promote writers with lower profiles. In the vein of thriller writers, the likes of, say, Catherine Ryan Howard or Erin Kelly may not have the star power of Walliams and Ahern, but they must be prodigious readers and would no doubt have useful contributions to make. Or is the concept of the pod just 'famous people - they read!'

podgeandrodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053133#Comment_122053133

I suspect that, this being Tubs, it's more about the star power of who he interviews, and how it reflects on his ability to get good guests, than his worrying about getting interesting people on to recommend good books.

hawley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053133#Comment_122053133

It's going to continue being a celebfest. Tubridy is obsessed with celebrity, he still sees himself as one. There's no substance to him, so will be just about getting big names on and getting the highest amount of clicks as possible. Every interview or article he writes is always littered with references to celebs. Thinks of himself as a higher being.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053290#Comment_122053290

Not sure that it is that kind of podcast. It seems to be a generic book tour podcast based on the episodes so far. That means that authors who sell well will be the obvious choices as guests.

Regards…jmcc

HildaOgdenx

They are safe as well, the big names, he knows they will chat without him having to do very much.

He couldn't cope with someone who might turn out to be very quiet or a bit unpredictable or whatever. He is such a poor interviewer, it's hard to believe that he got away with it all for so long.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053133#Comment_122053133

It seems more about book sales than celebrity. Both of the most recent guests sell well in Tubridy's target demographics and are authors of fast selling books. The interesting thing to note will be if it will be mainly HarperCollins authors who are showcased on the podcast. Don't think that this will be quite a mini-LLS as that would be bad for sponsorship.

Regards…jmcc

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122052957#Comment_122052957

JNLR are too secretive, though you could FoI RTÉ for a full list of figures.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053743#Comment_122053743

RTÉ would not be required to give out other stations figures, though - and he's not on RTÉ anymore!

Someone will probably be able to find the Q102 figure at least I guess. And if it is actually up, all the stations will be shouting about it, so you can draw some inferences from what does and more importantly doesn't get said.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053751#Comment_122053751

Q102 would highlight the positives, if there are any.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053751#Comment_122053751

I mean RTÉ's own figures. At least we can FoI them.

Q102 will as @yagan says only highlight the positives, they will spin not giving the Tubs figures if they are down by saying they have seen a big increase on listeners tuning in on their smart speakers since his arrival!

TheBMG

these figures won’t be particularly important for Tubbs/Q. It’s a 12 month book and he’s only been on for 3 months.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122054446#Comment_122054446

Yeah that will be an excuse also. But I did say when this all started that neither Irish or UK radio will have a full idea of how tubs is doing for 12 months. And the excuse will be your not comparing like with like or something.

Morgans

Listened to Cecilia Ahern. Sure it's grand. Maybe of interest to some but not quite sure who.

Ryan again makes no comments or has any questions that someone interested in books would ask or pushes to reveal a love of books. In fact, uses all his times to talk about anything else. Guess the sponsors mean they have to go through the motions.

One thing that was funny. To prevent the revealing of spoilers, Ryan told his audience to turn off and come back in a few minutes. Not quite sure how that would work on Youtube or Spotify.

I don't know who finds this good.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122057283#Comment_122057283

"I don't know who finds this good."

Bobson probably does.

yagan

Was in an Eason's trying to spend a voucher which is really difficult if you like a good read. Heard the horrible Tubs ad on the shop tannoy, I asked at the till why was he on and they replied in unison that it's dreadful, they had no say in it and have to listen to it all day long.

thesandeman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122057465#Comment_122057465

🤣🤣 I'm getting to like you.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122058009#Comment_122058009

I'll probably ruin it 🤣

Brian Scan

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Hyperbollix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122053133#Comment_122053133

That's not Tub's MO. He is only about celebrity, fawning to them, massaging their ego, trying to appear as one of them. It's funny when you think how antithetical that is to the philosophy of the Late Late under Gay Byrne and Pat Kenny, which always made every effort to promote new artists in various fields.

Tub has zero interest in writers, the craft of writing or talking about the issues covered in any given book. It's all just a very obvious vehicle for him to have a career and to rub shoulders with the rich and famous. Looks at his diary. It's a weekly dose (and I mean dose) of "This week, I have been mostly meeting………..(insert celeb name drop)

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122061236#Comment_122061236

It's a weekly dose (and I mean dose) of "This week, I have been mostly meeting………..(insert celeb name drop)

And if any of these celebrities we're lucky enough to avoid meeting Tubridy last week, he will then wheel out a name from a previous encounter (Ed Sheeran guitar)… the man is no more a bookworm that I'm an astronaut..

Hyperbollix

What I find funny is if he wrote the London diary from the perspective of a 50 year old man, catapulted out of his comfortable life and into the unknown, and admitted to some weakness and doubt around that, he would garner a lot more support. I could see him writing about taking a long train journey across England and asking himself……."Why am I here… Am I mad… Have I made a mistake?" etc and it would make for much more compelling reading.

Instead he gives us a weekly celebrity gossip column about who is has seen and who he wishes he'd bump into in London. It would be tragic if it were a 30 year old at this, but to see someone of Tubs vintage at it is just ridiculous.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122062472#Comment_122062472

But then he'd have to be honest and internalise why he's in London. But no, it's full steam ahead with fingers firmly in ears, youtube comments switched off, singing lalalalalalala…….

Hyperbollix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122062624#Comment_122062624

The internet and all it's trappings are a real killer for Tubs. So much of new media is based on having a real talent, getting eyeballs on your content because it's actually worthwhile and allowing your audience to have a voice and contribute feedback.

Tubs would have been much more comfortable operating in the old world where there was 2 channels, everyone had to watch your rubbish because they had no other choice and they had no voice or input on proceedings. All you had to do was put out your pet projects and collect a vast salary. As he would admit himself, he was born in the wrong age.

One of the reasons I knew he was a wrong'un long ago was his decision to close his Twitter account. Not that theres anything wrong with avoiding social media, plenty of people I admire as commentators avoid it like the plague, but they are generally people that have no truck with celebrity, or getting likes or plastering their face onto everything they can in order to promote themselves. But that's exactly who Tubs is, so it was frankly odd when he removed himself of it. But when you realize he doesn't want any feedback and certainly has no interest in communicating with the plebs who he sees as below him, then it makes perfect sense. He just wants one way traffic. Like state propaganda.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122062716#Comment_122062716

My theory on how he got so far and got paid so much is very much to do with the development of the internet. For a whole generation the internet was the new frontier and from the 90s onwards people who would otherwise continued into the traditional media forms started getting pulled towards this new horizon.

When he was announced as the Late Late Show host I hadn't had a TV for the previous five years. I rarely listened to any of the RTE radio stations as I had cds with hours worth of mp3 files. I even had a minidisc before ipod became ubiquitous, but in all that time I hadn't heard of Ryan Tubridy.

The only time I saw TV was when I called in to check on my aging parents and I remember one night seeing this new presenter of the LLS and thinking it extremely odd that the set was some generic NY skyline that aped some US show; I think someone mentioned that his whole manner is an imitation of some US TV host.

And then I'm gone from Ireland for the next decade. It wasn't until this thread that I learned he was getting paid over 700k years after unemployment had hit 15%. That fact floored me.

I reckon RTE got away with such grandiose self enrichment is because their audience had diverged between the economically active who were more likely to be tech aware but tuned out from RTE, and then those who continued on as passive receivers on broadcast media.

Tubridy's rise was probably into the vacuum left behind by those mostly preoccupied by the internet, and the passive traditional listener wouldn't know the media landscape was changing. All the while RTE could reward itself for servicing the latter without blowback from the former, until we were all locked up together again during the pandemic.

As smartphones became ubiquitous the gap between early internet adaptors and everyone else closed and now those like Tubs who cling on to the idea of one way broadcasting to people can't handle instantaneous reaction which the internet allows.

Edit to add, all this does is highlight the divergence between a national broadcaster and a national media platform. By not changing with the tech RTE has drifted into a cul de sac of national babysitter, when in reality we need a dedicated active online staffed fact checking service for the public to consult to counter the privately owned media platforms like FB and X who profit off stoking social fragmentation.

HildaOgdenx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122062472#Comment_122062472

Very true.

But he can't admit that truth even to himself. And to think that but for his greed, his feet would still be firmly under the desk in RTE. Getting paid a king's ransom for a very much less than mediocre effort at his job.

I am still gobsmacked at the fact that he was being offered the job back albeit at a reduced (but still ridiculous) salary. I hadn't much faith in Bakhurst before that but I had even less after it.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122062472#Comment_122062472

It reeks of ManChild.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122054512#Comment_122054512

In real terms and if it an annual contract, it would take that long. The first indications will be with the next two JNLR and RAJAR figures. The podcast, especially if it becomes a version of the RTE canteen for HarperCollins authors is an interesting move because it seems to be trying to hold on to some of the more technologically literate members of his RTE audience. He's no Joe Rogan or Vogue Williams.The viewer figures on Youtube for his podcast episodes are interesting (approximately 300 views a day) in that they are not JNLR or RAJAR dependent.

Regards…jmcc

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122054446#Comment_122054446

The stations get the 3 month trading figures, not that they are allowed release them.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122064257#Comment_122064257

I though the rule was that the broadcaster can release any information about their own station but not about others, and that if they are to compare one to another they must use the figures released by the other broadcaster not information that is contained in the JNLR. Didn't 2fm get into trouble for this a few years ago?

The JNLRs only make their broadcaster look good and are issued large via press release from the broadcasters themselves.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122064860#Comment_122064860

Trading figures are restricted for all uses. Otherwise you can release stuff that isn't in the public report. Direct comparisons that are accurate are allowed.

You're more likely to find number comparisons in advertising presentations than public stuff